How to fight this new anti-childcare winter weather approach?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes!!! We also have a in-school before/aftercare childcare provider that planned to open at their discretion but was forbidden by MCPS.
Our elementary school doesn’t open its doors until 9:05 so with a two hour delay that is 11:05 (with 11:25 start time). All out of “an abundance of caution” for a tiny part of this huge county.

OP (and I) are not asking for MCPS to FORCE before-school care to be open. We are asking them to ALLOW these businesses who operate within the building to use their own discretion about whether to open (I.e. on a two-hour delay from their normal hours) based on what they know about the safety and availability of their staff. Especially on the context of MCPS acknowledging that they are making decisions for a vast area and are often taking closure actions that are completely unnecessary in most of the county.

This also worked for years. This is a new policy. There was no disaster when the childcare companies and their employers figured it out.

There was still a lot of moaning and complaining from parents here when the businesses closed.

Are you talking about the pandemic when MCPS forced childcare providers to stay closed for 5 months while the state was begging child care providers to open for essential workers?

To be fair, it was initially Elrich that prevented child care operators from reopening, not MCPS. The county was threatening child care operators that attempted to reopen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.

That's a decision for their employers to make, not for MCPS to force upon private child care providers. In the past, some opened and some did not, based on local conditions and staffing capacity. It is ridiculous and offensive for MCPS to force this in a top down manner.

They aren’t “private childcare providers.” They operate under the auspices of the school district. You’re welcome to pay more and arrange daily transportation for your kid to ACTUAL private childcare providers offsite if you want different weather policies. 🤷‍♀️

Stop lying. They are private providers who rent space from MCPS.

So MCPS decides how/when the space will be available. Private providers using public buildings for their private businesses - and their customers - should understand this.

I would be annoyed at the change in policy from previous years. Why did they change it?

Because Thomas Taylor hates working moms

Nope. Just you insufferable c*nts

Taylor found the thread!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes!!! We also have a in-school before/aftercare childcare provider that planned to open at their discretion but was forbidden by MCPS.
Our elementary school doesn’t open its doors until 9:05 so with a two hour delay that is 11:05 (with 11:25 start time). All out of “an abundance of caution” for a tiny part of this huge county.

OP (and I) are not asking for MCPS to FORCE before-school care to be open. We are asking them to ALLOW these businesses who operate within the building to use their own discretion about whether to open (I.e. on a two-hour delay from their normal hours) based on what they know about the safety and availability of their staff. Especially on the context of MCPS acknowledging that they are making decisions for a vast area and are often taking closure actions that are completely unnecessary in most of the county.

This also worked for years. This is a new policy. There was no disaster when the childcare companies and their employers figured it out.

There was still a lot of moaning and complaining from parents here when the businesses closed.

Are you talking about the pandemic when MCPS forced childcare providers to stay closed for 5 months while the state was begging child care providers to open for essential workers?

To be fair, it was initially Elrich that prevented child care operators from reopening, not MCPS. The county was threatening child care operators that attempted to reopen.

No, it was MCPS that forced child care providers to stay closed for 5 months, stop rewriting history

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.

That's a decision for their employers to make, not for MCPS to force upon private child care providers. In the past, some opened and some did not, based on local conditions and staffing capacity. It is ridiculous and offensive for MCPS to force this in a top down manner.

They aren’t “private childcare providers.” They operate under the auspices of the school district. You’re welcome to pay more and arrange daily transportation for your kid to ACTUAL private childcare providers offsite if you want different weather policies. 🤷‍♀️

Stop lying. They are private providers who rent space from MCPS.

Mmkay. And MCPS does not have to let them use their space when they’ve deemed it unsafe to do so.

Tantrum harder.

They haven't deemed it unsafe. It's raining.

Is wasnt raining at 4:45 AM when they had to make the call. I love how everyone expects them to be able to predict the future but you are too irresponsible to predict how to handle your kids in this situation

It was warm enough at that time that it should have been clear to anyone with a basic understanding of science that we weren't going to have ice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.

That's a decision for their employers to make, not for MCPS to force upon private child care providers. In the past, some opened and some did not, based on local conditions and staffing capacity. It is ridiculous and offensive for MCPS to force this in a top down manner.

They aren’t “private childcare providers.” They operate under the auspices of the school district. You’re welcome to pay more and arrange daily transportation for your kid to ACTUAL private childcare providers offsite if you want different weather policies. 🤷‍♀️

Stop lying. They are private providers who rent space from MCPS.

So MCPS decides how/when the space will be available. Private providers using public buildings for their private businesses - and their customers - should understand this.

I would be annoyed at the change in policy from previous years. Why did they change it?

Because Thomas Taylor hates working moms

Nope. Just you insufferable c*nts

You deserve to spend your final years lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home

[Anonymous]

I wonder if building management etc negotiated that they don't need to come earlier either. Or MCPS decided it's too complicated and unfair to have building management come before teachers and students to support childcare programs. The whole thing is looney. It's raining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.

That's a decision for their employers to make, not for MCPS to force upon private child care providers. In the past, some opened and some did not, based on local conditions and staffing capacity. It is ridiculous and offensive for MCPS to force this in a top down manner.

They aren’t “private childcare providers.” They operate under the auspices of the school district. You’re welcome to pay more and arrange daily transportation for your kid to ACTUAL private childcare providers offsite if you want different weather policies. 🤷‍♀️

Stop lying. They are private providers who rent space from MCPS.

Mmkay. And MCPS does not have to let them use their space when they’ve deemed it unsafe to do so.

Tantrum harder.

They haven't deemed it unsafe. It's raining.

Is wasnt raining at 4:45 AM when they had to make the call. I love how everyone expects them to be able to predict the future but you are too irresponsible to predict how to handle your kids in this situation

It was warm enough at that time that it should have been clear to anyone with a basic understanding of science that we weren't going to have ice.

CO does not have that basic knowledge unfortunately. Hence lots of decisions out of "an abundance of caution."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.

That's a decision for their employers to make, not for MCPS to force upon private child care providers. In the past, some opened and some did not, based on local conditions and staffing capacity. It is ridiculous and offensive for MCPS to force this in a top down manner.

They aren’t “private childcare providers.” They operate under the auspices of the school district. You’re welcome to pay more and arrange daily transportation for your kid to ACTUAL private childcare providers offsite if you want different weather policies. 🤷‍♀️

Stop lying. They are private providers who rent space from MCPS.

So MCPS decides how/when the space will be available. Private providers using public buildings for their private businesses - and their customers - should understand this.

I would be annoyed at the change in policy from previous years. Why did they change it?

Because Thomas Taylor hates working moms

Nope. Just you insufferable c*nts

You deserve to spend your final years lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home

How was that train ride with your six yr old? Did you find seats together?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP does not comprehend that workers at childcare centers exist and go home at night.

That's a decision for their employers to make, not for MCPS to force upon private child care providers. In the past, some opened and some did not, based on local conditions and staffing capacity. It is ridiculous and offensive for MCPS to force this in a top down manner.

They aren’t “private childcare providers.” They operate under the auspices of the school district. You’re welcome to pay more and arrange daily transportation for your kid to ACTUAL private childcare providers offsite if you want different weather policies. 🤷‍♀️

Stop lying. They are private providers who rent space from MCPS.

So MCPS decides how/when the space will be available. Private providers using public buildings for their private businesses - and their customers - should understand this.

I would be annoyed at the change in policy from previous years. Why did they change it?

Because Thomas Taylor hates working moms

Nope. Just you insufferable c*nts

You deserve to spend your final years lying in your own feces in an understaffed nursing home

How was that train ride with your six yr old? Did you find seats together?

We did! It was fine, thanks for asking.

[Anonymous]

I do think a lot of the reason these conversations are so bad on DCUM now is the pandemic. There's a group of users who got so invested in yelling at parents who want their kids to go to school that they revisit that feeling whenever they can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if building management etc negotiated that they don't need to come earlier either. Or MCPS decided it's too complicated and unfair to have building management come before teachers and students to support childcare programs. The whole thing is looney. It's raining.

I'm wondering if it's a change relative to building management as well because otherwise the new policy makes no sense.

I ended up taking the entire day off because we don't have the option of unscheduled telework and I can't take my kids in till 11. For rain. Stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do think a lot of the reason these conversations are so bad on DCUM now is the pandemic. There's a group of users who got so invested in yelling at parents who want their kids to go to school that they revisit that feeling whenever they can.

What kind of sickness motivates this? Is it SAHPs if school-aged kids who need to justify their decision?

[Anonymous]

Nope, it’s just people venting their anger which accomplishes nothing. But they feel better. Briefly. Rinse and repeat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nope, it’s just people venting their anger which accomplishes nothing. But they feel better. Briefly. Rinse and repeat.

And what are you doing here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do think a lot of the reason these conversations are so bad on DCUM now is the pandemic. There's a group of users who got so invested in yelling at parents who want their kids to go to school that they revisit that feeling whenever they can.

What kind of sickness motivates this? Is it SAHPs if school-aged kids who need to justify their decision?

If you’re going back in time to the mommy wars pitting parents against each other:

It’s the angry WAHPs who can’t contingency plan who are the problem.

See how that works?