Expectation of Privacy in 'Public'

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who drives a giant truck in DC is going to have sh*t talked about them.

How does an owner of a Rivian not know this?


You think a Rivian is a “giant truck”?

FFS, what do you consider to be a “small truck” then?


For a urban area with small streets like DC, yes.

I parked next to one in the burbs and it could barely fit in the smaller dc sized suburban parking spaces. The whole DC area has some of the smallest parking spaces I have ever encountered though.

Lots of smaller older model Toyota trucks are a better fit for an urban area. Or a small SUV.

Where I'm from the Rivian would be a mid size truck, but not here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore.


You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.


Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did !

I had a friend who had made up a make believe story about a boyfriend to her girl friend group.
She said she had fun making up the stories.

I wonder what the legal implications would have been had her affair turned out to be a fantasy that she made up because Linda liked the story
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore.


You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.


Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did !


So what about Ring cameras, etc. those record voices. are those illegal in Maryland?


It's the public vs. private things. You can't go into someone's home and secretly record them without their consent. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy INSIDE your home or office. That expectation doesn't apply outside. Outside of your house = public as far as the law in concerned.

However, there have been some successful video with audio recording challenges in MD. The context of the conversation matters. If the conversation held in public was deemed to be private and confidential in nature and was illegally recorded, then the Rivian owner could get in trouble.

Just another aspect showing how our legal system has failed to keep up with technological changes adequately enough.


Can you cite to those cases? I would really LOVE to know as a resident of MD. If people want to stand in front of my house and have private conversations, that's on them. My Ring is recording, however, and it's perfectly legal.


People standing in front of a Ring NOT expecting to be recorded are complete and utter idiots. No matter where they live.



So? They still have RIGHTS, you know.


They don't have a right not to be recorded. If you want to spill your secrets in front of someone else's ring camera, that's totally on you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore.


You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.


Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did !


So what about Ring cameras, etc. those record voices. are those illegal in Maryland?


It's the public vs. private things. You can't go into someone's home and secretly record them without their consent. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy INSIDE your home or office. That expectation doesn't apply outside. Outside of your house = public as far as the law in concerned.

However, there have been some successful video with audio recording challenges in MD. The context of the conversation matters. If the conversation held in public was deemed to be private and confidential in nature and was illegally recorded, then the Rivian owner could get in trouble.

Just another aspect showing how our legal system has failed to keep up with technological changes adequately enough.


Can you cite to those cases? I would really LOVE to know as a resident of MD. If people want to stand in front of my house and have private conversations, that's on them. My Ring is recording, however, and it's perfectly legal.


People standing in front of a Ring NOT expecting to be recorded are complete and utter idiots. No matter where they live.



So? They still have RIGHTS, you know.


Sure, but this isn't one of them.
Anonymous
Perfectly legal to record, but completely unhinged to confront the neighbor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore.


You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.


Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did !


So what about Ring cameras, etc. those record voices. are those illegal in Maryland?


It's the public vs. private things. You can't go into someone's home and secretly record them without their consent. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy INSIDE your home or office. That expectation doesn't apply outside. Outside of your house = public as far as the law in concerned.

However, there have been some successful video with audio recording challenges in MD. The context of the conversation matters. If the conversation held in public was deemed to be private and confidential in nature and was illegally recorded, then the Rivian owner could get in trouble.

Just another aspect showing how our legal system has failed to keep up with technological changes adequately enough.


Can you cite to those cases? I would really LOVE to know as a resident of MD. If people want to stand in front of my house and have private conversations, that's on them. My Ring is recording, however, and it's perfectly legal.


People standing in front of a Ring NOT expecting to be recorded are complete and utter idiots. No matter where they live.



So? They still have RIGHTS, you know.


Sure, but this isn't one of them.




Whatever, dumb MAGA.
Anonymous
The issue here isn't whether it was legal for the Rivian owner to record the conversation. It's probably ok because it was a public, shared space.

The issue is that it's definitely legal for the neighbor to say what they said about the Rivian owner, and there is nothing for the Rivian owner to "confront" the neighbor about. The neighbor has not done anything wrong. He has expressed an opinion in a situation where he had no idea he was being recorded.

FAFO. If you don't want to hear your neighbors talking $hit about you, don't record their conversations with your car and then listen to them later.

The Rivian owner therefore has no right to confront the neighbor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore.


You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.


Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did !

I had a friend who had made up a make believe story about a boyfriend to her girl friend group.
She said she had fun making up the stories.

I wonder what the legal implications would have been had her affair turned out to be a fantasy that she made up because Linda liked the story


I too had a friend late teens who invented a rich boyfriend, 10 years older, international businessman, who would bring me back souvenirs from London. He was always too busy for me to meet him. She regaled me with their personal "activities" that included group parties.

I later found out it was all made up, and yes I was a gullible 17yo to believe it. Turns out, I had a real boyfriend and she was insanely jealous of our personal "activities" that I did NOT describe, but she knew we were active. This was her way of competing.

A decade later, a 40yo woman at work got "cancer". We all sympathized, she slowly lost her hair, etc. Later it turned out she faked the whole cancer thing to get attention!

There are odd people out there who lie and make up an entire life story!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore.


You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.


Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did !


So what about Ring cameras, etc. those record voices. are those illegal in Maryland?


It's the public vs. private things. You can't go into someone's home and secretly record them without their consent. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy INSIDE your home or office. That expectation doesn't apply outside. Outside of your house = public as far as the law in concerned.

However, there have been some successful video with audio recording challenges in MD. The context of the conversation matters. If the conversation held in public was deemed to be private and confidential in nature and was illegally recorded, then the Rivian owner could get in trouble.

Just another aspect showing how our legal system has failed to keep up with technological changes adequately enough.


Can you cite to those cases? I would really LOVE to know as a resident of MD. If people want to stand in front of my house and have private conversations, that's on them. My Ring is recording, however, and it's perfectly legal.


People standing in front of a Ring NOT expecting to be recorded are complete and utter idiots. No matter where they live.



So? They still have RIGHTS, you know.


Sure, but this isn't one of them.




Whatever, dumb MAGA.


DP Uhm you’re clearly the dumb one since you don’t know the law 🙄🙄.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore.


You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.


Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did !


So what about Ring cameras, etc. those record voices. are those illegal in Maryland?


It's the public vs. private things. You can't go into someone's home and secretly record them without their consent. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy INSIDE your home or office. That expectation doesn't apply outside. Outside of your house = public as far as the law in concerned.

However, there have been some successful video with audio recording challenges in MD. The context of the conversation matters. If the conversation held in public was deemed to be private and confidential in nature and was illegally recorded, then the Rivian owner could get in trouble.

Just another aspect showing how our legal system has failed to keep up with technological changes adequately enough.


Can you cite to those cases? I would really LOVE to know as a resident of MD. If people want to stand in front of my house and have private conversations, that's on them. My Ring is recording, however, and it's perfectly legal.


People standing in front of a Ring NOT expecting to be recorded are complete and utter idiots. No matter where they live.



So? They still have RIGHTS, you know.


A ring on someone's personal porch is not violating your rights. I think you were being sarcastic. It is visible and a known recording device. A car is not something people think of as a recording device. Why does the car even offer this feature?
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore. [/quote]

You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.[/quote]

Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did ! [/quote]

So what about Ring cameras, etc. those record voices. are those illegal in Maryland?[/quote]

It's the public vs. private things. You can't go into someone's home and secretly record them without their consent. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy INSIDE your home or office. That expectation doesn't apply outside. Outside of your house = public as far as the law in concerned.

However, there have been some successful video with audio recording challenges in MD. The context of the conversation matters. If the conversation held in public was deemed to be private and confidential in nature and was illegally recorded, then the Rivian owner could get in trouble.

Just another aspect showing how our legal system has failed to keep up with technological changes adequately enough. [/quote]

Can you cite to those cases? I would really LOVE to know as a resident of MD. If people want to stand in front of my house and have private conversations, that's on them. My Ring is recording, however, and it's perfectly legal.[/quote]

People standing in front of a Ring NOT expecting to be recorded are complete and utter idiots. No matter where they live. [/quote]


So? They still have RIGHTS, you know.[/quote]

A ring on someone's personal porch is not violating your rights. I think you were being sarcastic. It is visible and a known recording device. A car is not something people think of as a recording device. Why does the car even offer this feature?[/quote]

For the same reason people cameras on their homes: for their safety and protection of property. Because people vandalize cars, especially these types of cars.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are recorded everywhere. How do you not know this? A conversation held in public is not private. Nothing is private anymore.


You are totally wrong. It’s illegal to record voices; it’s been part of Maryland law forever.


Are all of you mere children, who don’t remember Linda Tripp?

Linda Tripp was indicted in Maryland for illegally recording a voice telephone conversation with Monica Lewinsky without Lewinsky’s consent. Tripp secretly taped conversations with Lewinsky after Lewinsky revealed a sexual relationship with President Bill Clinton. Tripp's actions were illegal because they violated Maryland's wiretapping laws.

OP: your Rivian-owning friend is going to prison over what he did !


So what about Ring cameras, etc. those record voices. are those illegal in Maryland?


It's the public vs. private things. You can't go into someone's home and secretly record them without their consent. You have a reasonable expectation of privacy INSIDE your home or office. That expectation doesn't apply outside. Outside of your house = public as far as the law in concerned.

However, there have been some successful video with audio recording challenges in MD. The context of the conversation matters. If the conversation held in public was deemed to be private and confidential in nature and was illegally recorded, then the Rivian owner could get in trouble.

Just another aspect showing how our legal system has failed to keep up with technological changes adequately enough.


Can you cite to those cases? I would really LOVE to know as a resident of MD. If people want to stand in front of my house and have private conversations, that's on them. My Ring is recording, however, and it's perfectly legal.


People standing in front of a Ring NOT expecting to be recorded are complete and utter idiots. No matter where they live.



So? They still have RIGHTS, you know.


A ring on someone's personal porch is not violating your rights. I think you were being sarcastic. It is visible and a known recording device. A car is not something people think of as a recording device. Why does the car even offer this feature?


For the same reason people cameras on their homes: for their safety and protection of property. Because people vandalize cars, especially these types of cars.
Anonymous
I would seriously be reconsidering this friendship. What kind of creep watches all the videos?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would seriously be reconsidering this friendship. What kind of creep watches all the videos?


I scan my ring videos to see if there is anything I should worry about. But I would never confront anyone about what they said.
Anonymous
I'd definitely smear my nutsack all over the door handle.
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