AAP Center Expansion?

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that if every middle school can send kids to TJ, then every middle school should be able to offer AAP.

Not that straightforward because certain courses require certain requirements. For example, a random teacher can’t just teach algebra and geometry (which is why algebra in 6th grade is crazy). You need a math endorsement from VDOE. Some local schools may not have the staff with those requirements.

I believe every MS has math teachers for Algebra 1 and most have a teacher for Geometry but those classes are not AAP classes.

But there are schools that do not have enough AAP students to offer AAP classes so the AAP kids are in honors classes. Center schools can offer AAP classes because they have more students and can offer multiple AAP classes in LA, Social Studies, and Science to meet the scheduling needs of the AAP kids at the school.

Some people will tell you that the honors courses are teaching the same material as the AAP courses, some people will tell you that the AAP courses go a bit more in depth. At a Center school, AAP kids will only be in classes with other AAP kids. Parents send their kids to the Center because they think the peer group is stronger and they don't like the open enrollment in Honors classes.

Every MS should hve enough kids who were selected for AAP that they have enough kids to fill out multiple sections of the 3 core AAP classes. There really isn't a need for MS Centers.

Why are people so bothered by MS center schools? What’s it to you if AAP kids choose to go to a center school over the local? It has no effect on your kid.

Not true in some cases. Take Lewis for example. Kids leave the pyramid for AAP middle school and then frequently transfer for high school (like at LBSS). This robs Lewis of high performing students and thus impacts the advanced courses Lewis can offer.

It is not an AAP kid’s job to create opportunity for non-AAP students. That is the job of FCPS. If you want better programming, you need to ask the county to provide it. Another student shouldn’t have to compromise on their education to trick FCPS into offering better programming.

Your kid can still have access to AAP if they offer it at every middle school. You aren’t owed a massive AAP center that is fed by three or four middle schools.

Why does it matter to you? Why so bothered?

I am going to guess you're a parent whose kid will go to Franklin instead of Carson if they put AAP at all middle schools. Why so worried? If there is an AAP program at Franklin your kid will be with many of their peers from Navy. Why should you get a choice to optimize your kid's education without having to move to a new home, that others do not get?

If that's the case, that a parent is concerned about sending their child to Franklin instead of Carson, they shouldn't worry. I sent kids through AAP programs at both Carson and Franklin, and we were significantly more impressed with Franklin's program than Carson's. There is nothing to worry about.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that if every middle school can send kids to TJ, then every middle school should be able to offer AAP.

Not that straightforward because certain courses require certain requirements. For example, a random teacher can’t just teach algebra and geometry (which is why algebra in 6th grade is crazy). You need a math endorsement from VDOE. Some local schools may not have the staff with those requirements.

I believe every MS has math teachers for Algebra 1 and most have a teacher for Geometry but those classes are not AAP classes.

But there are schools that do not have enough AAP students to offer AAP classes so the AAP kids are in honors classes. Center schools can offer AAP classes because they have more students and can offer multiple AAP classes in LA, Social Studies, and Science to meet the scheduling needs of the AAP kids at the school.

Some people will tell you that the honors courses are teaching the same material as the AAP courses, some people will tell you that the AAP courses go a bit more in depth. At a Center school, AAP kids will only be in classes with other AAP kids. Parents send their kids to the Center because they think the peer group is stronger and they don't like the open enrollment in Honors classes.

Every MS should hve enough kids who were selected for AAP that they have enough kids to fill out multiple sections of the 3 core AAP classes. There really isn't a need for MS Centers.

Why are people so bothered by MS center schools? What’s it to you if AAP kids choose to go to a center school over the local? It has no effect on your kid.

Not true in some cases. Take Lewis for example. Kids leave the pyramid for AAP middle school and then frequently transfer for high school (like at LBSS). This robs Lewis of high performing students and thus impacts the advanced courses Lewis can offer.

It is not an AAP kid’s job to create opportunity for non-AAP students. That is the job of FCPS. If you want better programming, you need to ask the county to provide it. Another student shouldn’t have to compromise on their education to trick FCPS into offering better programming.

Your kid can still have access to AAP if they offer it at every middle school. You aren’t owed a massive AAP center that is fed by three or four middle schools.

Why does it matter to you? Why so bothered?

I am going to guess you're a parent whose kid will go to Franklin instead of Carson if they put AAP at all middle schools. Why so worried? If there is an AAP program at Franklin your kid will be with many of their peers from Navy. Why should you get a choice to optimize your kid's education without having to move to a new home, that others do not get?

If that's the case, that a parent is concerned about sending their child to Franklin instead of Carson, they shouldn't worry. I sent kids through AAP programs at both Carson and Franklin, and we were significantly more impressed with Franklin's program than Carson's. There is nothing to worry about.

I think a PP accused the complainer of being worried about Franklin. I don't think that is the situation. i suspect it is another area causing concern.
I cannot imagine anyone being worried about an AAP center at Franklin. Oak Hill and Navy both have centers and they are feeder schools to Franklin. I would guess most Carson kids come from those centers. Of course, Oak Hill does also serve Fox Mill and Navy serves Crossfield, and those kids would go to Carson. I think complainer is more than likely from a different area.

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Anonymous wrote:The anti AAP center folks want to complain that AAP folks are entitled for wanting to keep their center school but the only reason they have an issue with this is is because they don’t want to cross the street to another elementary school that actually does meet their academic needs.

What school are you even talking about here? What elementary school doesn't currently meet kids' academic needs? You are not making sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that if every middle school can send kids to TJ, then every middle school should be able to offer AAP.

Not that straightforward because certain courses require certain requirements. For example, a random teacher can’t just teach algebra and geometry (which is why algebra in 6th grade is crazy). You need a math endorsement from VDOE. Some local schools may not have the staff with those requirements.

I believe every MS has math teachers for Algebra 1 and most have a teacher for Geometry but those classes are not AAP classes.

But there are schools that do not have enough AAP students to offer AAP classes so the AAP kids are in honors classes. Center schools can offer AAP classes because they have more students and can offer multiple AAP classes in LA, Social Studies, and Science to meet the scheduling needs of the AAP kids at the school.

Some people will tell you that the honors courses are teaching the same material as the AAP courses, some people will tell you that the AAP courses go a bit more in depth. At a Center school, AAP kids will only be in classes with other AAP kids. Parents send their kids to the Center because they think the peer group is stronger and they don't like the open enrollment in Honors classes.

Every MS should hve enough kids who were selected for AAP that they have enough kids to fill out multiple sections of the 3 core AAP classes. There really isn't a need for MS Centers.

Plus, once you get to HS, it truly is Honors for all! Or at least, honors for all who want it...

Yes and the difference from AAP middle school is staggering. We are back to unfocused, shouldn’t be there trouble makers even in honors classes in high school because it’s open enrollment. AAP classes in middle school were amazing. Honors classes in high school are a complete joke. You have to actually get to the AP level to weed out losers which sucks. AAP was nice. Wish they still have it in HS.

Wow.

I’m sure the apple fall far from the tree with the kid(s) of that parent. Karma may come back to bite them when AI replaces the positions for which they groomed their children so carefully.

Don’t worry. AI will also replace your kids jobs too. Barista, fry cook and Uber driver.

Nah my kids will have soft skills and connections to lean on. Unlike your socially stunted offspring.

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Umm yes there is. There are MSs that offer classes online because they don’t have staff to teach certain classes.

Which middle school is only offering Algebra I or Geometry online due to not having licensed staff?
Please name the school(s), for that is highly unlikely since it is nearly impossible to be hired to teach middle school math unless you already hold at least the Algebra endorsement.

There are definitely middle schools who offer Algebra II and/or pre-calc online, but it is not because they don’t have the staff to teach it. Rather, it is because there are too few kids taking that class to justify an entire section for fewer than 8 students.

With the pilot Algebra I in Grade 6, there will be a greater demand for Algebra II in middle school, but there currently aren't that many students taking Algebra II (or higher) in middle school. Only a few middle schools even have a section of Algebra II at all.

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Motion passed for AAP at every middle school 11-1. Reid said likely a multi year implementation (a few schools each year) beginning in Fall 2027.

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Anonymous wrote:Motion passed for AAP at every middle school 11-1. Reid said likely a multi year implementation (a few schools each year) beginning in Fall 2027.

This poses an interesting choice for families of kids starting MS in the next few years. Attend the center for 7th knowing the kids may/will be moved to the base for 8th, or just start at the base to avoid having to change schools (assuming there are AAP courses to take at the base)? Seems they will have to start the implementation with the base schools that already have AAP and work on getting it up and running at the schools that don’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Motion passed for AAP at every middle school 11-1. Reid said likely a multi year implementation (a few schools each year) beginning in Fall 2027.

This is a good development but it also means more boundary changes. For example, Thoreau can’t handle all the kids who’d return from Jackson and Kilmer, whereas without AAP kids from other schools Rocky Run will be much smaller.

Maybe they should have figured this stuff out before they started a county-wide boundary review, but it’s FCPS. Doing things ass-backwards is standard operating procedure for them now.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that if every middle school can send kids to TJ, then every middle school should be able to offer AAP.

Not that straightforward because certain courses require certain requirements. For example, a random teacher can’t just teach algebra and geometry (which is why algebra in 6th grade is crazy). You need a math endorsement from VDOE. Some local schools may not have the staff with those requirements.

I believe every MS has math teachers for Algebra 1 and most have a teacher for Geometry but those classes are not AAP classes.

But there are schools that do not have enough AAP students to offer AAP classes so the AAP kids are in honors classes. Center schools can offer AAP classes because they have more students and can offer multiple AAP classes in LA, Social Studies, and Science to meet the scheduling needs of the AAP kids at the school.

Some people will tell you that the honors courses are teaching the same material as the AAP courses, some people will tell you that the AAP courses go a bit more in depth. At a Center school, AAP kids will only be in classes with other AAP kids. Parents send their kids to the Center because they think the peer group is stronger and they don't like the open enrollment in Honors classes.

Every MS should hve enough kids who were selected for AAP that they have enough kids to fill out multiple sections of the 3 core AAP classes. There really isn't a need for MS Centers.

Plus, once you get to HS, it truly is Honors for all! Or at least, honors for all who want it...

Yes and the difference from AAP middle school is staggering. We are back to unfocused, shouldn’t be there trouble makers even in honors classes in high school because it’s open enrollment. AAP classes in middle school were amazing. Honors classes in high school are a complete joke. You have to actually get to the AP level to weed out losers which sucks. AAP was nice. Wish they still have it in HS.

Wow.

I’m sure the apple fall far from the tree with the kid(s) of that parent. Karma may come back to bite them when AI replaces the positions for which they groomed their children so carefully.

Don’t worry. AI will also replace your kids jobs too. Barista, fry cook and Uber driver.

Nah my kids will have soft skills and connections to lean on. Unlike your socially stunted offspring.

Just make sure your kid leaves room for cream and sugar in my coffee. Thanks in advance.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that if every middle school can send kids to TJ, then every middle school should be able to offer AAP.

Not that straightforward because certain courses require certain requirements. For example, a random teacher can’t just teach algebra and geometry (which is why algebra in 6th grade is crazy). You need a math endorsement from VDOE. Some local schools may not have the staff with those requirements.

I believe every MS has math teachers for Algebra 1 and most have a teacher for Geometry but those classes are not AAP classes.

But there are schools that do not have enough AAP students to offer AAP classes so the AAP kids are in honors classes. Center schools can offer AAP classes because they have more students and can offer multiple AAP classes in LA, Social Studies, and Science to meet the scheduling needs of the AAP kids at the school.

Some people will tell you that the honors courses are teaching the same material as the AAP courses, some people will tell you that the AAP courses go a bit more in depth. At a Center school, AAP kids will only be in classes with other AAP kids. Parents send their kids to the Center because they think the peer group is stronger and they don't like the open enrollment in Honors classes.

Every MS should hve enough kids who were selected for AAP that they have enough kids to fill out multiple sections of the 3 core AAP classes. There really isn't a need for MS Centers.

Plus, once you get to HS, it truly is Honors for all! Or at least, honors for all who want it...

Yes and the difference from AAP middle school is staggering. We are back to unfocused, shouldn’t be there trouble makers even in honors classes in high school because it’s open enrollment. AAP classes in middle school were amazing. Honors classes in high school are a complete joke. You have to actually get to the AP level to weed out losers which sucks. AAP was nice. Wish they still have it in HS.

Wow.

I’m sure the apple fall far from the tree with the kid(s) of that parent. Karma may come back to bite them when AI replaces the positions for which they groomed their children so carefully.

Don’t worry. AI will also replace your kids jobs too. Barista, fry cook and Uber driver.

Nah my kids will have soft skills and connections to lean on. Unlike your socially stunted offspring.

Just make sure your kid leaves room for cream and sugar in my coffee. Thanks in advance.

I bet more than one person has spit in the coffee you ordered.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that if every middle school can send kids to TJ, then every middle school should be able to offer AAP.

Not that straightforward because certain courses require certain requirements. For example, a random teacher can’t just teach algebra and geometry (which is why algebra in 6th grade is crazy). You need a math endorsement from VDOE. Some local schools may not have the staff with those requirements.

I believe every MS has math teachers for Algebra 1 and most have a teacher for Geometry but those classes are not AAP classes.

But there are schools that do not have enough AAP students to offer AAP classes so the AAP kids are in honors classes. Center schools can offer AAP classes because they have more students and can offer multiple AAP classes in LA, Social Studies, and Science to meet the scheduling needs of the AAP kids at the school.

Some people will tell you that the honors courses are teaching the same material as the AAP courses, some people will tell you that the AAP courses go a bit more in depth. At a Center school, AAP kids will only be in classes with other AAP kids. Parents send their kids to the Center because they think the peer group is stronger and they don't like the open enrollment in Honors classes.

Every MS should hve enough kids who were selected for AAP that they have enough kids to fill out multiple sections of the 3 core AAP classes. There really isn't a need for MS Centers.

Why are people so bothered by MS center schools? What’s it to you if AAP kids choose to go to a center school over the local? It has no effect on your kid.

Not true in some cases. Take Lewis for example. Kids leave the pyramid for AAP middle school and then frequently transfer for high school (like at LBSS). This robs Lewis of high performing students and thus impacts the advanced courses Lewis can offer.

It is not an AAP kid’s job to create opportunity for non-AAP students. That is the job of FCPS. If you want better programming, you need to ask the county to provide it. Another student shouldn’t have to compromise on their education to trick FCPS into offering better programming.

Your kid can still have access to AAP if they offer it at every middle school. You aren’t owed a massive AAP center that is fed by three or four middle schools.

Why does it matter to you? Why so bothered?

I am going to guess you're a parent whose kid will go to Franklin instead of Carson if they put AAP at all middle schools. Why so worried? If there is an AAP program at Franklin your kid will be with many of their peers from Navy. Why should you get a choice to optimize your kid's education without having to move to a new home, that others do not get?

If that's the case, that a parent is concerned about sending their child to Franklin instead of Carson, they shouldn't worry. I sent kids through AAP programs at both Carson and Franklin, and we were significantly more impressed with Franklin's program than Carson's. There is nothing to worry about.

That’s funny. I had one at Carson and one at Franklin. Franklin was a complete joke. The teachers are not good, they don’t use best practice, and it’s completely unorganized. Not to mention the pathetic after school program.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that if every middle school can send kids to TJ, then every middle school should be able to offer AAP.

Not that straightforward because certain courses require certain requirements. For example, a random teacher can’t just teach algebra and geometry (which is why algebra in 6th grade is crazy). You need a math endorsement from VDOE. Some local schools may not have the staff with those requirements.

I believe every MS has math teachers for Algebra 1 and most have a teacher for Geometry but those classes are not AAP classes.

But there are schools that do not have enough AAP students to offer AAP classes so the AAP kids are in honors classes. Center schools can offer AAP classes because they have more students and can offer multiple AAP classes in LA, Social Studies, and Science to meet the scheduling needs of the AAP kids at the school.

Some people will tell you that the honors courses are teaching the same material as the AAP courses, some people will tell you that the AAP courses go a bit more in depth. At a Center school, AAP kids will only be in classes with other AAP kids. Parents send their kids to the Center because they think the peer group is stronger and they don't like the open enrollment in Honors classes.

Every MS should hve enough kids who were selected for AAP that they have enough kids to fill out multiple sections of the 3 core AAP classes. There really isn't a need for MS Centers.

Plus, once you get to HS, it truly is Honors for all! Or at least, honors for all who want it...

Yes and the difference from AAP middle school is staggering. We are back to unfocused, shouldn’t be there trouble makers even in honors classes in high school because it’s open enrollment. AAP classes in middle school were amazing. Honors classes in high school are a complete joke. You have to actually get to the AP level to weed out losers which sucks. AAP was nice. Wish they still have it in HS.

Wow.

I’m sure the apple fall far from the tree with the kid(s) of that parent. Karma may come back to bite them when AI replaces the positions for which they groomed their children so carefully.

Don’t worry. AI will also replace your kids jobs too. Barista, fry cook and Uber driver.

Nah my kids will have soft skills and connections to lean on. Unlike your socially stunted offspring.

Just make sure your kid leaves room for cream and sugar in my coffee. Thanks in advance.

I bet more than one person has spit in the coffee you ordered.

Just like how God spit on your life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Motion passed for AAP at every middle school 11-1. Reid said likely a multi year implementation (a few schools each year) beginning in Fall 2027.

This poses an interesting choice for families of kids starting MS in the next few years. Attend the center for 7th knowing the kids may/will be moved to the base for 8th, or just start at the base to avoid having to change schools (assuming there are AAP courses to take at the base)? Seems they will have to start the implementation with the base schools that already have AAP and work on getting it up and running at the schools that don’t.

Historically, the grandfather students in.

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Eliminating the AAP behemoth at Carson is long overdue. There’s no need to bus all those Franklin and even some Herndon kids there.

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Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that if every middle school can send kids to TJ, then every middle school should be able to offer AAP.

Not that straightforward because certain courses require certain requirements. For example, a random teacher can’t just teach algebra and geometry (which is why algebra in 6th grade is crazy). You need a math endorsement from VDOE. Some local schools may not have the staff with those requirements.

I believe every MS has math teachers for Algebra 1 and most have a teacher for Geometry but those classes are not AAP classes.

But there are schools that do not have enough AAP students to offer AAP classes so the AAP kids are in honors classes. Center schools can offer AAP classes because they have more students and can offer multiple AAP classes in LA, Social Studies, and Science to meet the scheduling needs of the AAP kids at the school.

Some people will tell you that the honors courses are teaching the same material as the AAP courses, some people will tell you that the AAP courses go a bit more in depth. At a Center school, AAP kids will only be in classes with other AAP kids. Parents send their kids to the Center because they think the peer group is stronger and they don't like the open enrollment in Honors classes.

Every MS should hve enough kids who were selected for AAP that they have enough kids to fill out multiple sections of the 3 core AAP classes. There really isn't a need for MS Centers.

Plus, once you get to HS, it truly is Honors for all! Or at least, honors for all who want it...

Yes and the difference from AAP middle school is staggering. We are back to unfocused, shouldn’t be there trouble makers even in honors classes in high school because it’s open enrollment. AAP classes in middle school were amazing. Honors classes in high school are a complete joke. You have to actually get to the AP level to weed out losers which sucks. AAP was nice. Wish they still have it in HS.

Wow.

I’m sure the apple fall far from the tree with the kid(s) of that parent. Karma may come back to bite them when AI replaces the positions for which they groomed their children so carefully.

Don’t worry. AI will also replace your kids jobs too. Barista, fry cook and Uber driver.

Nah my kids will have soft skills and connections to lean on. Unlike your socially stunted offspring.

Just make sure your kid leaves room for cream and sugar in my coffee. Thanks in advance.

I bet more than one person has spit in the coffee you ordered.

Just like how God spit on your life.

All good here! Sorry you’re mad that the rest of the world doesn’t think your kids are as special as you believe them to be. Make sure you link them up with a good therapist so they can work through the issues you created for them.