Post calculus classes in HS

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Anonymous wrote:For those whose children took multivariable, linear eq and diff eq, what were their math SAT score?

The reason I ask is because it is incredibly rare to have math beyond Calc BC where I am from!

800, without prep, and they didn’t think it was hard.

I will add, in case I come across as a huge braggart, that my kid has to work their rear off in humanities classes, because unlike math, literary analysis doesn't come naturally. They are at a rigorous school and spend minimal time studying for post-calc math and physics courses but have to devote a whole lot of time for lit and history classes. Definitely not pushed into higher math.

No worries. We don't know who your kid is, and nobody gives F anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:For those whose children took multivariable, linear eq and diff eq, what were their math SAT score?

The reason I ask is because it is incredibly rare to have math beyond Calc BC where I am from!

My kid who took all three had a 770.

And, it is very very rare for kids in the DMV to take MVC, LA, and DE in high school. Don’t get the wrong impression from this thread.

MVC is more common but it is much less common to do the other two.

My child and at least 2 dozen of his class mates have all completed MVC, LA, and DE in high school. It is hardly rare.

Ok, let’s say there are 200,000 HS students in the DMV, or 50,000 graduating seniors. How many do you think will have taken all three of those classes before they graduate? Half? 5,000? 500? 150?

I find it kind of interesting that a very small number of kids take these super advanced math classes yet apparently a huge percentage of the parents of these kids waste their days posting here. One would think that such smart parents could be using their time more productively (obviously including myself in this group of those who are wasting their time).

DCUM - home of the humblebrag.

These are not "super advanced math classes". Yes, they are beyond Calc, but just further along. No one is impressed and it does not give any advantage in college applications, much to the disbelief of parents.

My child did this because they want to major in math.

If they wanted to major in math, wouldn't focusing more on proofs (USAMTS, USAMO, self-studying real analysis, linear algebra, etc) be more useful?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those whose children took multivariable, linear eq and diff eq, what were their math SAT score?

The reason I ask is because it is incredibly rare to have math beyond Calc BC where I am from!

My kid who took all three had a 770.

And, it is very very rare for kids in the DMV to take MVC, LA, and DE in high school. Don’t get the wrong impression from this thread.

MVC is more common but it is much less common to do the other two.

Agreed. My senior currently taking MVC is one of maybe 10 in the graduating class of 500. Might do linear algebra in the spring; TBD.

Why is it so rare? 7th grade algebra is fairly common, and that leads to MVC at a normal pace with BC so what gives?

Our HS doesn’t offer MVC. The students taking it are doing so at a university through an agreement with the school system, which is an awesome opportunity but also creates lots of hurdles—you have to apply/be accepted then build your senior year schedule to accommodate the class off-campus. It’s a pain, and if my kid weren’t an aspiring math major, I probably would not have encouraged him to do it.

Most of the kids taking BC junior year take AP stats senior year.

See above - Abbott and Tao have written great real analysis textbooks

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those whose children took multivariable, linear eq and diff eq, what were their math SAT score?

The reason I ask is because it is incredibly rare to have math beyond Calc BC where I am from!

My kid who took all three had a 770.

And, it is very very rare for kids in the DMV to take MVC, LA, and DE in high school. Don’t get the wrong impression from this thread.

MVC is more common but it is much less common to do the other two.

Agreed. My senior currently taking MVC is one of maybe 10 in the graduating class of 500. Might do linear algebra in the spring; TBD.

Why is it so rare? 7th grade algebra is fairly common, and that leads to MVC at a normal pace with BC so what gives?

Our HS doesn’t offer MVC. The students taking it are doing so at a university through an agreement with the school system, which is an awesome opportunity but also creates lots of hurdles—you have to apply/be accepted then build your senior year schedule to accommodate the class off-campus. It’s a pain, and if my kid weren’t an aspiring math major, I probably would not have encouraged him to do it.

Most of the kids taking BC junior year take AP stats senior year.

See above - Abbott and Tao have written great real analysis textbooks

Great? Certain classes are required for math majors. MVC is one of them. Taking it now means he can get to the more advanced classes more quickly in college.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those whose children took multivariable, linear eq and diff eq, what were their math SAT score?

The reason I ask is because it is incredibly rare to have math beyond Calc BC where I am from!

My kid who took all three had a 770.

And, it is very very rare for kids in the DMV to take MVC, LA, and DE in high school. Don’t get the wrong impression from this thread.

MVC is more common but it is much less common to do the other two.

Agreed. My senior currently taking MVC is one of maybe 10 in the graduating class of 500. Might do linear algebra in the spring; TBD.

Why is it so rare? 7th grade algebra is fairly common, and that leads to MVC at a normal pace with BC so what gives?

Our HS doesn’t offer MVC. The students taking it are doing so at a university through an agreement with the school system, which is an awesome opportunity but also creates lots of hurdles—you have to apply/be accepted then build your senior year schedule to accommodate the class off-campus. It’s a pain, and if my kid weren’t an aspiring math major, I probably would not have encouraged him to do it.

Most of the kids taking BC junior year take AP stats senior year.

See above - Abbott and Tao have written great real analysis textbooks

Great? Certain classes are required for math majors. MVC is one of them. Taking it now means he can get to the more advanced classes more quickly in college.

The one good thing about that is saving money and perhaps graduating early. I assume that's what you are getting at here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those whose children took multivariable, linear eq and diff eq, what were their math SAT score?

The reason I ask is because it is incredibly rare to have math beyond Calc BC where I am from!

My kid who took all three had a 770.

And, it is very very rare for kids in the DMV to take MVC, LA, and DE in high school. Don’t get the wrong impression from this thread.

MVC is more common but it is much less common to do the other two.

Agreed. My senior currently taking MVC is one of maybe 10 in the graduating class of 500. Might do linear algebra in the spring; TBD.

Why is it so rare? 7th grade algebra is fairly common, and that leads to MVC at a normal pace with BC so what gives?

Our HS doesn’t offer MVC. The students taking it are doing so at a university through an agreement with the school system, which is an awesome opportunity but also creates lots of hurdles—you have to apply/be accepted then build your senior year schedule to accommodate the class off-campus. It’s a pain, and if my kid weren’t an aspiring math major, I probably would not have encouraged him to do it.

Most of the kids taking BC junior year take AP stats senior year.

See above - Abbott and Tao have written great real analysis textbooks

Great? Certain classes are required for math majors. MVC is one of them. Taking it now means he can get to the more advanced classes more quickly in college.

The one good thing about that is saving money and perhaps graduating early. I assume that's what you are getting at here.

No. I’m getting at my kid being able to have more course options in college because he will have taken MVC and LA (at a university) before he gets there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those whose children took multivariable, linear eq and diff eq, what were their math SAT score?

The reason I ask is because it is incredibly rare to have math beyond Calc BC where I am from!

My kid who took all three had a 770.

And, it is very very rare for kids in the DMV to take MVC, LA, and DE in high school. Don’t get the wrong impression from this thread.

MVC is more common but it is much less common to do the other two.

My child and at least 2 dozen of his class mates have all completed MVC, LA, and DE in high school. It is hardly rare.

Ok, let’s say there are 200,000 HS students in the DMV, or 50,000 graduating seniors. How many do you think will have taken all three of those classes before they graduate? Half? 5,000? 500? 150?

I find it kind of interesting that a very small number of kids take these super advanced math classes yet apparently a huge percentage of the parents of these kids waste their days posting here. One would think that such smart parents could be using their time more productively (obviously including myself in this group of those who are wasting their time).

DCUM - home of the humblebrag.

You could say the same things about the sports parents in the sports threads, but I bet you won't. If you go on a thread about X, don't get mad when X people show up.

NP: If I sports thread had 40 of the top 50 lax or volleyball or tiddlywinks players from the area all posting I would also find that odd.

And as a reminder, kids need to take the best their schools offer. So if your child's school only goes through BC, your child is at no disadvantage to these kids taking classes beyond BC.

And to the poster who said their child took BC as a junior then nothing as a senior, they should strongly consider retaking something as a freshman at college, or at least make sure to take math as a first semester freshman. Back in the dark ages when it was really impressive to take BC as a junior I did so then took the equivalent of third semester college math fall of my sophomore year. Big mistake - I was very rusty and it was my lowest grade in college (a lousy professor didn't help). Once you get to college there is no rush. When in doubt, retake it.

There are hundreds of post-calc students in FCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those whose children took multivariable, linear eq and diff eq, what were their math SAT score?

The reason I ask is because it is incredibly rare to have math beyond Calc BC where I am from!

My kid who took all three had a 770.

And, it is very very rare for kids in the DMV to take MVC, LA, and DE in high school. Don’t get the wrong impression from this thread.

MVC is more common but it is much less common to do the other two.

Agreed. My senior currently taking MVC is one of maybe 10 in the graduating class of 500. Might do linear algebra in the spring; TBD.

Why is it so rare? 7th grade algebra is fairly common, and that leads to MVC at a normal pace with BC so what gives?

Our HS doesn’t offer MVC. The students taking it are doing so at a university through an agreement with the school system, which is an awesome opportunity but also creates lots of hurdles—you have to apply/be accepted then build your senior year schedule to accommodate the class off-campus. It’s a pain, and if my kid weren’t an aspiring math major, I probably would not have encouraged him to do it.

Most of the kids taking BC junior year take AP stats senior year.

See above - Abbott and Tao have written great real analysis textbooks

Great? Certain classes are required for math majors. MVC is one of them. Taking it now means he can get to the more advanced classes more quickly in college.

The one good thing about that is saving money and perhaps graduating early. I assume that's what you are getting at here.

There's also this little thing called learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those whose children took multivariable, linear eq and diff eq, what were their math SAT score?

The reason I ask is because it is incredibly rare to have math beyond Calc BC where I am from!

750+, usually

Mine took MV and had a 730. Only took it once. It was enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My engineering majors chose to start in Calc 2 and Physics 1 despite having taken MV and both physics at the highschool AP level. I have two engineers at different colleges and both schools cautioned that it was better to “repeat” some of these foundational classes at the college level because they are more in depth than the HS version and you don’t want knowledge gaps as you take the upper level courses. Both found them challenging despite some of the material being a “repeat”. Unless you’re really trying to save $ by advancing quickly and graduating early, I would not try to skip the foundation classes.

Same for my daughter.