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Anonymous wrote:Everybody in here talks about “good” stem classes, but that’s just window shopping. You need to get to brass tacks.

Most med schools now require applicants to go through a med school coordinator at their (student’s) university. So you want a school with a very very well staffed career/postgrad services office. Some SLACs don’t even have their own, they split one coordinator. I’ve seen it work, but it doesn’t always.

Other big consideration is access to lab and hospital volunteer opportunities. These are de facto requirements for applicants and surprisingly hard to do. For ex, in DC hospitals do intake for volunteers once a year and have very limited spots. So if you’re in a college town with one hospital, good luck.

Doesn't add up with SLAC outcomes at top med schools.

SLAC is a huge category. Both can be true. Some small SLACS do not have a lot of resources to dedicate to this. Some do very well in admissions. Both songs could even be true of one school. Like I said, the sharing model can work, and it’s just one example of how this can be set up—there are a million others.

FWIW, I went to a SLAC that used a shared counselor and had several classmates go to med school. I am a believer in SLACS.

Oh so you just bended the conversation so it could fit your reality. No one is bringing up LACs like Agnes Scott; they're talking about the top ones, duh. This is like saying UMinnesota Duluth doesn't have a good premed program, no crap.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Med school like law school where the #1 feeder is the undergraduate school?

Med school not like law school

1/3 of Emory med school went to Emory undergrad.

I don’t think you are correct.

That’s a lot. Is that a good thing? No cross fertilization of students?

I don’t know…but it certainly implies that med schools favor their own undergrads.

Perhaps the undergrads get to know the med school staff that makes admission decisions?

No it doesn't?

So 1/3 of a med schools comes from its own undergrad…and it means nothing?

Please…expound.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Med school like law school where the #1 feeder is the undergraduate school?

Med school not like law school

1/3 of Emory med school went to Emory undergrad.

I don’t think you are correct.

That’s a lot. Is that a good thing? No cross fertilization of students?

I don’t know…but it certainly implies that med schools favor their own undergrads.

Perhaps the undergrads get to know the med school staff that makes admission decisions?

No it doesn't?

I think it does. I thought it was around 5% or so but 1/3 is really high. But, nevertheless, I think it does.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a premed at Brown, they didn’t get into PLME and now think it’s a blessing. They love the school and Providence, but want to apply out. It is an incredible way to go through though, they get a lot of support and a lot less grade pressure with no MCAT. Those chosen seem to have compelling stories, my unhooked with perfect stats, loads of leadership, research, EMT and so on didn’t cut it. The classes are very rigorous and vast majority skip intro classes. MCAT scores are very high and don’t need as much prep time due to class difficulty. The premeds don’t take classes S/NC unless it’s the occasional English class that is mandatory S/NC. Haven’t applied yet, but they’ve had great experience. Met with advising starting as a first year and meet whenever they have a question or have a need.

PLME is beneficial talent for brown. They need those kids more than those kids need brown. The type of person who gets into PLME would probably get into Harvard Med or Stanford Med, but brown gets to hold onto that talent with guaranteed med school.

Yeah sure, if they are that talented, how come Brown med school is never in T20? PLME's been around for many many years.

To PPP. I agree with your assessment (i.e., "they didn't get into PLME..."). If your kid is high performing, I'd not want to lock them up in one program. They can try for UCSF, Hopkins, Harvard...etc.

Agreed. Brown is not T20. The top kids with academic goals or elite subspeciality goals are better off not locking in.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a premed at Brown, they didn’t get into PLME and now think it’s a blessing. They love the school and Providence, but want to apply out. It is an incredible way to go through though, they get a lot of support and a lot less grade pressure with no MCAT. Those chosen seem to have compelling stories, my unhooked with perfect stats, loads of leadership, research, EMT and so on didn’t cut it. The classes are very rigorous and vast majority skip intro classes. MCAT scores are very high and don’t need as much prep time due to class difficulty. The premeds don’t take classes S/NC unless it’s the occasional English class that is mandatory S/NC. Haven’t applied yet, but they’ve had great experience. Met with advising starting as a first year and meet whenever they have a question or have a need.

PLME is beneficial talent for brown. They need those kids more than those kids need brown. The type of person who gets into PLME would probably get into Harvard Med or Stanford Med, but brown gets to hold onto that talent with guaranteed med school.

Yeah sure, if they are that talented, how come Brown med school is never in T20? PLME's been around for many many years.

To PPP. I agree with your assessment (i.e., "they didn't get into PLME..."). If your kid is high performing, I'd not want to lock them up in one program. They can try for UCSF, Hopkins, Harvard...etc.

Because that’s not how med school rankings work? Apologies, but who are you and what do you know about med school?

LOL. Who am I? Just a parent w/ two kids that went thru the process. 1 in med school, another in residency.

I just asked. That’s good, so you should know that med school rankings aren’t just MCAT/GPA rankings.

I'd argue med school rankings have very little to do with students MCAP/GPA rankings. What bothers me is that some posters here keep repeating "unless you are in Ivy/Top 10, your kids are screwed" message which I don't agree with. You can get to med school from any public or private schools. Just go to each med school's website and check students' profile (most of med schools show which college they are from). Even in Top medical programs, you will see a lot of state school kids (and some no name schools). It's what you do in college, not the name of the college.

For those targeting TOP med schools undergrad matters. My T5 med school was 1/3 ivy/T15/williams/amherst and another 1/3 from the rest of the T30 privates and T10 publics. The rest were a few from hbcus, lower slacs and T100 type publics. It still has around the same ratios today. Yes you can get in from a T100 but it is not nearly as likely especially without demographic hooks

[Anonymous]

How about Boston University? There are major hospitals nearby and a lot of research/intern/shadowing opportunities.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Med school like law school where the #1 feeder is the undergraduate school?

Med school not like law school

1/3 of Emory med school went to Emory undergrad.

I don’t think you are correct.

That’s a lot. Is that a good thing? No cross fertilization of students?

I don’t know…but it certainly implies that med schools favor their own undergrads.

Perhaps the undergrads get to know the med school staff that makes admission decisions?

No it doesn't?

So 1/3 of a med schools comes from its own undergrad…and it means nothing?

Please…expound.

A single med school. Most top med schools are not like this. You also didn't post a source, so I'm privy not to believe you. 1/3 is ridiculously high.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Med school like law school where the #1 feeder is the undergraduate school?

Med school not like law school

1/3 of Emory med school went to Emory undergrad.

I don’t think you are correct.

That’s a lot. Is that a good thing? No cross fertilization of students?

I don’t know…but it certainly implies that med schools favor their own undergrads.

Perhaps the undergrads get to know the med school staff that makes admission decisions?

No it doesn't?

I think it does. I thought it was around 5% or so but 1/3 is really high. But, nevertheless, I think it does.

Now find the source. Don't trust random internet people to make your opinions for you.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Med school like law school where the #1 feeder is the undergraduate school?

Med school not like law school

1/3 of Emory med school went to Emory undergrad.

I don’t think you are correct.

That’s a lot. Is that a good thing? No cross fertilization of students?

I don’t know…but it certainly implies that med schools favor their own undergrads.

Perhaps the undergrads get to know the med school staff that makes admission decisions?

No it doesn't?

I think it does. I thought it was around 5% or so but 1/3 is really high. But, nevertheless, I think it does.

Now find the source. Don't trust random internet people to make your opinions for you.

You are oddly weird.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a premed at Brown, they didn’t get into PLME and now think it’s a blessing. They love the school and Providence, but want to apply out. It is an incredible way to go through though, they get a lot of support and a lot less grade pressure with no MCAT. Those chosen seem to have compelling stories, my unhooked with perfect stats, loads of leadership, research, EMT and so on didn’t cut it. The classes are very rigorous and vast majority skip intro classes. MCAT scores are very high and don’t need as much prep time due to class difficulty. The premeds don’t take classes S/NC unless it’s the occasional English class that is mandatory S/NC. Haven’t applied yet, but they’ve had great experience. Met with advising starting as a first year and meet whenever they have a question or have a need.

PLME is beneficial talent for brown. They need those kids more than those kids need brown. The type of person who gets into PLME would probably get into Harvard Med or Stanford Med, but brown gets to hold onto that talent with guaranteed med school.

Yeah sure, if they are that talented, how come Brown med school is never in T20? PLME's been around for many many years.

To PPP. I agree with your assessment (i.e., "they didn't get into PLME..."). If your kid is high performing, I'd not want to lock them up in one program. They can try for UCSF, Hopkins, Harvard...etc.

Because that’s not how med school rankings work? Apologies, but who are you and what do you know about med school?

LOL. Who am I? Just a parent w/ two kids that went thru the process. 1 in med school, another in residency.

I just asked. That’s good, so you should know that med school rankings aren’t just MCAT/GPA rankings.

I'd argue med school rankings have very little to do with students MCAP/GPA rankings. What bothers me is that some posters here keep repeating "unless you are in Ivy/Top 10, your kids are screwed" message which I don't agree with. You can get to med school from any public or private schools. Just go to each med school's website and check students' profile (most of med schools show which college they are from). Even in Top medical programs, you will see a lot of state school kids (and some no name schools). It's what you do in college, not the name of the college.

For those targeting TOP med schools undergrad matters. My T5 med school was 1/3 ivy/T15/williams/amherst and another 1/3 from the rest of the T30 privates and T10 publics. The rest were a few from hbcus, lower slacs and T100 type publics. It still has around the same ratios today. Yes you can get in from a T100 but it is not nearly as likely especially without demographic hooks

Medical school is not law school, you dont need to go to a top medical school. Doesn't matter if its MD or DO either.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Med school like law school where the #1 feeder is the undergraduate school?

Med school not like law school

1/3 of Emory med school went to Emory undergrad.

I don’t think you are correct.

That’s a lot. Is that a good thing? No cross fertilization of students?

I don’t know…but it certainly implies that med schools favor their own undergrads.

Perhaps the undergrads get to know the med school staff that makes admission decisions?

No it doesn't?

I think it does. I thought it was around 5% or so but 1/3 is really high. But, nevertheless, I think it does.

Now find the source. Don't trust random internet people to make your opinions for you.

You are oddly weird.

And you follow random people online who make up claims with no evidence. No where on brown's med school page does it mention 1/3 of the class being brown undergraduates. I'd recommend learning to be an independent person, before trying to critique others.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Med school like law school where the #1 feeder is the undergraduate school?

Med school not like law school

1/3 of Emory med school went to Emory undergrad.

I don’t think you are correct.

That’s a lot. Is that a good thing? No cross fertilization of students?

I don’t know…but it certainly implies that med schools favor their own undergrads.

Perhaps the undergrads get to know the med school staff that makes admission decisions?

No it doesn't?

I think it does. I thought it was around 5% or so but 1/3 is really high. But, nevertheless, I think it does.

Now find the source. Don't trust random internet people to make your opinions for you.

You are oddly weird.

And you follow random people online who make up claims with no evidence. No where on brown's med school page does it mention 1/3 of the class being brown undergraduates. I'd recommend learning to be an independent person, before trying to critique others.

*emory not brown. The point still stands.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Med school like law school where the #1 feeder is the undergraduate school?

Med school not like law school

1/3 of Emory med school went to Emory undergrad.

I don’t think you are correct.

That’s a lot. Is that a good thing? No cross fertilization of students?

I don’t know…but it certainly implies that med schools favor their own undergrads.

Perhaps the undergrads get to know the med school staff that makes admission decisions?

No it doesn't?

I think it does. I thought it was around 5% or so but 1/3 is really high. But, nevertheless, I think it does.

Now find the source. Don't trust random internet people to make your opinions for you.

You are oddly weird.

And you follow random people online who make up claims with no evidence. No where on brown's med school page does it mention 1/3 of the class being brown undergraduates. I'd recommend learning to be an independent person, before trying to critique others.

Maybe check Emory’s website vs brown?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is Med school like law school where the #1 feeder is the undergraduate school?

Med school not like law school

1/3 of Emory med school went to Emory undergrad.

I don’t think you are correct.

That’s a lot. Is that a good thing? No cross fertilization of students?

I don’t know…but it certainly implies that med schools favor their own undergrads.

Perhaps the undergrads get to know the med school staff that makes admission decisions?

No it doesn't?

I think it does. I thought it was around 5% or so but 1/3 is really high. But, nevertheless, I think it does.

Now find the source. Don't trust random internet people to make your opinions for you.

You are oddly weird.

And you follow random people online who make up claims with no evidence. No where on brown's med school page does it mention 1/3 of the class being brown undergraduates. I'd recommend learning to be an independent person, before trying to critique others.

You mean random people online…like you?

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Anonymous wrote:U of Michigan would be our in-state choice and a likely admission.

Since UMich is your instate, I would just go there. There are ton of research and volunteer in Ann Arbor. It has medical school. Why would you want to pay 60K to 80K when you can do it half the cost in state at UMich. You can use the money save for Medical School.