I ate more and still lose weight on Ozempic

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:All the "eat less" people's worlds are being rocked by glps and the more frequent recognition/diagnosis of lipedema. They've lost their moral high ground and ache to find a way to regain their superiority.


+1
That ache is so fascinating to see on this site! All these miserable, skinny women who base their self esteem on being thinner than everyone else are suddenly not so special anymore. It's entertaining.


I feel like the bitterness comes not so much from a sense of lost superiority but more from a growing realization that their self-imposed suffering was needless.


Some of you people are soo invested in this narrative that thin women are so mad about ozempic. I am thin. I have been thin my whole life. I don't get any kind of good feeling about being thinner than other people. I know a few people who have struggled with weight and use ozempic/wegovy/zepbound or whatever and are having good results - not only losing weight but feeling physically better and I am truly happy for them. I think overweight people think that other people are thinking about them wayyy more than they actually are.


If you're not spewing the negative, then you're not who it's directed towards. Why do you feel attacked if you're not one of the bitter ones? I don't think this about anyone other than those who make the negative remarks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the "eat less" people's worlds are being rocked by glps and the more frequent recognition/diagnosis of lipedema. They've lost their moral high ground and ache to find a way to regain their superiority.


+1
That ache is so fascinating to see on this site! All these miserable, skinny women who base their self esteem on being thinner than everyone else are suddenly not so special anymore. It's entertaining.


I feel like the bitterness comes not so much from a sense of lost superiority but more from a growing realization that their self-imposed suffering was needless.


Some of you people are soo invested in this narrative that thin women are so mad about ozempic. I am thin. I have been thin my whole life. I don't get any kind of good feeling about being thinner than other people. I know a few people who have struggled with weight and use ozempic/wegovy/zepbound or whatever and are having good results - not only losing weight but feeling physically better and I am truly happy for them. I think overweight people think that other people are thinking about them wayyy more than they actually are.


If you look at these threads, you can see that people often *don't* have an indifferent or live-and-let-live attitude about these medications. The emotional response a number of people seem to have about other people's use of the medications is really intense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the "eat less" people's worlds are being rocked by glps and the more frequent recognition/diagnosis of lipedema. They've lost their moral high ground and ache to find a way to regain their superiority.


+1
That ache is so fascinating to see on this site! All these miserable, skinny women who base their self esteem on being thinner than everyone else are suddenly not so special anymore. It's entertaining.


I feel like the bitterness comes not so much from a sense of lost superiority but more from a growing realization that their self-imposed suffering was needless.


Some of you people are soo invested in this narrative that thin women are so mad about ozempic. I am thin. I have been thin my whole life. I don't get any kind of good feeling about being thinner than other people. I know a few people who have struggled with weight and use ozempic/wegovy/zepbound or whatever and are having good results - not only losing weight but feeling physically better and I am truly happy for them. I think overweight people think that other people are thinking about them wayyy more than they actually are.


If you look at these threads, you can see that people often *don't* have an indifferent or live-and-let-live attitude about these medications. The emotional response a number of people seem to have about other people's use of the medications is really intense.


which is why I'm telling no one I'm using them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the "eat less" people's worlds are being rocked by glps and the more frequent recognition/diagnosis of lipedema. They've lost their moral high ground and ache to find a way to regain their superiority.


+1
That ache is so fascinating to see on this site! All these miserable, skinny women who base their self esteem on being thinner than everyone else are suddenly not so special anymore. It's entertaining.


I feel like the bitterness comes not so much from a sense of lost superiority but more from a growing realization that their self-imposed suffering was needless.


Some of you people are soo invested in this narrative that thin women are so mad about ozempic. I am thin. I have been thin my whole life. I don't get any kind of good feeling about being thinner than other people. I know a few people who have struggled with weight and use ozempic/wegovy/zepbound or whatever and are having good results - not only losing weight but feeling physically better and I am truly happy for them. I think overweight people think that other people are thinking about them wayyy more than they actually are.


If you look at these threads, you can see that people often *don't* have an indifferent or live-and-let-live attitude about these medications. The emotional response a number of people seem to have about other people's use of the medications is really intense.

I don't really see that, but I do see the posts accusing thin women of being mad.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There actually is science to support that Zepbound/Mounjaru actually reduce insulin resistance, and thus, allow individuals to eat more without gaining. I don’t know why people are sooooooo opposed to accepting this—guess it’s just more fun to blame people for their illnesses.

I track my insulin sensitivity with a Lumen device. I can tell you that the results i registered before and after the medication speak for themselves. Something was broken with my metabolism and now it’s not. I can follow a diet for two weeks and actually lose weight instead of banging my head against a wall. My body isn’t constantly in starvation mode anymore, it’s just working how it should. Anyone who denies that individual metabolisms vary, is an anti science idiot.


because this is NOT true. Please point me to a peer reviews journal that shows this. Prove me wrong.

The work by reducing appetite and making you feel full longer so you eat less and aren't miserable eating less. Thus you lose weight.

No one denies that individual metabolisms vary. Someone who is 5' and 100 lbs does not have the same metabolism/caloric needs as someone who is 5'10" and 180 lbs. but principals of fats loss are the same, eat less and lose weight. Now people do also have different levels of hunger hormones and how quickly they feel full.


Here loser:

https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131(25)00114-7

There’s something other than calorie restriction at play. Here’s an explanation: https://open.substack.com/pub/uncertaintyprinciples/p/why-do-we-lose-weight-on-glp-1-drugs?r=xrzsi&utm_medium=ios


I notice how no one is responding to your links, so for the lazy here is some important text from the second one:

Answering that question resulted in an alternative explanation/hypothesis: we get fat not because of how much we eat, but because of what our bodies do with what we eat. Some bodies prioritize the storage of fat over the use of fat for fuel and so accumulate fat to excess. Others, the lean ones, don’t.

This is a fuel-partitioning hypothesis of obesity: the dysregulation is not with appetite and how much we eat, but with this partitioning of fat between fuel use (oxidation, in the lingo) and storage. And because that partitioning is determined primarily by hormonal responses to the food we eat, and by the central nervous system, this hypothesis is a neuroendocrine hypothesis. (And because the dominant hormone promoting fat storage is insulin, the dietary implication of this thinking is the carbohydrate-insulin model, or CIM.)

If this hypothesis is right, then obesity researchers have been misinterpreting their evidence and data for going on 80 years. That’s a hard one to accept, but the evidence itself supports it.


And for the truly lazy who did not notice a DCUM broken link on the first one:

https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism/fulltext/S1550-4131(25)00114-7

Thank you , PP.

Now will you people shut up?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the "eat less" people's worlds are being rocked by glps and the more frequent recognition/diagnosis of lipedema. They've lost their moral high ground and ache to find a way to regain their superiority.


+1
That ache is so fascinating to see on this site! All these miserable, skinny women who base their self esteem on being thinner than everyone else are suddenly not so special anymore. It's entertaining.


I feel like the bitterness comes not so much from a sense of lost superiority but more from a growing realization that their self-imposed suffering was needless.


Some of you people are soo invested in this narrative that thin women are so mad about ozempic. I am thin. I have been thin my whole life. I don't get any kind of good feeling about being thinner than other people. I know a few people who have struggled with weight and use ozempic/wegovy/zepbound or whatever and are having good results - not only losing weight but feeling physically better and I am truly happy for them. I think overweight people think that other people are thinking about them wayyy more than they actually are.


If you look at these threads, you can see that people often *don't* have an indifferent or live-and-let-live attitude about these medications. The emotional response a number of people seem to have about other people's use of the medications is really intense.

I don't really see that, but I do see the posts accusing thin women of being mad.


Here is an emotionally charged response from this thread, in case you missed it:
"Well I am sorry to say when your magic meds get taken away, you'll be fat again. How about exercise?"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Many drugs do this. Is why meth users are always so skinny while pounding tons of junk food.

Exactly.
Anonymous
OP - is the medication *increasing* your appetite? Have you talked to your doctor about this? Because that signals something is not working appropriately.

More than likely though, you were consuming more calories than you thought you were prior to being on a GLP1.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP - is the medication *increasing* your appetite? Have you talked to your doctor about this? Because that signals something is not working appropriately.

More than likely though, you were consuming more calories than you thought you were prior to being on a GLP1.




Also likely you were wrong and she was insulin resistant. You don't know.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP - is the medication *increasing* your appetite? Have you talked to your doctor about this? Because that signals something is not working appropriately.

More than likely though, you were consuming more calories than you thought you were prior to being on a GLP1.




Also likely you were wrong and she was insulin resistant. You don't know.


That doesn't explain the complete weirdness of the medication increasing her appetite.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP - is the medication *increasing* your appetite? Have you talked to your doctor about this? Because that signals something is not working appropriately.

More than likely though, you were consuming more calories than you thought you were prior to being on a GLP1.




Also likely you were wrong and she was insulin resistant. You don't know.


That doesn't explain the complete weirdness of the medication increasing her appetite.


She didn’t say anything about appetite. She said she can eat more calories and lose weight. I have experienced the same and my appetite is also suppressed. I was starving all the time before this, and gaining weight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP - is the medication *increasing* your appetite? Have you talked to your doctor about this? Because that signals something is not working appropriately.

More than likely though, you were consuming more calories than you thought you were prior to being on a GLP1.




Also likely you were wrong and she was insulin resistant. You don't know.


That doesn't explain the complete weirdness of the medication increasing her appetite.


She didn’t say anything about appetite. She said she can eat more calories and lose weight. I have experienced the same and my appetite is also suppressed. I was starving all the time before this, and gaining weight.


Sorry, I'm not buying it. That doesn't make any sense at all.

And yes, I've been on a GLP1.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the "eat less" people's worlds are being rocked by glps and the more frequent recognition/diagnosis of lipedema. They've lost their moral high ground and ache to find a way to regain their superiority.


+1
That ache is so fascinating to see on this site! All these miserable, skinny women who base their self esteem on being thinner than everyone else are suddenly not so special anymore. It's entertaining.


I feel like the bitterness comes not so much from a sense of lost superiority but more from a growing realization that their self-imposed suffering was needless.


Some of you people are soo invested in this narrative that thin women are so mad about ozempic. I am thin. I have been thin my whole life. I don't get any kind of good feeling about being thinner than other people. I know a few people who have struggled with weight and use ozempic/wegovy/zepbound or whatever and are having good results - not only losing weight but feeling physically better and I am truly happy for them. I think overweight people think that other people are thinking about them wayyy more than they actually are.


If you look at these threads, you can see that people often *don't* have an indifferent or live-and-let-live attitude about these medications. The emotional response a number of people seem to have about other people's use of the medications is really intense.


I am with the other poster. I am not sure i see that narrative about thin women being mad about ozempic because it makes them less special or because they are jealous. That sounds a bit unhinged tbh. I am "naturally" thin by DCUM standards. Not as athletic as i would like but undeniably thin. And I am happy for people finding solutions that work for them and make them more comfortable in their body. Happy for my friends IRL who take ozempic and finally see results or for the DCUM posters. You being thin or overweight doesn't affect me.

I 100% believe that ozempic helped reveal new insights on metabolic health and why some people really have a hard time staying thin despite drastic efforts. It looks like a pretty amazing drug. What I am personally worried about are the potential side effects of taking the drug or the sustainability of the process, but not because i find it morally wrong, just because i don't want anybody getting hurt. And def no anger and judgement.

If there is an anger narrative i have noticed it more coming from the overweight and the health focus groups. From the overweight and/or body image conscious people because of the fear that it creates new standards and a backlash on acceptance of all body types, that ozempic could feed ED-like behaviors, a return to the heroin-chic look of the late 90s-early 2000s and an additional moral judgement on the poor who cannot afford to buy ozempic and be thin. From the health focus/exercise group because it makes people again too focused on losing weight and pulling them away from focusing on having a strong healthy body in favor of "superficial" "vanity" weight loss (a bit like the cigarette weight loss ads of the 1950s). The judgement here being that Ozempic could allow people to skip the motivation and discipline for exercise, which would be a mistake.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Isnt that abusing the purpose of the drug?

Profits.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All the "eat less" people's worlds are being rocked by glps and the more frequent recognition/diagnosis of lipedema. They've lost their moral high ground and ache to find a way to regain their superiority.


+1
That ache is so fascinating to see on this site! All these miserable, skinny women who base their self esteem on being thinner than everyone else are suddenly not so special anymore. It's entertaining.


I feel like the bitterness comes not so much from a sense of lost superiority but more from a growing realization that their self-imposed suffering was needless.


Some of you people are soo invested in this narrative that thin women are so mad about ozempic. I am thin. I have been thin my whole life. I don't get any kind of good feeling about being thinner than other people. I know a few people who have struggled with weight and use ozempic/wegovy/zepbound or whatever and are having good results - not only losing weight but feeling physically better and I am truly happy for them. I think overweight people think that other people are thinking about them wayyy more than they actually are.


If you look at these threads, you can see that people often *don't* have an indifferent or live-and-let-live attitude about these medications. The emotional response a number of people seem to have about other people's use of the medications is really intense.


I am with the other poster. I am not sure i see that narrative about thin women being mad about ozempic because it makes them less special or because they are jealous. That sounds a bit unhinged tbh. I am "naturally" thin by DCUM standards. Not as athletic as i would like but undeniably thin. And I am happy for people finding solutions that work for them and make them more comfortable in their body. Happy for my friends IRL who take ozempic and finally see results or for the DCUM posters. You being thin or overweight doesn't affect me.

I 100% believe that ozempic helped reveal new insights on metabolic health and why some people really have a hard time staying thin despite drastic efforts. It looks like a pretty amazing drug. What I am personally worried about are the potential side effects of taking the drug or the sustainability of the process, but not because i find it morally wrong, just because i don't want anybody getting hurt. And def no anger and judgement.

If there is an anger narrative i have noticed it more coming from the overweight and the health focus groups. From the overweight and/or body image conscious people because of the fear that it creates new standards and a backlash on acceptance of all body types, that ozempic could feed ED-like behaviors, a return to the heroin-chic look of the late 90s-early 2000s and an additional moral judgement on the poor who cannot afford to buy ozempic and be thin. From the health focus/exercise group because it makes people again too focused on losing weight and pulling them away from focusing on having a strong healthy body in favor of "superficial" "vanity" weight loss (a bit like the cigarette weight loss ads of the 1950s). The judgement here being that Ozempic could allow people to skip the motivation and discipline for exercise, which would be a mistake.





"i have noticed it more coming from the overweight and the health focus groups." => sorry, by saying that i don't mean that the majority (or even a minority) of the people who could be part of those 2 "groups" are angry. I mean that when i see an angry/emotional post, that is where it seems to come from IMO
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