What in the world is happening at Carson?

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Anonymous wrote:The school’s administration is actually the cause here. Teachers report horrific behavior, and kids get “restorative justice” and sent right back. Zero help for the kids getting bullied, hurled racist language, and admin casually sweeping all under the rug. At some point something truly awful will happen and FCPS will be forced to finally put back in qualified, hands on administrators and teachers will be supported again. It was never like this here before. It is both gen ed and AAP and the problem is with the boys. Truly.

Unfortunately, this is not just Carson, it is EVERY school in FCPS.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope the younger kids parents now understand why those older kids parents want to stay, in order to stay far away from those problematic kids from those problematic school.


HUH?


Carsons demographics are wierd


They sure are.
Are there any Southeast Asian parents in here willing to discuss what types of parental consequences/behavior expectations you have?
Do you find the permissive parenting style common in the communities here or something else?
I am seriously and genuinely curious.
I'm not talking grades btw, think behavior, how others are treated, manners, etc.


Southeast Asia? You are asking only parents from Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, East Timor, Indonesia, the Philippines, Singapore to answer your question? I am very confused here. Why just these families?


You forgot India.


That is not South EAST Asia. Learn geography.


Who cares? You know what the PP meant. Carson is full of Indians.


I care, because it's stupid for PP to say that Asian kids (from anywhere in Asia) are or are not the problem.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope the younger kids parents now understand why those older kids parents want to stay, in order to stay far away from those problematic kids from those problematic school.


HUH?


Carsons demographics are wierd


They sure are.
Are there any Southeast Asian parents in here willing to discuss what types of parental consequences/behavior expectations you have?
Do you find the permissive parenting style common in the communities here or something else?
I am seriously and genuinely curious.
I'm not talking grades btw, think behavior, how others are treated, manners, etc.


Southeast Asia? You are asking only parents from Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, East Timor, Indonesia, the Philippines, Singapore to answer your question? I am very confused here. Why just these families?


You forgot India.


That is not South EAST Asia. Learn geography.


Who cares? You know what the PP meant. Carson is full of Indians.


I care, because it's stupid for PP to say that Asian kids (from anywhere in Asia) are or are not the problem.


I thought parents they would be well behaved because parnets beleive in discipline, I remember my friend would do well in school becuase she knew her parents didn't play.
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Anonymous wrote:The school’s administration is actually the cause here. Teachers report horrific behavior, and kids get “restorative justice” and sent right back. Zero help for the kids getting bullied, hurled racist language, and admin casually sweeping all under the rug. At some point something truly awful will happen and FCPS will be forced to finally put back in qualified, hands on administrators and teachers will be supported again. It was never like this here before. It is both gen ed and AAP and the problem is with the boys. Truly.


This is the case for most of FCPS, unfortunately. I've talked with administrators who say that their hands are tied because of county rules. Schools and central offices don't want angry parents or bad press. Where previously we could make a case for kids to attend an alternative placement, this is now extremely rare and typically only if the family self-selects this option. I am a long-time teacher who has seen all of the negative impacts of schools and parents not holding kids accountable, and I worry about our world as a result.
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Anonymous wrote:I hope the younger kids parents now understand why those older kids parents want to stay, in order to stay far away from those problematic kids from those problematic school.


HUH?


Carsons demographics are wierd


They sure are.
Are there any Southeast Asian parents in here willing to discuss what types of parental consequences/behavior expectations you have?
Do you find the permissive parenting style common in the communities here or something else?
I am seriously and genuinely curious.
I'm not talking grades btw, think behavior, how others are treated, manners, etc.


Southeast Asia? You are asking only parents from Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, East Timor, Indonesia, the Philippines, Singapore to answer your question? I am very confused here. Why just these families?


You forgot India.


That is not South EAST Asia. Learn geography.


Who cares? You know what the PP meant. Carson is full of Indians.


I care, because it's stupid for PP to say that Asian kids (from anywhere in Asia) are or are not the problem.


I thought parents they would be well behaved because parnets beleive in discipline, I remember my friend would do well in school becuase she knew her parents didn't play.


Indian parents now are very different from Indian parents 30 years ago.
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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.


Sounds like a corhort of *parents* who didn't rise to the challenge, and not the kids.

I have a 7th grader, and that group was quite fine as 6th graders and have had no major issues in MS.
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Anonymous wrote:There is for sure drug issue at Carson, the drug issue can only get worse when those kids are in HS.


The Crossfield/Navy AAP moms are out of control here. Why is it that you always bragged about your kids going to Carson up until about a month ago?


Carson had a school within a school.


Really? My kid is at Carson and has classes with kids for a variety of ES. He is in the AAP classes at Carson. If you are arguing that AAP is its own school, then that is far more then Navy and Crossfield. That includes kids from all of the ES that feed into Carson.


It's just referring to the level of interaction. If you're in aap there and mostly taking stem electives you don't get a chance to meet many other kids.
what are these stem electives?


Omg are you dumb? Stem electives are anything with computers or engineering.


The question was not "what are stem electives." but "what are these stem electives?"

Who is the "dumb" one here? Asking for specific examples in order to know whether they require high level knowledge above the norm.

There are no special AAP electives at Carson. They are the same as everywhere else.
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Anonymous wrote:At Carson they have teams which have similar schedules, so you are going to have a lot of AAP kids grouped together even in the electives. AAP kids are together on the same team.

They mix teams for electives and there are so many teams that they don't have AAP science, history, English at the same time. Like Majestic AAP kids could have their core classes in 1st 3rd, and 6th period while Dolphin AAP classes are 2nd, 4th, and 5th. Not to mention that math is a different track than AAP and at all different times. There are definitely children of all levels in my kid's PE class and electives because they've mentioned that it's nice to have X person in their classes again.
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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.


Sounds like a corhort of *parents* who didn't rise to the challenge, and not the kids.

I have a 7th grader, and that group was quite fine as 6th graders and have had no major issues in MS.


+1 This is a parent issue, not a school issue.
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Anonymous wrote:At Carson they have teams which have similar schedules, so you are going to have a lot of AAP kids grouped together even in the electives. AAP kids are together on the same team.

They mix teams for electives and there are so many teams that they don't have AAP science, history, English at the same time. Like Majestic AAP kids could have their core classes in 1st 3rd, and 6th period while Dolphin AAP classes are 2nd, 4th, and 5th. Not to mention that math is a different track than AAP and at all different times. There are definitely children of all levels in my kid's PE class and electives because they've mentioned that it's nice to have X person in their classes again.


Yes we know that. PP was just saying her kid didn’t interact with many. Relax.
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Anonymous wrote:The school’s administration is actually the cause here. Teachers report horrific behavior, and kids get “restorative justice” and sent right back. Zero help for the kids getting bullied, hurled racist language, and admin casually sweeping all under the rug. At some point something truly awful will happen and FCPS will be forced to finally put back in qualified, hands on administrators and teachers will be supported again. It was never like this here before. It is both gen ed and AAP and the problem is with the boys. Truly.


+1. This is happening everywhere, not just FCPS. Schools refuse to let anyone fail or give actual consequences for bad behavior. Great, the administration gets a reward because they reduced suspensions by 95%! Meanwhile students are damaging school property, fighting, and stealing during the school day and most of the experienced teachers are updating their resumes. As a bonus, the parents of the well behaved kids, especially girls, start looking at private school because they're fed up.
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Anonymous wrote:The school’s administration is actually the cause here. Teachers report horrific behavior, and kids get “restorative justice” and sent right back. Zero help for the kids getting bullied, hurled racist language, and admin casually sweeping all under the rug. At some point something truly awful will happen and FCPS will be forced to finally put back in qualified, hands on administrators and teachers will be supported again. It was never like this here before. It is both gen ed and AAP and the problem is with the boys. Truly.

Unfortunately, this is not just Carson, it is EVERY school in FCPS.


True. Every counselor in FCPS is involuntarily forced into indoctrination in “restorative justice techniques.”

It is analogous to re-traumatizing the child victim by dragging them back in front of the child who bullied them. It never works to reduce the problem.
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Anonymous wrote:At Carson they have teams which have similar schedules, so you are going to have a lot of AAP kids grouped together even in the electives. AAP kids are together on the same team.

They mix teams for electives and there are so many teams that they don't have AAP science, history, English at the same time. Like Majestic AAP kids could have their core classes in 1st 3rd, and 6th period while Dolphin AAP classes are 2nd, 4th, and 5th. Not to mention that math is a different track than AAP and at all different times. There are definitely children of all levels in my kid's PE class and electives because they've mentioned that it's nice to have X person in their classes again.


Yes we know that. PP was just saying her kid didn’t interact with many. Relax.


It sounds like you did not read the post I was replying to, it said:
At Carson they have teams which have similar schedules, so you are going to have a lot of AAP kids grouped together even in the electives. AAP kids are together on the same team.
That person was clearly wrong. No need to tell anyone to relax except yourself since you seem to be so upset by this.
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Anonymous wrote:The school’s administration is actually the cause here. Teachers report horrific behavior, and kids get “restorative justice” and sent right back. Zero help for the kids getting bullied, hurled racist language, and admin casually sweeping all under the rug. At some point something truly awful will happen and FCPS will be forced to finally put back in qualified, hands on administrators and teachers will be supported again. It was never like this here before. It is both gen ed and AAP and the problem is with the boys. Truly.

Unfortunately, this is not just Carson, it is EVERY school in FCPS.


True. Every counselor in FCPS is involuntarily forced into indoctrination in “restorative justice techniques.”

It is analogous to re-traumatizing the child victim by dragging them back in front of the child who bullied them. It never works to reduce the problem.


Can victims opt out?
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Anonymous wrote:At Carson they have teams which have similar schedules, so you are going to have a lot of AAP kids grouped together even in the electives. AAP kids are together on the same team.

They mix teams for electives and there are so many teams that they don't have AAP science, history, English at the same time. Like Majestic AAP kids could have their core classes in 1st 3rd, and 6th period while Dolphin AAP classes are 2nd, 4th, and 5th. Not to mention that math is a different track than AAP and at all different times. There are definitely children of all levels in my kid's PE class and electives because they've mentioned that it's nice to have X person in their classes again.


Yes we know that. PP was just saying her kid didn’t interact with many. Relax.


It sounds like you did not read the post I was replying to, it said:
At Carson they have teams which have similar schedules, so you are going to have a lot of AAP kids grouped together even in the electives. AAP kids are together on the same team.
That person was clearly wrong. No need to tell anyone to relax except yourself since you seem to be so upset by this.


No one was wrong, everyone has a different experience based on their personal schedule. Some AAP kids will have similar schedulers and some electives might indeed have more AAP kids than gen Ed kids and that could be because of the teams. Or just randomly by chance. Please relax about it. It really doesn’t matter what the make up of the classes is. Some of the AAP kids are going to stick with who they know which probably ends up being AAP kids anyway. Again, relax about it. Who cares what someone says if it’s not your experience.
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