Expectation of Privacy in 'Public'

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Anonymous wrote:I'd definitely smear my nutsack all over the door handle.

Just as long as you don’t mind the owner having a recording and sending it to the police.

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Anonymous wrote:You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore.

You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.

Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did !

So what about Ring cameras, etc. those record voices. are those illegal in Maryland?

It's the public vs. private things. You can't go into someone's home and secretly record them without their consent. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy INSIDE your home or office. That expectation doesn't apply outside. Outside of your house = public as far as the law in concerned.

However, there have been some successful video with audio recording challenges in MD. The context of the conversation matters. If the conversation held in public was deemed to be private and confidential in nature and was illegally recorded, then the Rivian owner could get in trouble.

Just another aspect showing how our legal system has failed to keep up with technological changes adequately enough.

Can you cite to those cases? I would really LOVE to know as a resident of MD. If people want to stand in front of my house and have private conversations, that's on them. My Ring is recording, however, and it's perfectly legal.

People standing in front of a Ring NOT expecting to be recorded are complete and utter idiots. No matter where they live.

Agreed. Which is exactly my point.

No. There is no expectation of privacy standing on someone else's front porch. Your own front porch, perhaps.

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Anonymous wrote:You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore.

You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.

Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did !

So what about Ring cameras, etc. those record voices. are those illegal in Maryland?

It's the public vs. private things. You can't go into someone's home and secretly record them without their consent. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy INSIDE your home or office. That expectation doesn't apply outside. Outside of your house = public as far as the law in concerned.

However, there have been some successful video with audio recording challenges in MD. The context of the conversation matters. If the conversation held in public was deemed to be private and confidential in nature and was illegally recorded, then the Rivian owner could get in trouble.

Just another aspect showing how our legal system has failed to keep up with technological changes adequately enough.

Can you cite to those cases? I would really LOVE to know as a resident of MD. If people want to stand in front of my house and have private conversations, that's on them. My Ring is recording, however, and it's perfectly legal.

People standing in front of a Ring NOT expecting to be recorded are complete and utter idiots. No matter where they live.

Agreed. Which is exactly my point.

No. There is no expectation of privacy standing on someone else's front porch. Your own front porch, perhaps.

That’s what we are saying. Read it again 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:My friend lives in DC and has a parking spot in the shared alley behind their house. It's a bit like a small parking lot where 3 or 4 neighbors have spots as well. He owns a Rivian, which has 24 hour cameras mounted on the car.

I think most people have no idea they are being recorded when they are near one and, despite being in 'public', I think most people would assume a conversation they had with their spouse in an empty parking lot would be private. Well, he 'caught' a neighbor sh*t talking about him and now he can't let go of it. He showed me the recording and it was a pretty brutal take down. But, now he wants to confront the guy.

I'm telling him that's insane, right? Possibly even illegal, no?

I think it's super weird that he was even listening to the recordings. Has he always been mentally ill or is this an affliction that developed later in life? Which personality disorder does he have?

Yes, this. I have a Rivian as well and while it lives in a garage I have been tons of places in public where people have been standing near my car and not once as it ever occurred to me to go listen to the recordings to see if I caught anything interesting.

Do you plan to try out that Rivian feature now?

I'm going to be completely honest because this is an anonymous forum. There is a mom from my children's sport who has been causing drama and people often end up congregating around the cars and chatting. If I saw her talking to someone near my car, I absolutely may go back and watch the footage. But I don't have nearly enough time on my hands to go back through it all to see if she got near the car, I'm just saying if I happened to see her standing there talking to someone then I might.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who drives a giant truck in DC is going to have sh*t talked about them.

How does an owner of a Rivian not know this?

You think a Rivian is a “giant truck”?

FFS, what do you consider to be a “small truck” then?

DP.

Yes they are giant trucks. It’s awful!

No one needs these gigantic vehicles!!

You know they're electric, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd definitely smear my nutsack all over the door handle.

Well, luckily for him the Rivian door handles go flush when the car is in park.

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I don’t see what the issue is, your friend found out valuable info about the neighbor. Act on it or not. Personally, I love knowing when people are talking ISH about behind my back. I have never ever confronted them, but use it to my advantage all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t see what the issue is, your friend found out valuable info about the neighbor. Act on it or not. Personally, I love knowing when people are talking ISH about behind my back. I have never ever confronted them, but use it to my advantage all the time.

How is your neighbor competing with you?

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Anonymous wrote:My friend lives in DC and has a parking spot in the shared alley behind their house. It's a bit like a small parking lot where 3 or 4 neighbors have spots as well. He owns a Rivian, which has 24 hour cameras mounted on the car.

I think most people have no idea they are being recorded when they are near one and, despite being in 'public', I think most people would assume a conversation they had with their spouse in an empty parking lot would be private. Well, he 'caught' a neighbor sh*t talking about him and now he can't let go of it. He showed me the recording and it was a pretty brutal take down. But, now he wants to confront the guy.

I'm telling him that's insane, right? Possibly even illegal, no?

I think it's super weird that he was even listening to the recordings. Has he always been mentally ill or is this an affliction that developed later in life? Which personality disorder does he have?

Yes, this. I have a Rivian as well and while it lives in a garage I have been tons of places in public where people have been standing near my car and not once as it ever occurred to me to go listen to the recordings to see if I caught anything interesting.

Do you plan to try out that Rivian feature now?

I'm going to be completely honest because this is an anonymous forum. There is a mom from my children's sport who has been causing drama and people often end up congregating around the cars and chatting. If I saw her talking to someone near my car, I absolutely may go back and watch the footage. But I don't have nearly enough time on my hands to go back through it all to see if she got near the car, I'm just saying if I happened to see her standing there talking to someone then I might.

How much GD footage is saved? Isn't it overwritten?

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Anonymous wrote:My friend lives in DC and has a parking spot in the shared alley behind their house. It's a bit like a small parking lot where 3 or 4 neighbors have spots as well. He owns a Rivian, which has 24 hour cameras mounted on the car.

I think most people have no idea they are being recorded when they are near one and, despite being in 'public', I think most people would assume a conversation they had with their spouse in an empty parking lot would be private. Well, he 'caught' a neighbor sh*t talking about him and now he can't let go of it. He showed me the recording and it was a pretty brutal take down. But, now he wants to confront the guy.

I'm telling him that's insane, right? Possibly even illegal, no?

I think it's super weird that he was even listening to the recordings. Has he always been mentally ill or is this an affliction that developed later in life? Which personality disorder does he have?

Yes, this. I have a Rivian as well and while it lives in a garage I have been tons of places in public where people have been standing near my car and not once as it ever occurred to me to go listen to the recordings to see if I caught anything interesting.

Do you plan to try out that Rivian feature now?

I'm going to be completely honest because this is an anonymous forum. There is a mom from my children's sport who has been causing drama and people often end up congregating around the cars and chatting. If I saw her talking to someone near my car, I absolutely may go back and watch the footage. But I don't have nearly enough time on my hands to go back through it all to see if she got near the car, I'm just saying if I happened to see her standing there talking to someone then I might.

How much GD footage is saved? Isn't it overwritten?

My ring saves 30 days at least.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who drives a giant truck in DC is going to have sh*t talked about them.

How does an owner of a Rivian not know this?

You think a Rivian is a “giant truck”?

FFS, what do you consider to be a “small truck” then?

DP.

Yes they are giant trucks. It’s awful!

No one needs these gigantic vehicles!!

You know they're electric, right?

And?

They are still comically oversized - no idea why insecure people get conned into splurging on this stupid planet killing status symbols that they look foolish driving around in a congested city in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who drives a giant truck in DC is going to have sh*t talked about them.

How does an owner of a Rivian not know this?

You think a Rivian is a “giant truck”?

FFS, what do you consider to be a “small truck” then?

DP.

Yes they are giant trucks. It’s awful!

No one needs these gigantic vehicles!!

You know they're electric, right?

And?

They are still comically oversized - no idea why insecure people get conned into splurging on this stupid planet killing status symbols that they look foolish driving around in a congested city in.

Because they like it. Next!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd definitely smear my nutsack all over the door handle.

Just as long as you don’t mind the owner having a recording and sending it to the police.

LOL. My car got stolen from inside my garage attached to my house (so, B&E, trespassing, destruction of property and Grand Theft Vehicle) and the cops didn't even come out. I'm sure they'd jump right on a call for "nuts rubbed on door handle"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd definitely smear my nutsack all over the door handle.

Just as long as you don’t mind the owner having a recording and sending it to the police.

LOL. My car got stolen from inside my garage attached to my house (so, B&E, trespassing, destruction of property and Grand Theft Vehicle) and the cops didn't even come out. I'm sure they'd jump right on a call for "nuts rubbed on door handle"

[Anonymous]

We have a Tesla, and twice the local police have knocked on our door and asked if we could email them sentry footage from a particular time frame. Once it was bc a jewelry store had been robbed and they wanted to catch them getting away. The other time it was bc of package thefts on the block.