If you are a visible minority, is it safe to go into DC?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“visible minority”. ?!?!

OMG, grandma would you PLEASE STAY OFF THE INTERNET?!?!

What exactly is your problem? Shouldn't you still be at recess or in class?

What’s “my” problem, op? You are.

- you constantly throw Jeff’s rules back in his face by posting your political threads in Off Topic, even though you know better and have had your threads moved or deleted,

- you are trying to cause racial animosity for your political reasons (see first point), but worse

- even though you are white, you’re intentionally trying to intimidate and frighten BIPOC people (it hasn’t been “minorities” in decades BTW), and one might even say: put them in terror,

- what might we call someone (someone like you) who seeks to achieve their political goals by spreading terror? (racial terror in this case): a terrorist. That’s you.

So do us all a favor and take your terrorist schtick someplace other than DCUM, ok OP?

+1

Disagree. There are plenty of groups that have legitimate reasons and a whole lot of historical evidence to feel targeted. The entire international community in this area is stressed out. Since I'm on the wealthy, educated and/or diplomat end of that community, I can speak for them: we all have access to company lawyers or can pay for our own; we are all "legal" here, until ICE decides that we are not; but that still doesn't protect us from arrests and unfair consequences.

Two examples from my own knowledge:

1. A few months ago, two World Bank employees had their diplomatic visas confiscated when they were trying to return to the US after a business trip, which meant they were stuck at the border. Their kids go to Walter Johnson HS in North Bethesda. They had homes and pets and everything here. Can you imagine the stress, even though it all got sorted out in a few weeks? What are the kids supposed to do, huh? Neither employee had any immigration or criminal issues. It's just that their country of origin had displeased the Trump administration the week prior.

2. Dozens of Korean workers detained at the Hyundai plant in Georgia were actually legally allowed to be there, with the appropriate work visa, and were legally allowed to conduct business meetings and work trainings. They were not immigrants, but were specialized employees who had been sent to train workers and then return to Korea. Yet when they were arrested, American law enforcement announced at their press conference that everyone they had arrested were illegal immigrants. THEY WERE NOT RELEASED, even though they were arrested in error. The Korean foreign minister had to come in person to the US to bring everyone back by charter plan at Korea's cost. And when you are deported, it is very, very unlikely that you are ever allowed on US soil ever again. So these are middle-class educated people like you or me who might have wanted to enjoy a US vacation or visit relatives in the US but cannot come here ever again. And they spent several very uncomfortable, scary days in jail for no good reason. Korea has been in upheaval ever since.

The USA is really making enemies of their ertwhile allies, and that's very bad for its geopolitical strategy, which in turn and in the long-run, will impact its economic influence and the wellbeing of its citizens.

If any country treated you in this way you would be in a state of shock, PP. This is not how a civilized nation treats others. And if you saw people around you being randomly treated this way, knowing your turn might be next, you'd live with a certain amount of fear.

Do not minimize the fear that people feel. It is very real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you are a visible minority, is it safe to go into DC? Also if you get approached by ICE what documents do you need as proof of citizenship? A driver's license is not necessarily proof that you're a citizen, so what do you actually need? Are you supposed to carry a passport at all times??

Just turn your pitbull on them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“visible minority”. ?!?!

OMG, grandma would you PLEASE STAY OFF THE INTERNET?!?!

What exactly is your problem? Shouldn't you still be at recess or in class?

What’s “my” problem, op? You are.

- you constantly throw Jeff’s rules back in his face by posting your political threads in Off Topic, even though you know better and have had your threads moved or deleted,

- you are trying to cause racial animosity for your political reasons (see first point), but worse

- even though you are white, you’re intentionally trying to intimidate and frighten BIPOC people (it hasn’t been “minorities” in decades BTW), and one might even say: put them in terror,

- what might we call someone (someone like you) who seeks to achieve their political goals by spreading terror? (racial terror in this case): a terrorist. That’s you.

So do us all a favor and take your terrorist schtick someplace other than DCUM, ok OP?

+1

Disagree. There are plenty of groups that have legitimate reasons and a whole lot of historical evidence to feel targeted. The entire international community in this area is stressed out. Since I'm on the wealthy, educated and/or diplomat end of that community, I can speak for them: we all have access to company lawyers or can pay for our own; we are all "legal" here, until ICE decides that we are not; but that still doesn't protect us from arrests and unfair consequences.

Two examples from my own knowledge:

1. A few months ago, two World Bank employees had their diplomatic visas confiscated when they were trying to return to the US after a business trip, which meant they were stuck at the border. Their kids go to Walter Johnson HS in North Bethesda. They had homes and pets and everything here. Can you imagine the stress, even though it all got sorted out in a few weeks? What are the kids supposed to do, huh? Neither employee had any immigration or criminal issues. It's just that their country of origin had displeased the Trump administration the week prior.

2. Dozens of Korean workers detained at the Hyundai plant in Georgia were actually legally allowed to be there, with the appropriate work visa, and were legally allowed to conduct business meetings and work trainings. They were not immigrants, but were specialized employees who had been sent to train workers and then return to Korea. Yet when they were arrested, American law enforcement announced at their press conference that everyone they had arrested were illegal immigrants. THEY WERE NOT RELEASED, even though they were arrested in error. The Korean foreign minister had to come in person to the US to bring everyone back by charter plan at Korea's cost. And when you are deported, it is very, very unlikely that you are ever allowed on US soil ever again. So these are middle-class educated people like you or me who might have wanted to enjoy a US vacation or visit relatives in the US but cannot come here ever again. And they spent several very uncomfortable, scary days in jail for no good reason. Korea has been in upheaval ever since.

The USA is really making enemies of their ertwhile allies, and that's very bad for its geopolitical strategy, which in turn and in the long-run, will impact its economic influence and the wellbeing of its citizens.

If any country treated you in this way you would be in a state of shock, PP. This is not how a civilized nation treats others. And if you saw people around you being randomly treated this way, knowing your turn might be next, you'd live with a certain amount of fear.

Do not minimize the fear that people feel. It is very real.

- except you are white and you created this thread merely to stoke fear for political reasons.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wait what I'm mixed black and white but look spanish. People frequently speak Spanish to me while I'm out and about and when I answer in English they look confused.

Are you saying that I can be detained just based on my looks even though I am a non Hispanic American Citizen? This is crazy

No, that's not a thing. Quit making up racist remarks like that.

This absolutely is a thing!

- Mom of mixed race kids who look Hispanic (but are not)

Seriously. The utter ridiculousness of the fake outrage posters on this thread.

I am Korean and my kids’ dad is white and we have been told my eldest can pass as Latino. He is tan and has a very racially ambiguous look, so could pass as other groups too. Just not full white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait what I'm mixed black and white but look spanish. People frequently speak Spanish to me while I'm out and about and when I answer in English they look confused.

Are you saying that I can be detained just based on my looks even though I am a non Hispanic American Citizen? This is crazy

No, that's not a thing. Quit making up racist remarks like that.

This absolutely is a thing!

- Mom of mixed race kids who look Hispanic (but are not)

Seriously. The utter ridiculousness of the fake outrage posters on this thread.

I am Korean and my kids’ dad is white and we have been told my eldest can pass as Latino. He is tan and has a very racially ambiguous look, so could pass as other groups too. Just not full white.

Im African and terrified fwiw. Most white people I know ow are saying I'm overreacting