What in the world is happening at Carson?

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

np. We have teachers at Longfellow that use those materials.

Well, you should let them know that the material that was created during Covid has been removed/updated countless times and they should go and pull down the new material.

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

np. We have teachers at Longfellow that use those materials.

Well, you should let them know that the material that was created during Covid has been removed/updated countless times and they should go and pull down the new material.

You’re thinking about the canned lessons created by gatehouse for virtual learning. That’s not what I meant. I mean just using the computer in general for turning in work (submitting on schoology), finishing slides, creating something on canvas, creating a slideshow. Teacher rely too much on the computer now and that obviously was worse in the years after Covid. We even have elementary schools administering all math tests on the computer which is preposterous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

np. We have teachers at Longfellow that use those materials.

Well, you should let them know that the material that was created during Covid has been removed/updated countless times and they should go and pull down the new material.

You’re thinking about the canned lessons created by gatehouse for virtual learning. That’s not what I meant. I mean just using the computer in general for turning in work (submitting on schoology), finishing slides, creating something on canvas, creating a slideshow. Teacher rely too much on the computer now and that obviously was worse in the years after Covid. We even have elementary schools administering all math tests on the computer which is preposterous.

Those computer tests are to make sure all kids are taking the same exams across the County.

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

np. We have teachers at Longfellow that use those materials.

Well, you should let them know that the material that was created during Covid has been removed/updated countless times and they should go and pull down the new material.

You’re thinking about the canned lessons created by gatehouse for virtual learning. That’s not what I meant. I mean just using the computer in general for turning in work (submitting on schoology), finishing slides, creating something on canvas, creating a slideshow. Teacher rely too much on the computer now and that obviously was worse in the years after Covid. We even have elementary schools administering all math tests on the computer which is preposterous.

You have a gross misunderstanding of "lessons created during Covid" if you think digital literacy and digital proficiency lessons are "lessons created during Covid."

---> Submitting on Schoology= learning how to submit files digitally, which is a real-life skill.

---> Creating something on Canva= learning media literacy, use of text features for purpose or accessibility, and functional skills on a computer, all of which are real-life skills.

---> Creating a slideshow= learning presentation skills, evaluating main idea, adapting to audience and purpose, use of text features, and supporting a claim, all of which are real-life skills.

The best teachers are teaching using both paper and the computer, for both are important to learn to use effectively.

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

np. We have teachers at Longfellow that use those materials.

Well, you should let them know that the material that was created during Covid has been removed/updated countless times and they should go and pull down the new material.

You’re thinking about the canned lessons created by gatehouse for virtual learning. That’s not what I meant. I mean just using the computer in general for turning in work (submitting on schoology), finishing slides, creating something on canvas, creating a slideshow. Teacher rely too much on the computer now and that obviously was worse in the years after Covid. We even have elementary schools administering all math tests on the computer which is preposterous.

You have a gross misunderstanding of "lessons created during Covid" if you think digital literacy and digital proficiency lessons are "lessons created during Covid."

---> Submitting on Schoology= learning how to submit files digitally, which is a real-life skill.

---> Creating something on Canva= learning media literacy, use of text features for purpose or accessibility, and functional skills on a computer, all of which are real-life skills.

---> Creating a slideshow= learning presentation skills, evaluating main idea, adapting to audience and purpose, use of text features, and supporting a claim, all of which are real-life skills.

The best teachers are teaching using both paper and the computer, for both are important to learn to use effectively.

Those are pretty minor skills though and are fine for summarizing rather than being detail oriented.

I'd rather they read full books rather than passages.

Write out equations on paper.

Produce detailed information with original observations rather than sumarization.

Daily math, PE and foreign language class instead of block scheduling for those types of classes.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at Marshall now, but this was not his experience at Kilmer.

I had a kid at Kilmer/Marshall a while back, and it absolutely happened at Kilmer. The only time the kids ever saw the principal (she left a year later) was when she occasionally emerged to yell at the kids not to touch each other in the halls between classes.

My son is a freshman at Marshall so our experience is more recent. That said my son was in aap, so his experience may have been different.

Nope, your child's AAP experience was no different from any other child's experience. The AAP kids are some of the worst offenders at Carson, I imagine it is the same at every other middle school. "Advanced" academics has absolutely nothing to do with a child's maturity or lack thereof.

Then why are folks saying that gen Ed is 75 percent boys and is totally out of control? Regardless, no experience like this at Kilmer.

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Anonymous wrote:My son is at Marshall now, but this was not his experience at Kilmer.

I had a kid at Kilmer/Marshall a while back, and it absolutely happened at Kilmer. The only time the kids ever saw the principal (she left a year later) was when she occasionally emerged to yell at the kids not to touch each other in the halls between classes.

My son is a freshman at Marshall so our experience is more recent. That said my son was in aap, so his experience may have been different.

Nope, your child's AAP experience was no different from any other child's experience. The AAP kids are some of the worst offenders at Carson, I imagine it is the same at every other middle school. "Advanced" academics has absolutely nothing to do with a child's maturity or lack thereof.

Then why are folks saying that gen Ed is 75 percent boys and is totally out of control? Regardless, no experience like this at Kilmer.

I don't know about other schools, but the current 7th grade class at Carson is more male than female across the board. It's not an AAP vs Gen Ed thing.

[Anonymous]

Yep. The teachers are using the same pixel art math assignments and escape room. Kids need to write out equations on paper. This crap is useless.

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

np. We have teachers at Longfellow that use those materials.

Well, you should let them know that the material that was created during Covid has been removed/updated countless times and they should go and pull down the new material.

You’re thinking about the canned lessons created by gatehouse for virtual learning. That’s not what I meant. I mean just using the computer in general for turning in work (submitting on schoology), finishing slides, creating something on canvas, creating a slideshow. Teacher rely too much on the computer now and that obviously was worse in the years after Covid. We even have elementary schools administering all math tests on the computer which is preposterous.

You have a gross misunderstanding of "lessons created during Covid" if you think digital literacy and digital proficiency lessons are "lessons created during Covid."

---> Submitting on Schoology= learning how to submit files digitally, which is a real-life skill.

---> Creating something on Canva= learning media literacy, use of text features for purpose or accessibility, and functional skills on a computer, all of which are real-life skills.

---> Creating a slideshow= learning presentation skills, evaluating main idea, adapting to audience and purpose, use of text features, and supporting a claim, all of which are real-life skills.

The best teachers are teaching using both paper and the computer, for both are important to learn to use effectively.

Those are pretty minor skills though and are fine for summarizing rather than being detail oriented.

I'd rather they read full books rather than passages.

Write out equations on paper.

Produce detailed information with original observations rather than sumarization.

Daily math, PE and foreign language class instead of block scheduling for those types of classes.

+1 math should never be in a computer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yep. The teachers are using the same pixel art math assignments and escape room. Kids need to write out equations on paper. This crap is useless.

I have a 7th grader at Carson - all of the math work is on paper. They have a packet for each unit and the teacher asks them to submit a picture of the filled out pages. Their tests are on paper too, I know because my child brings them home.

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

np. We have teachers at Longfellow that use those materials.

Well, you should let them know that the material that was created during Covid has been removed/updated countless times and they should go and pull down the new material.

You’re thinking about the canned lessons created by gatehouse for virtual learning. That’s not what I meant. I mean just using the computer in general for turning in work (submitting on schoology), finishing slides, creating something on canvas, creating a slideshow. Teacher rely too much on the computer now and that obviously was worse in the years after Covid. We even have elementary schools administering all math tests on the computer which is preposterous.

You have a gross misunderstanding of "lessons created during Covid" if you think digital literacy and digital proficiency lessons are "lessons created during Covid."

---> Submitting on Schoology= learning how to submit files digitally, which is a real-life skill.

---> Creating something on Canva= learning media literacy, use of text features for purpose or accessibility, and functional skills on a computer, all of which are real-life skills.

---> Creating a slideshow= learning presentation skills, evaluating main idea, adapting to audience and purpose, use of text features, and supporting a claim, all of which are real-life skills.

The best teachers are teaching using both paper and the computer, for both are important to learn to use effectively.

Those are pretty minor skills though and are fine for summarizing rather than being detail oriented.

I'd rather they read full books rather than passages.

Write out equations on paper.

Produce detailed information with original observations rather than sumarization.

Daily math, PE and foreign language class instead of block scheduling for those types of classes.

7th grade is finishing up The Outsiders in every middle school. You clearly don't have a child in middle school let alone at Carson.

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

np. We have teachers at Longfellow that use those materials.

Well, you should let them know that the material that was created during Covid has been removed/updated countless times and they should go and pull down the new material.

You’re thinking about the canned lessons created by gatehouse for virtual learning. That’s not what I meant. I mean just using the computer in general for turning in work (submitting on schoology), finishing slides, creating something on canvas, creating a slideshow. Teacher rely too much on the computer now and that obviously was worse in the years after Covid. We even have elementary schools administering all math tests on the computer which is preposterous.

You have a gross misunderstanding of "lessons created during Covid" if you think digital literacy and digital proficiency lessons are "lessons created during Covid."

---> Submitting on Schoology= learning how to submit files digitally, which is a real-life skill.

---> Creating something on Canva= learning media literacy, use of text features for purpose or accessibility, and functional skills on a computer, all of which are real-life skills.

---> Creating a slideshow= learning presentation skills, evaluating main idea, adapting to audience and purpose, use of text features, and supporting a claim, all of which are real-life skills.

The best teachers are teaching using both paper and the computer, for both are important to learn to use effectively.

Those are pretty minor skills though and are fine for summarizing rather than being detail oriented.

I'd rather they read full books rather than passages.

Write out equations on paper.

Produce detailed information with original observations rather than sumarization.

Daily math, PE and foreign language class instead of block scheduling for those types of classes.

7th grade is finishing up The Outsiders in every middle school. You clearly don't have a child in middle school let alone at Carson.

The Outsiders is definitely NOT read in every middle school. Every middle school is supposed to do book clubs with choice texts, not a whole-grade-level text.

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

np. We have teachers at Longfellow that use those materials.

Well, you should let them know that the material that was created during Covid has been removed/updated countless times and they should go and pull down the new material.

You’re thinking about the canned lessons created by gatehouse for virtual learning. That’s not what I meant. I mean just using the computer in general for turning in work (submitting on schoology), finishing slides, creating something on canvas, creating a slideshow. Teacher rely too much on the computer now and that obviously was worse in the years after Covid. We even have elementary schools administering all math tests on the computer which is preposterous.

You have a gross misunderstanding of "lessons created during Covid" if you think digital literacy and digital proficiency lessons are "lessons created during Covid."

---> Submitting on Schoology= learning how to submit files digitally, which is a real-life skill.

---> Creating something on Canva= learning media literacy, use of text features for purpose or accessibility, and functional skills on a computer, all of which are real-life skills.

---> Creating a slideshow= learning presentation skills, evaluating main idea, adapting to audience and purpose, use of text features, and supporting a claim, all of which are real-life skills.

The best teachers are teaching using both paper and the computer, for both are important to learn to use effectively.

Those are pretty minor skills though and are fine for summarizing rather than being detail oriented.

I'd rather they read full books rather than passages.

Write out equations on paper.

Produce detailed information with original observations rather than sumarization.

Daily math, PE and foreign language class instead of block scheduling for those types of classes.

7th grade is finishing up The Outsiders in every middle school. You clearly don't have a child in middle school let alone at Carson.

Have an aap 8th grader. It took them forever to finish that book last year and then they did a midsummers night dream. Then they watched the movie for the outsiders

Supposedly they're reading a total of 2 books in 8th grade which is far far less than I did. Animal farm and the giver. After 4 months, mid kid still hasn't finished the giver. They mostly read short stories and passages. The book statement in general is across FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:I know it’s getting old to keep pointing to Covid, but I genuinely think this particular cohort—mostly the current 7th graders, also likely some current 6th and 8th graders—missed a key window of social development after spending a full year in virtual school (for today’s 7th graders, that meant the second half of 1st grade and almost all of 2nd). At my DC’s elementary school, the administration could not wait for that 6th grade group to move on because their collective behavior was the worst they’d seen, and that same cohort came back noticeably more challenging in 3rd grade than they had been in 1st. I don’t have a student at Carson, but at another FCPS middle school, horseplay seems to be pretty common. This isn’t to excuse the behavior, just to offer a possible explanation for why it seems to be increasing.

Nope. Get a new excuse.

Next!

We will get a new excuse when you stop using the online materials from virtual learning.

No one is using 99% of the Covid materials. Try again.

+100, those materials aren’t even available anymore.

np. We have teachers at Longfellow that use those materials.

Well, you should let them know that the material that was created during Covid has been removed/updated countless times and they should go and pull down the new material.

You’re thinking about the canned lessons created by gatehouse for virtual learning. That’s not what I meant. I mean just using the computer in general for turning in work (submitting on schoology), finishing slides, creating something on canvas, creating a slideshow. Teacher rely too much on the computer now and that obviously was worse in the years after Covid. We even have elementary schools administering all math tests on the computer which is preposterous.

You have a gross misunderstanding of "lessons created during Covid" if you think digital literacy and digital proficiency lessons are "lessons created during Covid."

---> Submitting on Schoology= learning how to submit files digitally, which is a real-life skill.

---> Creating something on Canva= learning media literacy, use of text features for purpose or accessibility, and functional skills on a computer, all of which are real-life skills.

---> Creating a slideshow= learning presentation skills, evaluating main idea, adapting to audience and purpose, use of text features, and supporting a claim, all of which are real-life skills.

The best teachers are teaching using both paper and the computer, for both are important to learn to use effectively.

Those are pretty minor skills though and are fine for summarizing rather than being detail oriented.

I'd rather they read full books rather than passages.

Write out equations on paper.

Produce detailed information with original observations rather than sumarization.

Daily math, PE and foreign language class instead of block scheduling for those types of classes.

7th grade is finishing up The Outsiders in every middle school. You clearly don't have a child in middle school let alone at Carson.

Have an aap 8th grader. It took them forever to finish that book last year and then they did a midsummers night dream. Then they watched the movie for the outsiders

Supposedly they're reading a total of 2 books in 8th grade which is far far less than I did. Animal farm and the giver. After 4 months, mid kid still hasn't finished the giver. They mostly read short stories and passages. The book statement in general is across FCPS.

My kid is at a different middle school. In 7th grade Language Arts, he read Prisoner, a book about the youngest kid to climb Mt. Everest, and Restart. None were very challenging for him, but they were at least full books. He also read a lot of short stories, poems, and articles.

In 8th grade Language Arts, he has been reading a lot about technology and horror. His class hasn't read any full books together, but his teacher requires her students to read a full book for independent reading and they have assignments based on the books.

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My DC is at a different MS. In grade 7 last year they only read one book called ‘Refugee’. The questions were all multiple choice. The rest of the year was very short passages and articles.

In grade 8 they have read independently one book from the library. No book club. No group book.