How does HB Woodlawn lottery work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

Condolences when you don’t win, hopefully your neighborhood schools are ok. Its too bad you couldn’t trust the lottery to be fair.

And are naive enough to think us advocating for more transparency and fairness of a wildly inequitable program are paranoid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

Condolences when you don’t win, hopefully your neighborhood schools are ok. Its too bad you couldn’t trust the lottery to be fair.

And are naive enough to think us advocating for more transparency and fairness of a wildly inequitable program are paranoid.

Yes. I find your approach wildly self serving and paranoid. Trust the process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

Condolences when you don’t win, hopefully your neighborhood schools are ok. Its too bad you couldn’t trust the lottery to be fair.

And are naive enough to think us advocating for more transparency and fairness of a wildly inequitable program are paranoid.

Yes. I find your approach wildly self serving and paranoid. Trust the process.

There’s no reason to think it’s rigged. And I don’t think we have to know what our numbers are to trust that they’re being honest. It’s probably just to keep folks from calling constantly. I can’t believe it’s going to be aired live. I’d rather just get a notice in the mail. It’s not going to devastate us if the kid doesn’t get in, but it’s a great opportunity if they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

Condolences when you don’t win, hopefully your neighborhood schools are ok. Its too bad you couldn’t trust the lottery to be fair.

And are naive enough to think us advocating for more transparency and fairness of a wildly inequitable program are paranoid.

Yes. I find your approach wildly self serving and paranoid. Trust the process.

There’s no reason to think it’s rigged. And I don’t think we have to know what our numbers are to trust that they’re being honest. It’s probably just to keep folks from calling constantly. I can’t believe it’s going to be aired live. I’d rather just get a notice in the mail. It’s not going to devastate us if the kid doesn’t get in, but it’s a great opportunity if they do.

You live here long enough, you see who is admitted, the siblings admitted (i ran the numbers, the odds are 1% for most schools for that happening). It should be a bigger school for equality with other schools, but either way it should be transparent.

How would having a number to watch for in the lottery spur people to call more?

[Anonymous]

When is lottery announced?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

Condolences when you don’t win, hopefully your neighborhood schools are ok. Its too bad you couldn’t trust the lottery to be fair.

And are naive enough to think us advocating for more transparency and fairness of a wildly inequitable program are paranoid.

Yes. I find your approach wildly self serving and paranoid. Trust the process.

There’s no reason to think it’s rigged. And I don’t think we have to know what our numbers are to trust that they’re being honest. It’s probably just to keep folks from calling constantly. I can’t believe it’s going to be aired live. I’d rather just get a notice in the mail. It’s not going to devastate us if the kid doesn’t get in, but it’s a great opportunity if they do.

You live here long enough, you see who is admitted, the siblings admitted (i ran the numbers, the odds are 1% for most schools for that happening). It should be a bigger school for equality with other schools, but either way it should be transparent.

How would having a number to watch for in the lottery spur people to call more?

So you think it's a conspiracy because some siblings are admitted? I do know some families with more than one kid at HB. But I know many many more families with one kid at HB and others at the other schools.

Also, your methodology is flawed. If a family has one kid already at HB, they are more likely to apply for their younger kid. And they keep trying and apply over and over. And they are also more likely to accept a spot mid year and uproot their kid. Other families may just apply once for 6th and then move on.

In my experience if a family keeps applying year after year, they actually have a pretty good shot of eventually getting their kid into HB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

Condolences when you don’t win, hopefully your neighborhood schools are ok. Its too bad you couldn’t trust the lottery to be fair.

And are naive enough to think us advocating for more transparency and fairness of a wildly inequitable program are paranoid.

Yes. I find your approach wildly self serving and paranoid. Trust the process.

There’s no reason to think it’s rigged. And I don’t think we have to know what our numbers are to trust that they’re being honest. It’s probably just to keep folks from calling constantly. I can’t believe it’s going to be aired live. I’d rather just get a notice in the mail. It’s not going to devastate us if the kid doesn’t get in, but it’s a great opportunity if they do.

You live here long enough, you see who is admitted, the siblings admitted (i ran the numbers, the odds are 1% for most schools for that happening). It should be a bigger school for equality with other schools, but either way it should be transparent.

How would having a number to watch for in the lottery spur people to call more?

So you think it's a conspiracy because some siblings are admitted? I do know some families with more than one kid at HB. But I know many many more families with one kid at HB and others at the other schools.

Also, your methodology is flawed. If a family has one kid already at HB, they are more likely to apply for their younger kid. And they keep trying and apply over and over. And they are also more likely to accept a spot mid year and uproot their kid. Other families may just apply once for 6th and then move on.

In my experience if a family keeps applying year after year, they actually have a pretty good shot of eventually getting their kid into HB.

I know several families at HBW. All entered either 6th or 9th, not your edge case. Try again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

Condolences when you don’t win, hopefully your neighborhood schools are ok. Its too bad you couldn’t trust the lottery to be fair.

And are naive enough to think us advocating for more transparency and fairness of a wildly inequitable program are paranoid.

Yes. I find your approach wildly self serving and paranoid. Trust the process.

There’s no reason to think it’s rigged. And I don’t think we have to know what our numbers are to trust that they’re being honest. It’s probably just to keep folks from calling constantly. I can’t believe it’s going to be aired live. I’d rather just get a notice in the mail. It’s not going to devastate us if the kid doesn’t get in, but it’s a great opportunity if they do.

You live here long enough, you see who is admitted, the siblings admitted (i ran the numbers, the odds are 1% for most schools for that happening). It should be a bigger school for equality with other schools, but either way it should be transparent.

How would having a number to watch for in the lottery spur people to call more?

So you think it's a conspiracy because some siblings are admitted? I do know some families with more than one kid at HB. But I know many many more families with one kid at HB and others at the other schools.

Also, your methodology is flawed. If a family has one kid already at HB, they are more likely to apply for their younger kid. And they keep trying and apply over and over. And they are also more likely to accept a spot mid year and uproot their kid. Other families may just apply once for 6th and then move on.

In my experience if a family keeps applying year after year, they actually have a pretty good shot of eventually getting their kid into HB.

I know several families at HBW. All entered either 6th or 9th, not your edge case. Try again.

We had two kids at H-B, one entered and got off the wait list after three years (this is when they didn't restart it every year, there was one continuous waitlist for middle school and one for high school). The other one we entered for 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th and they got in for 9th. I don't know if anyone was actually chosen from the lottery for 7th and 8th but they did let you apply. But they were also there several years apart, I don't know if people even knew they were siblings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

Condolences when you don’t win, hopefully your neighborhood schools are ok. Its too bad you couldn’t trust the lottery to be fair.

And are naive enough to think us advocating for more transparency and fairness of a wildly inequitable program are paranoid.

Yes. I find your approach wildly self serving and paranoid. Trust the process.

There’s no reason to think it’s rigged. And I don’t think we have to know what our numbers are to trust that they’re being honest. It’s probably just to keep folks from calling constantly. I can’t believe it’s going to be aired live. I’d rather just get a notice in the mail. It’s not going to devastate us if the kid doesn’t get in, but it’s a great opportunity if they do.

You live here long enough, you see who is admitted, the siblings admitted (i ran the numbers, the odds are 1% for most schools for that happening). It should be a bigger school for equality with other schools, but either way it should be transparent.

How would having a number to watch for in the lottery spur people to call more?

So you think it's a conspiracy because some siblings are admitted? I do know some families with more than one kid at HB. But I know many many more families with one kid at HB and others at the other schools.

Also, your methodology is flawed. If a family has one kid already at HB, they are more likely to apply for their younger kid. And they keep trying and apply over and over. And they are also more likely to accept a spot mid year and uproot their kid. Other families may just apply once for 6th and then move on.

In my experience if a family keeps applying year after year, they actually have a pretty good shot of eventually getting their kid into HB.

I know several families at HBW. All entered either 6th or 9th, not your edge case. Try again.

The problem is that your own experience is not the be it and end all. In your world, what you can see personally seems to convince you. You don't have access to the actual data on sibling admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is wildly paranoid.

We are in lottery for first time this year. Know it’s a very long shot, fingers crossed though. I wish there were more choices for middle school and more programs like HB available.

Best of luck to all

Condolences when you don’t win, hopefully your neighborhood schools are ok. Its too bad you couldn’t trust the lottery to be fair.

And are naive enough to think us advocating for more transparency and fairness of a wildly inequitable program are paranoid.

Yes. I find your approach wildly self serving and paranoid. Trust the process.

There’s no reason to think it’s rigged. And I don’t think we have to know what our numbers are to trust that they’re being honest. It’s probably just to keep folks from calling constantly. I can’t believe it’s going to be aired live. I’d rather just get a notice in the mail. It’s not going to devastate us if the kid doesn’t get in, but it’s a great opportunity if they do.

You live here long enough, you see who is admitted, the siblings admitted (i ran the numbers, the odds are 1% for most schools for that happening). It should be a bigger school for equality with other schools, but either way it should be transparent.

How would having a number to watch for in the lottery spur people to call more?

So you think it's a conspiracy because some siblings are admitted? I do know some families with more than one kid at HB. But I know many many more families with one kid at HB and others at the other schools.

Also, your methodology is flawed. If a family has one kid already at HB, they are more likely to apply for their younger kid. And they keep trying and apply over and over. And they are also more likely to accept a spot mid year and uproot their kid. Other families may just apply once for 6th and then move on.

In my experience if a family keeps applying year after year, they actually have a pretty good shot of eventually getting their kid into HB.

I know several families at HBW. All entered either 6th or 9th, not your edge case. Try again.

it sounds like you don't know too many hb families and you also may not know the circumstances of their admission. i can think of four hb families just off the top of my head with kids who got in on off years. i also know families where one sibling got in in middle school, the other one did not, and then the sibling later got in via the 9th grade lottery.

[Anonymous]

To all those applying in the lottery, good luck! HB is a very nice place to go to school. It does have its pro's and con's so happy to answer questions people may have. I will say the biggest con is dealing with the trolls who think there is some sort of conspiracy theory and are bitter because their own kid didn't get in!

I would love to see APS open more programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

Are admin transfers ever for IEP or 504 kids? Don’t mean to derail…and def not interested in legal actions. Mostly curious as it is something we would like to keep in mind for a few years down the road

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You do know your number. Atop
Pushing lies. Just because your kid didn’t get in doesn’t mean it’s rigged. Very maga!

Uh. No.

No one knows their number prior to “selection”. Been through the hb scam 10 times now across my kids.

It is a complete scam. Admin transfers a granted all the time when APS sees they are going to be sued for one reason or another.

Just costs about 20k in legal fees and takes a year or two but when they are threatened with a real case they cave. They do not want their precious “lottery” system compromised when a student who needs the smaller classes has a case.

You have no idea what you are talking about. If they are doing an admin transfer (and no those do not happen all the time), they could just do it. It would not go through the lottery.

Are admin transfers ever for IEP or 504 kids? Don’t mean to derail…and def not interested in legal actions. Mostly curious as it is something we would like to keep in mind for a few years down the road

They are exceedingly rare and only for very extreme circumstances. Don't believe any trolls who tell you they happen all the time. They don't.