Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It defies logic that anyone could think 3000 kids could go individually through 2 metal detectors (taking our their laptops and any metal) in 20 minutes. That simply defies the laws of physics and time/space.

Each school has much more than 2 detectors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At AHS, it took my children about 3 minutes tops on the days they had them. And one of them had stuff beep each time. If the kids act like they know what to do and follow directions, it's not awful.

That being said, I totally agree that it is performance theater. It will stop the kid who was going to just threaten with a weapon (with no intention to use it). If someone wants a mass shooting, I am sure they will figure a way around the detectors.

Is AHS Annandale HS? I don't understand how it could possibly take just 3 minutes.
Only 2 doors, 2 metal detectors total, getting thru 2500 kids between 7:40 and 8:05?

They only have 2000ish students at Annandale. That extra 1000 kids in 20 minutes at the mega schools makes a huge difference. They need to run more entrances and a lot more screeners but for some reason every single HS, no matter the size, only got two detectors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It defies logic that anyone could think 3000 kids could go individually through 2 metal detectors (taking our their laptops and any metal) in 20 minutes. That simply defies the laws of physics and time/space.

Each school has much more than 2 detectors.

What? No. This spring, they had ONE detector at the bus entrance and ONE at the other door for the parking lot/kiss and ride. Two total machines. Incredibly long lines.
(Unless they purchased a lot more over the summer).

[Anonymous]

In the world we live in we expect instant gratification. People, especially younger, don't know how to wait for things. Yes, there might be delays but as with anything new, there will be a transition time. I have heard from school staff and parents who are at schools who already have detectors, that it takes about a week or two for everyone to get used to them and then it moves quick. So why is everyone freaking out about our poor kids having to wait in line, instead of thinking of the bigger picture, now our kids will be safer!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It defies logic that anyone could think 3000 kids could go individually through 2 metal detectors (taking our their laptops and any metal) in 20 minutes. That simply defies the laws of physics and time/space.

Each school has much more than 2 detectors.

What? No. This spring, they had ONE detector at the bus entrance and ONE at the other door for the parking lot/kiss and ride. Two total machines. Incredibly long lines.
(Unless they purchased a lot more over the summer).

Yes, that was the PILOT proram. They will have more detectors at every school for this school year. I was told this directly from a school administrator at a secondary school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It defies logic that anyone could think 3000 kids could go individually through 2 metal detectors (taking our their laptops and any metal) in 20 minutes. That simply defies the laws of physics and time/space.

Each school has much more than 2 detectors.

last year was two so how many

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At AHS, it took my children about 3 minutes tops on the days they had them. And one of them had stuff beep each time. If the kids act like they know what to do and follow directions, it's not awful.

That being said, I totally agree that it is performance theater. It will stop the kid who was going to just threaten with a weapon (with no intention to use it). If someone wants a mass shooting, I am sure they will figure a way around the detectors.

Is AHS Annandale HS? I don't understand how it could possibly take just 3 minutes.
Only 2 doors, 2 metal detectors total, getting thru 2500 kids between 7:40 and 8:05?

They only have 2000ish students at Annandale. That extra 1000 kids in 20 minutes at the mega schools makes a huge difference. They need to run more entrances and a lot more screeners but for some reason every single HS, no matter the size, only got two detectors.

They had 2 metal detectors because it was the PILOT program: https://www.fcps.edu/news/fairfax-county-public-schools-pilot-weapons-detection-system-high-schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the world we live in we expect instant gratification. People, especially younger, don't know how to wait for things. Yes, there might be delays but as with anything new, there will be a transition time. I have heard from school staff and parents who are at schools who already have detectors, that it takes about a week or two for everyone to get used to them and then it moves quick. So why is everyone freaking out about our poor kids having to wait in line, instead of thinking of the bigger picture, now our kids will be safer!

They won't be safer, though. They aren't making everyone who enters or leaves the building all day long go through metal detectors, so anyone can still get a weapon into the building. How do you not understand that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It defies logic that anyone could think 3000 kids could go individually through 2 metal detectors (taking our their laptops and any metal) in 20 minutes. That simply defies the laws of physics and time/space.

Each school has much more than 2 detectors.

last year was two so how many

I have it on good authority that Hayfield will have 11. I would imagine Secondary Schools will have more than High Schools, but HS will definitely have more than 2. Wait and see!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the world we live in we expect instant gratification. People, especially younger, don't know how to wait for things. Yes, there might be delays but as with anything new, there will be a transition time. I have heard from school staff and parents who are at schools who already have detectors, that it takes about a week or two for everyone to get used to them and then it moves quick. So why is everyone freaking out about our poor kids having to wait in line, instead of thinking of the bigger picture, now our kids will be safer!

They won't be safer, though. They aren't making everyone who enters or leaves the building all day long go through metal detectors, so anyone can still get a weapon into the building. How do you not understand that?

How do you not understand that some protection is better than no protection? How do you know they won't be using them during the day? Where did you read that?

[Anonymous]

How many more per school? How many more doors will be opened during arrival? How many staff will be stationed to supervise?

Westfield had ENORMOUS delays with two detectors and two doors. They would need at least ten detectors and several more doors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the world we live in we expect instant gratification. People, especially younger, don't know how to wait for things. Yes, there might be delays but as with anything new, there will be a transition time. I have heard from school staff and parents who are at schools who already have detectors, that it takes about a week or two for everyone to get used to them and then it moves quick. So why is everyone freaking out about our poor kids having to wait in line, instead of thinking of the bigger picture, now our kids will be safer!

They won't be safer, though. They aren't making everyone who enters or leaves the building all day long go through metal detectors, so anyone can still get a weapon into the building. How do you not understand that?

And schools are open to public all night

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the world we live in we expect instant gratification. People, especially younger, don't know how to wait for things. Yes, there might be delays but as with anything new, there will be a transition time. I have heard from school staff and parents who are at schools who already have detectors, that it takes about a week or two for everyone to get used to them and then it moves quick. So why is everyone freaking out about our poor kids having to wait in line, instead of thinking of the bigger picture, now our kids will be safer!

They won't be safer, though. They aren't making everyone who enters or leaves the building all day long go through metal detectors, so anyone can still get a weapon into the building. How do you not understand that?

How do you not understand that some protection is better than no protection? How do you know they won't be using them during the day? Where did you read that?

During the pilot, the scanners were run only during student arrival, 7:40-8:however long the line was. Before or after, anyone could stroll into the school with a weapon.

Do you think FCPS hired full time staff to sit at metal detectors all day long?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How many more per school? How many more doors will be opened during arrival? How many staff will be stationed to supervise?

Westfield had ENORMOUS delays with two detectors and two doors. They would need at least ten detectors and several more doors.

So the person who knows all.....how many at Westfield and Chantilly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the world we live in we expect instant gratification. People, especially younger, don't know how to wait for things. Yes, there might be delays but as with anything new, there will be a transition time. I have heard from school staff and parents who are at schools who already have detectors, that it takes about a week or two for everyone to get used to them and then it moves quick. So why is everyone freaking out about our poor kids having to wait in line, instead of thinking of the bigger picture, now our kids will be safer!

They won't be safer, though. They aren't making everyone who enters or leaves the building all day long go through metal detectors, so anyone can still get a weapon into the building. How do you not understand that?

And schools are open to public all night

Yep, anyone could hide a gun in a building at any point to be retrieved later. No one is safer. Its a show.