DC's School Report Cards are up. Any surprises?

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Anonymous wrote:Banneker and School Without Walls are the top high schools. Lots of DCPS elementary schools at the top of the ratings. For the charters, Latin, Friendship and Center City have campuses in the top.

The official OSSE site is here https://schoolreportcard.dc.gov/home.
It may be easier to navigate the information on the EmpowerK12 site https://www.empowerk12.org/dc-accountability-scores-dashboard.

Looks like BASIS and Walls have the best numbers. However, Basis is 100% lottery and Walls selects its students.

Is BASIS really a lottery if they kick kids out who don’t pass their many tests? Walls can’t do that…

Basis does not kick out kids, they just don't pass them unless they actually pass. I haven't heard of anyone not passing in high school at Basis. I have also not heard of Walls accepting any kids who aren't passing in middle school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Banneker and School Without Walls are the top high schools. Lots of DCPS elementary schools at the top of the ratings. For the charters, Latin, Friendship and Center City have campuses in the top.

The official OSSE site is here https://schoolreportcard.dc.gov/home.
It may be easier to navigate the information on the EmpowerK12 site https://www.empowerk12.org/dc-accountability-scores-dashboard.

Looks like BASIS and Walls have the best numbers. However, Basis is 100% lottery and Walls selects its students.

Is BASIS really a lottery if they kick kids out who don’t pass their many tests? Walls can’t do that…

Basis does not kick out kids, they just don't pass them unless they actually pass. I haven't heard of anyone not passing in high school at Basis. I have also not heard of Walls accepting any kids who aren't passing in middle school.

Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

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Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

Can you give an example? What do you mean, "do try and can"? I've worked in charter schools for 13 years and we definitely know of other schools with reputations for "counseling" a family out (e.g., schools may not be able to provide the programming or environment for a student with significant needs), but no charter can just push a family out.

DCPS has resources that charters don't, with specialized programs concentrated at certain campuses. It's unfair to compare all charters to DCPS in this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Banneker and School Without Walls are the top high schools. Lots of DCPS elementary schools at the top of the ratings. For the charters, Latin, Friendship and Center City have campuses in the top.

The official OSSE site is here https://schoolreportcard.dc.gov/home.
It may be easier to navigate the information on the EmpowerK12 site https://www.empowerk12.org/dc-accountability-scores-dashboard.

Looks like BASIS and Walls have the best numbers. However, Basis is 100% lottery and Walls selects its students.

Is BASIS really a lottery if they kick kids out who don’t pass their many tests? Walls can’t do that…

Basis does not kick out kids, they just don't pass them unless they actually pass. I haven't heard of anyone not passing in high school at Basis. I have also not heard of Walls accepting any kids who aren't passing in middle school.

lol.

Walls only accepts straight A kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Banneker and School Without Walls are the top high schools. Lots of DCPS elementary schools at the top of the ratings. For the charters, Latin, Friendship and Center City have campuses in the top.

The official OSSE site is here https://schoolreportcard.dc.gov/home.
It may be easier to navigate the information on the EmpowerK12 site https://www.empowerk12.org/dc-accountability-scores-dashboard.

Looks like BASIS and Walls have the best numbers. However, Basis is 100% lottery and Walls selects its students.

Is BASIS really a lottery if they kick kids out who don’t pass their many tests? Walls can’t do that…

Basis does not kick out kids, they just don't pass them unless they actually pass. I haven't heard of anyone not passing in high school at Basis. I have also not heard of Walls accepting any kids who aren't passing in middle school.

Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

DCPS doesn't kick out of boundary kids out? Send them back to their home schools? Because there is a lot of movement between DCPS schools throughout the year and most of it is North to South and West to East.

[Anonymous]

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Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

Can you give an example? What do you mean, "do try and can"? I've worked in charter schools for 13 years and we definitely know of other schools with reputations for "counseling" a family out (e.g., schools may not be able to provide the programming or environment for a student with significant needs), but no charter can just push a family out.

DCPS has resources that charters don't, with specialized programs concentrated at certain campuses. It's unfair to compare all charters to DCPS in this way.

The DC government gives a lot more money to DCPS schools than to charter schools, which seems pretty shitty to me. We're penalizing children, and hurting their education, because their parents decided to send them to a charter school? That's a pretty lousy policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

Can you give an example? What do you mean, "do try and can"? I've worked in charter schools for 13 years and we definitely know of other schools with reputations for "counseling" a family out (e.g., schools may not be able to provide the programming or environment for a student with significant needs), but no charter can just push a family out.

DCPS has resources that charters don't, with specialized programs concentrated at certain campuses. It's unfair to compare all charters to DCPS in this way.

The DC government gives a lot more money to DCPS schools than to charter schools, which seems pretty shitty to me. We're penalizing children, and hurting their education, because their parents decided to send them to a charter school? That's a pretty lousy policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Banneker and School Without Walls are the top high schools. Lots of DCPS elementary schools at the top of the ratings. For the charters, Latin, Friendship and Center City have campuses in the top.

The official OSSE site is here https://schoolreportcard.dc.gov/home.
It may be easier to navigate the information on the EmpowerK12 site https://www.empowerk12.org/dc-accountability-scores-dashboard.

Looks like BASIS and Walls have the best numbers. However, Basis is 100% lottery and Walls selects its students.

Is BASIS really a lottery if they kick kids out who don’t pass their many tests? Walls can’t do that…

Basis does not kick out kids, they just don't pass them unless they actually pass. I haven't heard of anyone not passing in high school at Basis. I have also not heard of Walls accepting any kids who aren't passing in middle school.

Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

DCPS doesn't kick out of boundary kids out? Send them back to their home schools? Because there is a lot of movement between DCPS schools throughout the year and most of it is North to South and West to East.

I believe technically they can, but seldom do.

It's a mistake to assume all movement is involuntary. It's more like if someone wants to change mid-year, their IB might be their best and most convenient option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

Can you give an example? What do you mean, "do try and can"? I've worked in charter schools for 13 years and we definitely know of other schools with reputations for "counseling" a family out (e.g., schools may not be able to provide the programming or environment for a student with significant needs), but no charter can just push a family out.

DCPS has resources that charters don't, with specialized programs concentrated at certain campuses. It's unfair to compare all charters to DCPS in this way.

The DC government gives a lot more money to DCPS schools than to charter schools, which seems pretty shitty to me. We're penalizing children, and hurting their education, because their parents decided to send them to a charter school? That's a pretty lousy policy.

Hon, there was a whole litigation about the funding formula. Read up before you opine. It's a very complicated issue.

Charter schools can have specialized programs, with funding accordingly, they just mostly choose not to. St. Coletta is a charter, so is Bridges, so is SEED. And I believe KIPP operates some self-contained. So maybe read up before posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

Can you give an example? What do you mean, "do try and can"? I've worked in charter schools for 13 years and we definitely know of other schools with reputations for "counseling" a family out (e.g., schools may not be able to provide the programming or environment for a student with significant needs), but no charter can just push a family out.

DCPS has resources that charters don't, with specialized programs concentrated at certain campuses. It's unfair to compare all charters to DCPS in this way.

The DC government gives a lot more money to DCPS schools than to charter schools, which seems pretty shitty to me. We're penalizing children, and hurting their education, because their parents decided to send them to a charter school? That's a pretty lousy policy.

Hon, there was a whole litigation about the funding formula. Read up before you opine. It's a very complicated issue.

Charter schools can have specialized programs, with funding accordingly, they just mostly choose not to. St. Coletta is a charter, so is Bridges, so is SEED. And I believe KIPP operates some self-contained. So maybe read up before posting.

This. Charters want to have the same per pupil dollars as DCPS without providing the specialized services that DCPS provides. But that's not how that funding works. DCPS has higher per pupil spending because it's spending a lot of money to educate a small number of kids with very expensive educational needs, who don't go to charters because the charters have no infrastructure to support those kids. St. Colletta and SEED are the obvious exceptions to that and both have higher per pupil spending because they serve very high need populations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

Can you give an example? What do you mean, "do try and can"? I've worked in charter schools for 13 years and we definitely know of other schools with reputations for "counseling" a family out (e.g., schools may not be able to provide the programming or environment for a student with significant needs), but no charter can just push a family out.

DCPS has resources that charters don't, with specialized programs concentrated at certain campuses. It's unfair to compare all charters to DCPS in this way.

The DC government gives a lot more money to DCPS schools than to charter schools, which seems pretty shitty to me. We're penalizing children, and hurting their education, because their parents decided to send them to a charter school? That's a pretty lousy policy.

I remain baffled that governments give any money to charter schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

Can you give an example? What do you mean, "do try and can"? I've worked in charter schools for 13 years and we definitely know of other schools with reputations for "counseling" a family out (e.g., schools may not be able to provide the programming or environment for a student with significant needs), but no charter can just push a family out.

DCPS has resources that charters don't, with specialized programs concentrated at certain campuses. It's unfair to compare all charters to DCPS in this way.

The DC government gives a lot more money to DCPS schools than to charter schools, which seems pretty shitty to me. We're penalizing children, and hurting their education, because their parents decided to send them to a charter school? That's a pretty lousy policy.

Hon, there was a whole litigation about the funding formula. Read up before you opine. It's a very complicated issue.

Charter schools can have specialized programs, with funding accordingly, they just mostly choose not to. St. Coletta is a charter, so is Bridges, so is SEED. And I believe KIPP operates some self-contained. So maybe read up before posting.

This. Charters want to have the same per pupil dollars as DCPS without providing the specialized services that DCPS provides. But that's not how that funding works. DCPS has higher per pupil spending because it's spending a lot of money to educate a small number of kids with very expensive educational needs, who don't go to charters because the charters have no infrastructure to support those kids. St. Colletta and SEED are the obvious exceptions to that and both have higher per pupil spending because they serve very high need populations.

And as for SEED, well.... Ugh.

DCPS has to take all comers, all year. So they get money to allow for that. If charters wanted to agree to take a share of people who move into DC mid-year, maybe the funding system could change. But for now, DCPS deals with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

Can you give an example? What do you mean, "do try and can"? I've worked in charter schools for 13 years and we definitely know of other schools with reputations for "counseling" a family out (e.g., schools may not be able to provide the programming or environment for a student with significant needs), but no charter can just push a family out.

DCPS has resources that charters don't, with specialized programs concentrated at certain campuses. It's unfair to compare all charters to DCPS in this way.

The DC government gives a lot more money to DCPS schools than to charter schools, which seems pretty shitty to me. We're penalizing children, and hurting their education, because their parents decided to send them to a charter school? That's a pretty lousy policy.

I remain baffled that governments give any money to charter schools.

Almost half the public school kids in DC go to charters. People wouldn't send their kids to charters if they thought DCPS was a better option. It's a pretty profound rejection of DCPS by the public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

Can you give an example? What do you mean, "do try and can"? I've worked in charter schools for 13 years and we definitely know of other schools with reputations for "counseling" a family out (e.g., schools may not be able to provide the programming or environment for a student with significant needs), but no charter can just push a family out.

DCPS has resources that charters don't, with specialized programs concentrated at certain campuses. It's unfair to compare all charters to DCPS in this way.

The DC government gives a lot more money to DCPS schools than to charter schools, which seems pretty shitty to me. We're penalizing children, and hurting their education, because their parents decided to send them to a charter school? That's a pretty lousy policy.

I remain baffled that governments give any money to charter schools.

We have quite a few public high schools in this city where fewer than five percent of students are at grade level in math. Yay DCPS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Untrue, this is a funny little thing about charter schools. They do and can push families out after count day. It doesn’t always work but they do try and can, unlike DCPS.

Can you give an example? What do you mean, "do try and can"? I've worked in charter schools for 13 years and we definitely know of other schools with reputations for "counseling" a family out (e.g., schools may not be able to provide the programming or environment for a student with significant needs), but no charter can just push a family out.

DCPS has resources that charters don't, with specialized programs concentrated at certain campuses. It's unfair to compare all charters to DCPS in this way.

The DC government gives a lot more money to DCPS schools than to charter schools, which seems pretty shitty to me. We're penalizing children, and hurting their education, because their parents decided to send them to a charter school? That's a pretty lousy policy.

I remain baffled that governments give any money to charter schools.

Almost half the public school kids in DC go to charters. People wouldn't send their kids to charters if they thought DCPS was a better option. It's a pretty profound rejection of DCPS by the public.

This sums it up right here. The system is so bad that 1/2 the kids don’t even go public.

And before you say, well don’t fund charter, you can kiss your home equity and city services goodbye because charters are what is keeping families with optiins in the city, housing more stable, and paying taxes. Otherwise, they would all camp to the burbs.