Can we FINALLY put to rest the idea most Americans want MAGA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You lost all seven swing states.

Have a nice day, progressives. :wink:

Swing state Trump voter here. Who voted for Obama twice. I know people on DCUM claim we don't exist but the numbers clearly show otherwise. And besides, how dare anyone challenge my "lived experience."

Trump may be a esthetically unpalatable but the other choice started out being someone who is literally dead. Then they installed someone who spoke like her brain chip was glitching.

So by default I'm MAGA.

You didn’t vote for Obama twice. And the irony of your second paragraph is palpable.

Trump has dementia, dude. He sundowns daily. He can’t string a logical sentence together. And he’s a frail old man with an even more fragile ego.

So on the off chance you are not lying, well, you’re just a gullible idiot.

You do realize Obama won two elections thanks to the same swing voters who foolishly swung towards Trump twice as well?? Or do you just not understand how politics and swing states work? At least you're smart enough to understand why 80 year people shouldn't be POTUS.

Of course everyone realizes that. PP said “gullible idiot”, you said “foolish(ly)”. Tomayto, tomahto.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maga is a small part of the republican party. The majority of those who voted for 47 got sick of the dictator of the autopen with vaccine mandates, spending like drunken sailors and no clear message. The Republicans may lose the House in 2026, however JD will be 48th thanks in part to curbing spending and another false impeachment.

Vaccine mandates is such a moronic take.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think most Americans are MAGA. But I definitely think most Americans don’t want what the Democrats are selling. They need to move way, way more center and drop the “progressive” agenda to win again.

I agree that the Democrats should move more center but, building on your point, Americans don't want want the GOP/MAGA is selling either. They need to move more center as well. The Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028 as the political pendulum naturally swings.

The center doesn’t necessarily mean status quo, incremental change at the margins though. It actually might mean bold proposals that make life better for people in the center of the bell curve.

But the democrat way to “make life better” is to increase things the government provides. Free this, free that, etc. I think most people don’t want to see a bunch of social programs ran by the government (at the expense of those that pay taxes).

The function of government is to provide services and programs that individuals can’t provide on their own. I’m happy to pay taxes so we can have national parks and accurate weather forecasting. The majority of Americans like Social Security and Medicare. Do you want the full burden of caring for your elderly parents for 20+ years?

I have a crazy idea.

I know that it seems nuts, but what if we tax all of the hyper rich in an appropriate manner? We could tax wealth and income at a much higher rate and still probably be way lower than most 1st world countries, then use that money to benefit Americans.

It wouldn't go to benefit Americans. The government would use it to extend healthcare to the bottom rung of society, triggering another tidal wave of illegal immigration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maga is a small part of the republican party. The majority of those who voted for 47 got sick of the dictator of the autopen with vaccine mandates, spending like drunken sailors and no clear message. The Republicans may lose the House in 2026, however JD will be 48th thanks in part to curbing spending and another false impeachment.

No it is the Republicans party. They are hate filled people who wish to harm everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The election was NOT an endorsement of RW policies or Trump. It was a vote against the incumbent party, the same thing happening all over the world! Yes, we have way too many bigots and racist people citizens. But yesterday proved that a huge majority do not want what Trump is selling.

Humans are complicated. We can’t deduce a person down to one vote. But yesterday, millions of Americans came out to show their disapproval. And look at the images. These aren’t “radical, socialist, Democrats.”

I’m sure MAGA will try to spin some fanciful tale, but we all saw the pitiful fascist parade vs. the MILLIONS of everyday people, from small “red” towns to big “blue” cities coming together to show their love of country(lots of 🇺🇸) and their opposition to MAGA.

Correct. Any political scientist will tell you the 2024 POTUS race was lost by Joe Biden. There were no winners. Only losers.

OP here. I agree. Biden and his team landed us here. Not just because he ran again, but because he did NOTHING to stop the slide into fascism. They naively thought people would reward them for good policies and operated like they were in the West Wing. Plus Gaza.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think most Americans are MAGA. But I definitely think most Americans don’t want what the Democrats are selling. They need to move way, way more center and drop the “progressive” agenda to win again.

I agree that the Democrats should move more center but, building on your point, Americans don't want want the GOP/MAGA is selling either. They need to move more center as well. The Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028 as the political pendulum naturally swings.

The center doesn’t necessarily mean status quo, incremental change at the margins though. It actually might mean bold proposals that make life better for people in the center of the bell curve.

But the democrat way to “make life better” is to increase things the government provides. Free this, free that, etc. I think most people don’t want to see a bunch of social programs ran by the government (at the expense of those that pay taxes).

The function of government is to provide services and programs that individuals can’t provide on their own. I’m happy to pay taxes so we can have national parks and accurate weather forecasting. The majority of Americans like Social Security and Medicare. Do you want the full burden of caring for your elderly parents for 20+ years?

I have a crazy idea.

I know that it seems nuts, but what if we tax all of the hyper rich in an appropriate manner? We could tax wealth and income at a much higher rate and still probably be way lower than most 1st world countries, then use that money to benefit Americans.

It wouldn't go to benefit Americans. The government would use it to extend healthcare to the bottom rung of society, triggering another tidal wave of illegal immigration.

More misinformation. Just stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think most Americans are MAGA. But I definitely think most Americans don’t want what the Democrats are selling. They need to move way, way more center and drop the “progressive” agenda to win again.

I agree that the Democrats should move more center but, building on your point, Americans don't want want the GOP/MAGA is selling either. They need to move more center as well. The Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028 as the political pendulum naturally swings.

The center doesn’t necessarily mean status quo, incremental change at the margins though. It actually might mean bold proposals that make life better for people in the center of the bell curve.

But the democrat way to “make life better” is to increase things the government provides. Free this, free that, etc. I think most people don’t want to see a bunch of social programs ran by the government (at the expense of those that pay taxes).

Please understand what is happening. It is the red states that get all the freebies that blue states pay for. What did your vote get you? A 79 year old walking dead President and a criminal cabinet who blew the deficit up higher. Wars aren’t ending. Deficit isn’t decreasing. Taxes aren’t decreasing. Inflation isn’t decreasing. The only thing decreasing is our ALLIES.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The election was NOT an endorsement of RW policies or Trump. It was a vote against the incumbent party, the same thing happening all over the world! Yes, we have way too many bigots and racist people citizens. But yesterday proved that a huge majority do not want what Trump is selling.

Humans are complicated. We can’t deduce a person down to one vote. But yesterday, millions of Americans came out to show their disapproval. And look at the images. These aren’t “radical, socialist, Democrats.”

I’m sure MAGA will try to spin some fanciful tale, but we all saw the pitiful fascist parade vs. the MILLIONS of everyday people, from small “red” towns to big “blue” cities coming together to show their love of country(lots of 🇺🇸) and their opposition to MAGA.

Correct. Any political scientist will tell you the 2024 POTUS race was lost by Joe Biden. There were no winners. Only losers.

OP here. I agree. Biden and his team landed us here. Not just because he ran again, but because he did NOTHING to stop the slide into fascism. They naively thought people would reward them for good policies and operated like they were in the West Wing. Plus Gaza.

I agree with you and with what Jon Stewart said about this matter- When the opponent is as awful as Trump and is easily beatable by any normal POTUS candidate, you hire a Clinton or an Obama who will easily beat him once and then twice if the opposition is stupid enough to run the easily beatable awful candidate again. You don't hire a bumbling, fumbling 80 year old who is just going to gift The White House back to the awful opponent in four years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think most Americans are MAGA. But I definitely think most Americans don’t want what the Democrats are selling. They need to move way, way more center and drop the “progressive” agenda to win again.

I agree that the Democrats should move more center but, building on your point, Americans don't want want the GOP/MAGA is selling either. They need to move more center as well. The Democrats will win in 2026 and 2028 as the political pendulum naturally swings.

The center doesn’t necessarily mean status quo, incremental change at the margins though. It actually might mean bold proposals that make life better for people in the center of the bell curve.

But the democrat way to “make life better” is to increase things the government provides. Free this, free that, etc. I think most people don’t want to see a bunch of social programs ran by the government (at the expense of those that pay taxes).

The function of government is to provide services and programs that individuals can’t provide on their own. I’m happy to pay taxes so we can have national parks and accurate weather forecasting. The majority of Americans like Social Security and Medicare. Do you want the full burden of caring for your elderly parents for 20+ years?

I have a crazy idea.

I know that it seems nuts, but what if we tax all of the hyper rich in an appropriate manner? We could tax wealth and income at a much higher rate and still probably be way lower than most 1st world countries, then use that money to benefit Americans.

It wouldn't go to benefit Americans. The government would use it to extend healthcare to the bottom rung of society, triggering another tidal wave of illegal immigration.

Is this the actual MAGA objection to health care reform? Does that extend to anything else we might do to improve life for the non-rich? Can’t do it because it would trigger more immigration?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You lost all seven swing states.

Have a nice day, progressives. :wink:

Swing state Trump voter here. Who voted for Obama twice. I know people on DCUM claim we don't exist but the numbers clearly show otherwise. And besides, how dare anyone challenge my "lived experience."

Trump may be a esthetically unpalatable but the other choice started out being someone who is literally dead. Then they installed someone who spoke like her brain chip was glitching.

So by default I'm MAGA.

You lose all credibility when you say things like that about Harris.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Maga is a small part of the republican party. The majority of those who voted for 47 got sick of the dictator of the autopen with vaccine mandates, spending like drunken sailors and no clear message. The Republicans may lose the House in 2026, however JD will be 48th thanks in part to curbing spending and another false impeachment.

No it is the Republicans party. They are hate filled people who wish to harm everyone.

Agree. If it was small, we wouldn’t have the crappy Republicans in Congress who won’t stand up for the people and the Constitution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You lost all seven swing states.

Have a nice day, progressives. :wink:

Swing state Trump voter here. Who voted for Obama twice. I know people on DCUM claim we don't exist but the numbers clearly show otherwise. And besides, how dare anyone challenge my "lived experience."

Trump may be a esthetically unpalatable but the other choice started out being someone who is literally dead. Then they installed someone who spoke like her brain chip was glitching.

So by default I'm MAGA.

You lose all credibility when you say things like that about Harris.

+100

Anyone who can't see the obvious difference in fitness and intelligence between Harris and our two most recent elderly presidents has absolutely zero credibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You lost all seven swing states.

Have a nice day, progressives.

Naw. It’s been heavily suggested by Elon himself that they hacked the computers and stole the election.

People are saying...

Elon is saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The election was NOT an endorsement of RW policies or Trump. It was a vote against the incumbent party, the same thing happening all over the world! Yes, we have way too many bigots and racist people citizens. But yesterday proved that a huge majority do not want what Trump is selling.

Humans are complicated. We can’t deduce a person down to one vote. But yesterday, millions of Americans came out to show their disapproval. And look at the images. These aren’t “radical, socialist, Democrats.”

I’m sure MAGA will try to spin some fanciful tale, but we all saw the pitiful fascist parade vs. the MILLIONS of everyday people, from small “red” towns to big “blue” cities coming together to show their love of country(lots of 🇺🇸) and their opposition to MAGA.

Correct. Any political scientist will tell you the 2024 POTUS race was lost by Joe Biden. There were no winners. Only losers.

OP here. I agree. Biden and his team landed us here. Not just because he ran again, but because he did NOTHING to stop the slide into fascism. They naively thought people would reward them for good policies and operated like they were in the West Wing. Plus Gaza.

I agree with you and with what Jon Stewart said about this matter- When the opponent is as awful as Trump and is easily beatable by any normal POTUS candidate, you hire a Clinton or an Obama who will easily beat him once and then twice if the opposition is stupid enough to run the easily beatable awful candidate again. You don't hire a bumbling, fumbling 80 year old who is just going to gift The White House back to the awful opponent in four years.

No, the people who voted for Trump, including in the Republican primary, when they too had alternatives, landed us here, along with the members of Congress who had the opportunity to do the right thing by the Constitution and chose not to do so out of fear of losing power individually.

[Anonymous]

They don't want Democrats' policies either which is how you got Trump.