The Maryland Reparations Commission has been enacted into law

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Anonymous wrote:Life is much better when you take ownership of your decisions, rather than viewing yourself as a victim whose poor decisions are someone else's fault.

I've made some good decisions in my life, and some bad ones, and I try to own those decisions and learn from them. I inherited nothing and have had a 40+ hour/week job every day of my adult life.

I think most Americans are like me, including most Black Americans, and are repulsed by the idea that someone would need to give them money to make up for their own failures in life.

Great. Americans should take some accountability for their decisions, including the extremely destructive racist policies in recent history that harmed people living today.

It is truly repulsive that some people are trying to pretend like these weren’t massive failures.

Own those failures, Americans.

I think that PP was talking about individual accountability but I am sure you know nothing about that.

Exactly. There is instead likely plenty of evidence that any given claimant's present day status is directly traceable to choices and decisions they made themselves, not to the actions of anyone else. Disavowing responsibility for one's choices and casting blame on ancient history is both reprehensible and futile.

Exactly! Black Americans today are far less likely than white Americans to have generational wealth (of any amount) due to their extremely poor historical choices of what jobs to take, which neighborhoods to purchase homes in, where to send their children to school… oh wait, maybe those weren’t actually choices due to the extremely racist policies in place?

Moron.

We had 50 years of affirmative action and DEI programs to remedy this. Sorry if you didn't take advantage. While you may have been making poor life choices, plenty of Black Americans were using affirmative action to help them get into prestigious private schools and prestigious colleges, get scholarships, get prestigious jobs at law firms and investment banks, and get tons of other preferential treatment in all aspects of admissions and hiring. They also were taking advantage of tons of programs designed to help increase Black homeownership, such as down payment assistance and better loan terms. They also received preference for many government contracts at both the federal and state level.

“Poor life choices”?

More racist drivel from the ignorant fvks.

Calling people "racist" is a sign that you have no argument. Just look around you -- there are Black Americans everywhere who have taken advantage of the tremendous opportunities that this country has given them, and they are leaders in every field imaginable. I think most people think this is great, but then when they're called racist, they can't understand how a purportedly racist country could allow Black Americans to ascend to such great heights. They look at their successful Black neighbors, Black politicians, Black CEOs, Black doctors, Black lawyers, Black athletes, Black entertainers -- and yet they're told that everyone is still racist.

Blaming inequities built on generations of racist laws/policies on “poor life choices” is straight up racist AF.

Not everyone is racist. Just you. And the other POSs who like to pretend like nothing happened.

Education is so important.

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This is why MAGA wants to remove DEI from schools. They want to pretend like centuries of racist laws and policies never existed.

Reading comprehension is so important.

Right, literally no one said “everyone is still racist.”

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Anonymous wrote:The Maryland Reparations Commission has been enacted into law. Let’s clarify what the Civil Rights movement and the the 1968 Civil Rights Act aimed for:

- it was a promise to future generations that our government would never again prioritize one race over another.

This bill (now a Maryland law) undermines the unifying purpose of the Civil Rights movement.

It's hard to be "unified" when a major group in the US is still feeling the lingering effects of systemic racism.

If you don't want to prioritize one race over another, then everyone should dump ALL of their wealth together and then split it evenly across everyone in the US. We can start over so that white people aren't continued to be prioritized over everyone else - we all start off equal.

You do realize the wealthiest racial group in the US isn't white, don't you?

Uhm what? Where did you come up with that tid bit?

That’s actually true, Indians do quite well. you might want to quit while you’re ahead pp.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Life is much better when you take ownership of your decisions[/b], rather than viewing yourself as a victim whose poor decisions are someone else's fault.

I've made some good decisions in my life, and some bad ones, and I try to own those decisions and learn from them. I inherited nothing and have had a 40+ hour/week job every day of my adult life.

I think most Americans are like me, including most Black Americans, and are repulsed by the idea that someone would need to give them money to make up for their own failures in life.[/quote]


Great. Americans should take some accountability for their decisions, including the extremely destructive racist policies in recent history that harmed people living today.

It is truly repulsive that some people are trying to pretend like these weren’t massive failures.

Own those failures, Americans.

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I think that PP was talking about individual accountability but I am sure you know nothing about that. [/quote]

Exactly. There is instead likely plenty of evidence that any given claimant's present day status is directly traceable to choices and decisions they made themselves, not to the actions of anyone else. Disavowing responsibility for one's choices and casting blame on ancient history is both reprehensible and futile. [/quote]

Exactly! Black Americans today are far less likely than white Americans to have generational wealth (of any amount) due to their extremely poor historical [b]choices[/b] of what jobs to take, which neighborhoods to purchase homes in, where to send their children to school… oh wait, maybe those weren’t actually choices due to the extremely racist policies in place?

Moron.[/quote]

We had 50 years of affirmative action and DEI programs to remedy this. Sorry if you didn't take advantage. While you may have been making poor life choices, plenty of Black Americans were using affirmative action to help them get into prestigious private schools and prestigious colleges, get scholarships, get prestigious jobs at law firms and investment banks, and get tons of other preferential treatment in all aspects of admissions and hiring. They also were taking advantage of tons of programs designed to help increase Black homeownership, such as down payment assistance and better loan terms. They also received preference for many government contracts at both the federal and state level.[/quote]

“Poor life choices”?

More racist drivel from the ignorant fvks.
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Calling people "racist" is a sign that you have no argument. Just look around you -- there are Black Americans everywhere who have taken advantage of the tremendous opportunities that this country has given them, and they are leaders in every field imaginable. I think most people think this is great, but then when they're called racist, they can't understand how a purportedly racist country could allow Black Americans to ascend to such great heights. They look at their successful Black neighbors, Black politicians, Black CEOs, Black doctors, Black lawyers, Black athletes, Black entertainers -- and yet they're told that everyone is still racist. [/quote]

Blaming inequities built on generations of racist laws/policies on “poor life choices” is straight up racist AF.

Not everyone is racist.[b] Just you. And the other POSs who like to pretend like nothing happened.[/b]
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Education is so important. [/quote]

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This is why MAGA wants to remove DEI from schools. They want to pretend like centuries of racist laws and policies never existed.
[/quote] How many more years of DEI do you want 10, 20, 30, 50, 100 years, what is it going to take ?

Or what is the dollar figure per person to make it right ? 1M, 5M, 10M, 50M ?
It’s all monopoly money at this point anyway.

Some of us just want to put real dollars behind this and bring it to a close. But if you accept the settlement, you can’t keep complaining.

Please come with specifics and why.

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Until the racist a-holes die or STFU.

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Properly done, affirmative action and DEI aren't about people of color. They are about opening the eyes and minds of white hiring managers to cast a wider, more objective net when hiring. Throughout the entire process. Thinking up better ways to recruit, new places to reach with recruiting, and so on.

Affirmative action and DEI fail when the white hiring managers fail. They need to recruit for diversity and hire for excellence. Don't be lazy.

And worse, some white hiring managers purposefully hire people of color who are subpar, so that those white hiring managers and their buddies can fulfill their confirmation bias.

Less common, but still real: it can also fail when Black hiring managers hire Black friends who are subpar. I realize white people have done this forever. But there is more at stake here. Promoting someone of color who isn't very capable just plays into many white people's bias.

I've been in the hiring arena for more than 2 decades and I've seen these patterns repeatedly.

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Anonymous wrote:Until the racist a-holes die or STFU.

Someone didn't spend much time learning how to create a persuasive argument for anything, apparently.

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Anonymous wrote:Properly done, affirmative action and DEI aren't about people of color. They are about opening the eyes and minds of white hiring managers to cast a wider, more objective net when hiring. Throughout the entire process. Thinking up better ways to recruit, new places to reach with recruiting, and so on.

Affirmative action and DEI fail when the white hiring managers fail. They need to recruit for diversity and hire for excellence. Don't be lazy.

And worse, some white hiring managers purposefully hire people of color who are subpar, so that those white hiring managers and their buddies can fulfill their confirmation bias.

Less common, but still real: it can also fail when Black hiring managers hire Black friends who are subpar. I realize white people have done this forever. But there is more at stake here. Promoting someone of color who isn't very capable just plays into many white people's bias.

I've been in the hiring arena for more than 2 decades and I've seen these patterns repeatedly.

Sounds like you're saying that hiring the most qualified person, without regard to race, is the best way to optimize workforce composition. Few would argue with you, until you presume that "diversity" necessarily achieves that result. Ideally, diversity is an incidental characteristic of the most effective and efficient workforce; if diversity does not turn out to be present in such a population, then so be it. Making diversity an end in itself is why unqualified people end up in roles where they perform poorly, doing their employers no good.

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Anonymous wrote:Properly done, affirmative action and DEI aren't about people of color. They are about opening the eyes and minds of white hiring managers to cast a wider, more objective net when hiring. Throughout the entire process. Thinking up better ways to recruit, new places to reach with recruiting, and so on.

Affirmative action and DEI fail when the white hiring managers fail. They need to recruit for diversity and hire for excellence. Don't be lazy.

And worse, some white hiring managers purposefully hire people of color who are subpar, so that those white hiring managers and their buddies can fulfill their confirmation bias.

Less common, but still real: it can also fail when Black hiring managers hire Black friends who are subpar. I realize white people have done this forever. But there is more at stake here. Promoting someone of color who isn't very capable just plays into many white people's bias.

I've been in the hiring arena for more than 2 decades and I've seen these patterns repeatedly.

Diversity is more than the color of your skin, but that's the metric everyone is using.

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Anonymous wrote:Properly done, affirmative action and DEI aren't about people of color. They are about opening the eyes and minds of white hiring managers to cast a wider, more objective net when hiring. Throughout the entire process. Thinking up better ways to recruit, new places to reach with recruiting, and so on.

Affirmative action and DEI fail when the white hiring managers fail. They need to recruit for diversity and hire for excellence. Don't be lazy.

And worse, some white hiring managers purposefully hire people of color who are subpar, so that those white hiring managers and their buddies can fulfill their confirmation bias.

Less common, but still real: it can also fail when Black hiring managers hire Black friends who are subpar. I realize white people have done this forever. But there is more at stake here. Promoting someone of color who isn't very capable just plays into many white people's bias.

I've been in the hiring arena for more than 2 decades and I've seen these patterns repeatedly.

Diversity is more than the color of your skin, but that's the metric everyone is using.

The notion of "diversity" as necessarily good, desirable, and beneficial is itself flawed with further exposition. Skin color is irrelevant; different skin colors add nothing to anything and are merely incidental. You certainly don't want diverse levels of intellect or professional skill; who benefits from employing inferior talent? You don't want diverse social skills, when those would include people who can't get along with others. You don't want a diverse view of hard work, such that part of your employee population thinks that working hard is not for them.

Diversity as a goal is inherently a foolish objective. What employers should want is the most effective and efficient workforce, full stop. What that turns out to look like is irrelevant; performance is the only benchmark any rational employer should look to.

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Anonymous wrote:How about Native Americans?

Get your own bill.

WTF?

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Anonymous wrote:Properly done, affirmative action and DEI aren't about people of color. They are about opening the eyes and minds of white hiring managers to cast a wider, more objective net when hiring. Throughout the entire process. Thinking up better ways to recruit, new places to reach with recruiting, and so on.

Affirmative action and DEI fail when the white hiring managers fail. They need to recruit for diversity and hire for excellence. Don't be lazy.

And worse, some white hiring managers purposefully hire people of color who are subpar, so that those white hiring managers and their buddies can fulfill their confirmation bias.

Less common, but still real: it can also fail when Black hiring managers hire Black friends who are subpar. I realize white people have done this forever. But there is more at stake here. Promoting someone of color who isn't very capable just plays into many white people's bias.

I've been in the hiring arena for more than 2 decades and I've seen these patterns repeatedly.

Diversity is more than the color of your skin, but that's the metric everyone is using.

False.

For example: the primary beneficiaries of the MAGA-maligned Michigan DEI budget were poor white kids from rural areas.

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Anonymous wrote:Until the racist a-holes die or STFU.

Someone didn't spend much time learning how to create a persuasive argument for anything, apparently.

Why would I waste any time on racist POSs bleating on about “personal choices”?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Properly done, affirmative action and DEI aren't about people of color. They are about opening the eyes and minds of white hiring managers to cast a wider, more objective net when hiring. Throughout the entire process. Thinking up better ways to recruit, new places to reach with recruiting, and so on.

Affirmative action and DEI fail when the white hiring managers fail. They need to recruit for diversity and hire for excellence. Don't be lazy.

And worse, some white hiring managers purposefully hire people of color who are subpar, so that those white hiring managers and their buddies can fulfill their confirmation bias.

Less common, but still real: it can also fail when Black hiring managers hire Black friends who are subpar. I realize white people have done this forever. But there is more at stake here. Promoting someone of color who isn't very capable just plays into many white people's bias.

I've been in the hiring arena for more than 2 decades and I've seen these patterns repeatedly.

Diversity is more than the color of your skin, but that's the metric everyone is using.

False.

For example: the primary beneficiaries of the MAGA-maligned Michigan DEI budget were poor white kids from rural areas.

Are you suggesting Maryland is considering reparations for these rural white kids in Michigan?

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Another expensives social progran in Maryland that taxpayers will have to pay for. Which is why people move to VA. Fewer taxes, better public schools, many more public school options. MD could have built a few more universities to bring it up to par with VA, but no ….. Or MD could have finally renovated the American Legion Bridge, but no .

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Anonymous wrote:Another expensives social progran in Maryland that taxpayers will have to pay for. Which is why people move to VA. Fewer taxes, better public schools, many more public school options. MD could have built a few more universities to bring it up to par with VA, but no ….. Or MD could have finally renovated the American Legion Bridge, but no .

It's all about Big Government, funded by ever increasing taxes, until you run out of people to tax. All these public giveaway programs cost money, which advocates claim will be paid for by "the rich", certainly not by themselves, who hare happy to be beneficiaries, but never contributors. This woke program is based on that same playbook - transfer wealth from the deserving to the undeserving so the latter need not take any responsibility for their own welfare.