Will school weapon detections cause class time delay?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weapon screening systems have been used in some neighboring school districts for a while. Maybe 30 minutes extra social time in the morning for students is not that bad?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/alexandria/students-face-long-lines-on-first-day-of-weapons-detection-scanners-alexandria-city-high-school/65-5f0fde77-8ed0-4186-a9cd-20195d1c8318

Are you thinking 30 minutes before the doors open?

I am guess approvimately 30 min waiting time?
"One #ACHS student told me they waited in line 30 minutes to get inside the building this morning" ----from the report.
Student may need to wear thick coat in winter though.

[Anonymous]

They need more machines then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s all theatre of course, because the truth is that there isn’t a quick easy solution to solve school shootings.

Well there are better solutions but Americans want guns guns guns....and no one really seems to care about the children. So here we are kids waiting outside of school for an hour to check a box is the not the answer. The best part is all these schools have strangers in and out of buildings all evening. Think real hard why this is theater.

It is a mental health issue first and foremost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the kids and their laptops will just get wet on pouring rain days?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weapon screening systems have been used in some neighboring school districts for a while. Maybe 30 minutes extra social time in the morning for students is not that bad?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/alexandria/students-face-long-lines-on-first-day-of-weapons-detection-scanners-alexandria-city-high-school/65-5f0fde77-8ed0-4186-a9cd-20195d1c8318

Are you thinking 30 minutes before the doors open?

I am guess approvimately 30 min waiting time?
"One #ACHS student told me they waited in line 30 minutes to get inside the building this morning" ----from the report.
Student may need to wear thick coat in winter though.

Their school probably has more metal detectors than 2 for 3000 students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Westfield had huge delays in spring when they tried this AND it was when all the seniors were off campus.

They had two doors/two screeners total. Kids were an hour late to class every day.

The buses held kids on the bus until the pre-screening let-off time then they all got off at once and got in line. It made no sense.

The one police officer who directs the traffic for the whole school was pulled to assist.

I can't imagine what the lines will
Look like with 2700+ kids and two screeners.

PWC school have much lower populations and a lot more screeners.0

DD goes to Westfield. She said the screening added a couple of minutes to her delay. I dropped her off daily, and there were a couple of days maybe where the lines were long. The traffic cop wasn't pulled off to assist more than a handful of times. If your kid is telling you that the security screening made them an hour late to class, you need to have a chat with them about that.

This is not true. Why are you lying? I drove my dc every day, dc was there on time, and he waited a LONG time every day. Friends whose dc took the bus reported same. Kids were regularly 45-60 min late to his first period. The one day it was raining, they canceled the screening (I guess school shooters stay home when it rains).

I'm only telling you about my DD's experience, and mine, since I drove her daily as well. We were never early; she probably would've been late without the screening some days (by a couple of minutes; her first period teacher was insistent that the student's entire body be inside the classroom when the bell rang). She was never more than a few minutes late, even with the screening.

I hate their drop off line, though. It's a hot mess. So towards the end of the school year, would swing through the entrance by the rec center and drop her off in the parking lot there, right by the car line. Vastly better than sitting in the long line of cars.

[Anonymous]

At AHS, it took my children about 3 minutes tops on the days they had them. And one of them had stuff beep each time. If the kids act like they know what to do and follow directions, it's not awful.

That being said, I totally agree that it is performance theater. It will stop the kid who was going to just threaten with a weapon (with no intention to use it). If someone wants a mass shooting, I am sure they will figure a way around the detectors.

[Anonymous]

I also have a kid at AHS that was consistently marked late to class during the pilot because her bus was always running behind. School emails stressed that it was on the kids to "plan ahead" to avoid being marked tardy, but what can you do if you're reliant on an FCPS bus to get you to school that routinely runs late?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weapon screening systems have been used in some neighboring school districts for a while. Maybe 30 minutes extra social time in the morning for students is not that bad?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/alexandria/students-face-long-lines-on-first-day-of-weapons-detection-scanners-alexandria-city-high-school/65-5f0fde77-8ed0-4186-a9cd-20195d1c8318

BS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Westfield had huge delays in spring when they tried this AND it was when all the seniors were off campus.

They had two doors/two screeners total. Kids were an hour late to class every day.

The buses held kids on the bus until the pre-screening let-off time then they all got off at once and got in line. It made no sense.

The one police officer who directs the traffic for the whole school was pulled to assist.

I can't imagine what the lines will
Look like with 2700+ kids and two screeners.

PWC school have much lower populations and a lot more screeners.0

DD goes to Westfield. She said the screening added a couple of minutes to her delay. I dropped her off daily, and there were a couple of days maybe where the lines were long. The traffic cop wasn't pulled off to assist more than a handful of times. If your kid is telling you that the security screening made them an hour late to class, you need to have a chat with them about that.

This is not true. Why are you lying? I drove my dc every day, dc was there on time, and he waited a LONG time every day. Friends whose dc took the bus reported same. Kids were regularly 45-60 min late to his first period. The one day it was raining, they canceled the screening (I guess school shooters stay home when it rains).

I'm only telling you about my DD's experience, and mine, since I drove her daily as well. We were never early; she probably would've been late without the screening some days (by a couple of minutes; her first period teacher was insistent that the student's entire body be inside the classroom when the bell rang). She was never more than a few minutes late, even with the screening.

I hate their drop off line, though. It's a hot mess. So towards the end of the school year, would swing through the entrance by the rec center and drop her off in the parking lot there, right by the car line. Vastly better than sitting in the long line of cars.

Well she must have friends working the door because my kid wasn't late and was waiting every day. Whatever your DD did tell her to spread the word because everyone I know struggles with the lines and being marked absent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weapon screening systems have been used in some neighboring school districts for a while. Maybe 30 minutes extra social time in the morning for students is not that bad?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/alexandria/students-face-long-lines-on-first-day-of-weapons-detection-scanners-alexandria-city-high-school/65-5f0fde77-8ed0-4186-a9cd-20195d1c8318

Are you thinking 30 minutes before the doors open?

I am guess approvimately 30 min waiting time?
"One #ACHS student told me they waited in line 30 minutes to get inside the building this morning" ----from the report.
Student may need to wear thick coat in winter though.

Their school probably has more metal detectors than 2 for 3000 students.

This

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At AHS, it took my children about 3 minutes tops on the days they had them. And one of them had stuff beep each time. If the kids act like they know what to do and follow directions, it's not awful.

That being said, I totally agree that it is performance theater. It will stop the kid who was going to just threaten with a weapon (with no intention to use it). If someone wants a mass shooting, I am sure they will figure a way around the detectors.

Yes, they don’t have to worry about getting the weapon inside at all. They can just drive by and mow down all of their classmates waiting in line for the metal detectors. Such stupid security theater.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, of course the metal detectors will cause delays and put kids at risk.

3000 students trying to filter through 3 doors with backpack inspections is going to result in hundreds to thousands of kids clustered outside the schools for 20-30 minutes each morning.

Rainy days are going to be awful.

Our principals and security team usually direct the extensive drop off traffic in the mornings. This takes a minimum of 8 principals and admin. Who is going to do the morning traffic management? The remaining admins and counselors, who usually patrol the common areas for trouble? Did FCPS account for the other safety roles school leadership is already committed to during morning drop off?

FCPS also cut funds for crossing guards. That is a huge risk for students, far bigger than what the metal detectors are supposed to prevent. How quickly into the start of the year will we hear of a FCPS student getting hit or killed by a rushing morning commuter due to the removal of crossing guards from the schools?

This is NOT a well thought out policy.

Honestly, I would rather have crossing guards at all the schools than metal detectors at the high schools and middle schools.

Agree.

Not only is this poorly thought-out, it’s expensive and entirely unnecessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At AHS, it took my children about 3 minutes tops on the days they had them. And one of them had stuff beep each time. If the kids act like they know what to do and follow directions, it's not awful.

That being said, I totally agree that it is performance theater. It will stop the kid who was going to just threaten with a weapon (with no intention to use it). If someone wants a mass shooting, I am sure they will figure a way around the detectors.

Is AHS Annandale HS? I don't understand how it could possibly take just 3 minutes.
Only 2 doors, 2 metal detectors total, getting thru 2500 kids between 7:40 and 8:05?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weapon screening systems have been used in some neighboring school districts for a while. Maybe 30 minutes extra social time in the morning for students is not that bad?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/alexandria/students-face-long-lines-on-first-day-of-weapons-detection-scanners-alexandria-city-high-school/65-5f0fde77-8ed0-4186-a9cd-20195d1c8318

Are you thinking 30 minutes before the doors open?

I am guess approvimately 30 min waiting time?
"One #ACHS student told me they waited in line 30 minutes to get inside the building this morning" ----from the report.
Student may need to wear thick coat in winter though.

Their school probably has more metal detectors than 2 for 3000 students.

This

High schoolers don't wear coats because they don't have/use lockers.