Do you let your high schoolers enjoy wine with dinner at home?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NFW. They can drink wine with us at 21 when they are legal.

Look up the laws. You will probably be surprised.


How so?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We're French, and had our kids taste wine and other alcohols when they pretty young, because in many French families, this is what happens. They didn't like it. So now they're young adults and older teens, we drink extremely rarely (a couple of times a year, maybe), and the children don't usually join us, even though we'd have no problems if they did. I think we all lack the gene that makes humans like alcohol. It does nothing for us. We would definitely NOT be fine with frequent drinking. As PP said, it's not good for your health.


Teens in France binge drink a lot more than American teens. Most European countries are the same.


Not exactly. Teens in France self report more binge drinking in some data sets. But this makes sense because it is legal to drink at age 16 whereas American teens would be self reporting illegal activity. You would expect to see such a discrepancy.

You have to be careful about interpreting survey data.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:NFW. They can drink wine with us at 21 when they are legal.

Look up the laws. You will probably be surprised.


How so?


Never mind, I understand now and actually learned that my state like Va does allow drinking in the home with a parent.
Anonymous
My parents did this. I’m 50 and they still congratulate themselves, believing it is the reason I didn’t party in high school.

I didn’t drink (and still don’t) because their alcoholism repulsed me and I didn’t want to be like them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:However there are an alarming number of Americans who are alcoholics. But given your lifestyles, it's not unexpected. Very sad.


Alcohol abuse is also an issue in France, Spain, and Italy.
Anonymous
We don't drink wine except maybe once or twice a year, so no. We make cocktails once a month perhaps and do not offer them to our teen, but he sometimes wants the virgin option if its available. We're not "pairing" anything with our week night dinners. Do you want everyone to pat you on the back in awe? Weird post.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the research says, but I always assumed it was a way to make alcohol not a big deal, but my son's friend was allowed alcohol from an early age ranging from a sip to eventually a glass and the kids (big family) all struggle with alcohol if not full blown alcoholism as teens and young adults so apparently it didn't work in that case.


What the research says (it validates your observation):

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6521692/

https://www.jsad.com/doi/10.15288/jsad.21-00437


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jsad
Seriously? And you don't realize their agendas?


Public health? What do you think their "agenda" is?

Is Oxford University good enough for you?

https://academic.oup.com/eurpub/article/31/Supplement_3/ckab164.783/6405266

The Europe PMC?

https://europepmc.org/article/pmc/6521692

The UK:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/acer.14224

How about the Czech Republic?

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/362448592_The_association_between_parental_supply_of_alcohol_and_later_adolescent_alcohol_use_in_a_highly_permissive_context


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not sure what the research says, but I always assumed it was a way to make alcohol not a big deal, but my son's friend was allowed alcohol from an early age ranging from a sip to eventually a glass and the kids (big family) all struggle with alcohol if not full blown alcoholism as teens and young adults so apparently it didn't work in that case.


What the research says (it validates your observation):

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6521692/

https://www.jsad.com/doi/10.15288/jsad.21-00437


,gov
jsad
Seriously? And you don't realize their agendas?


Seriously? Right back at you.

You think the NIH has an agenda other than public health? What would that be, exactly?

JSAD: Since 1940, the Journal of Studies on Alcohol and Drugs has been a leading peer-reviewed journal publishing multidisciplinary research on alcohol and other drugs. JSAD publishes high-quality research and editorials that advance scientific discovery and inform public health, treatment, and policy worldwide.
Anonymous
I was given wine mixed with sparkling water.
It affected my developing brain and ruined my metabolism.


Anonymous
No, my parents and their siblings were all alcoholics whose parents let them have wine and made them mixed drinks with dinner as teens. They never ate take out, either.
I don’t drink at all and my kids haven’t wanted to.
Anonymous
Look, the OP is obviously a troll itching to start a fight. That’s fine, happens on this silly website all the time.

I’m a social drinker. When I go out, I drink. When we have family and friends over, alcohol is served. But when it’s just me and the fam sitting at home on a random work or school night, it never even occurs to any of us to have a beer or pop open a bottle of wine.

Personally, I think if you need to pair your dinner every night with a glass of wine then, yea, you’re a lush.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Look, the OP is obviously a troll itching to start a fight. That’s fine, happens on this silly website all the time.

I’m a social drinker. When I go out, I drink. When we have family and friends over, alcohol is served. But when it’s just me and the fam sitting at home on a random work or school night, it never even occurs to any of us to have a beer or pop open a bottle of wine.

Personally, I think if you need to pair your dinner every night with a glass of wine then, yea, you’re a lush.


+1 to all of this. Though we may have a glass or two at dinner after a particularly rough day. If you are drinking wine most every night you have a problem IMO.
Anonymous
No, we don't drink any alcohol and if we did we would definitely not be providing our kids with it.
Anonymous
No. But we don’t drink alcohol at home anyway. Spouse very occasionally drinks in a social setting, and I don’t drink at all. I didn’t taste alcohol under I was 21 and didn’t/don’t like it. My parents don’t drink and never gave us alcohol. As adults, 3 of us don’t drink at all, and 2 of my siblings drink occasionally. None of us were drinking as teens. It’s just not true that if you don’t give your 16 yo booze at home, they’ll binge drink in college. If my teen really wanted to taste a sip at home (legal in our state), I’d probably allow it. But definitely not as a regular or normalized thing.
Anonymous
No because we don't drink.
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