How likely for save act to pass senate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So no one has actually answered the question…

I did. It’s unlikely, because it needs 60 votes.

There are currently 53 R Senators.

I’d bet a lot Murkowski votes against. She will break with Rs to represent her constituents and she represents indigenous tribes and people who vote by mail because it takes a plane ride to get to the polling station. And she has common sense.

Susan Collins votes for, but is “concerned” women can’t vote. She is the most “achieve something and pull the ladder up as you go” woman ever.

Fetterman votes for, because he really, really wants to be the next Sienma and/or Manchin.

So, it gets a max of 53 votes.

It will never get 60. Which the House is counting on. This looks good to the MAGA base, and they are on record— they tried. But, dang it, Dems obstructed. Oh well…

If this passed and became law, it would hurt MAGA more than UMC liberals with passports, and there would be a huge backlash. I’d kind of like Dems to sickout the day of the vote and make Rs pass this piece of garbage. And then live with the angry constituents and fallout. I’m tired of Rs doing insane things and Dems having to be the guardrails. If this is what MAGA voted for, give it to them.

Let me guess you are a white man. As a woman, this is not a risk I’m willing to take.

No. White woman. Also a lawyer, so I know how government works. They need 60 votes. They don’t have them.

You don’t have to be a lawyer to understand how government works.

My point is to never assume anything because Dems have been fast tracking Trumps nominees and caving at every chance to be a real opposition party.

And the Laken Riley Act was a messaging bill but Dems got spooked and passed it. Cowards is the nicest word I can think of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:how does this change things for me

Who are you?

[Anonymous]

I had no trouble getting a passport appointment with photo at my local post office for next Friday. Assuming I fill the forms in properly -they want it filled on the computer and printed out, and I bring originals and copies of the required documents, and I have the $130 fee plus $35 processing fee, then I can apply for a new passport. If I choose standard delivery, I may receive my passport in 4-6 weeks. There is a lot of fine print. It could be 4-6 weeks from when it is processed...who knows? Then I have to rely on USPS to deliver it to me. Hopefully I don't need it...I hate travel and flying, but I love voting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had no trouble getting a passport appointment with photo at my local post office for next Friday. Assuming I fill the forms in properly -they want it filled on the computer and printed out, and I bring originals and copies of the required documents, and I have the $130 fee plus $35 processing fee, then I can apply for a new passport. If I choose standard delivery, I may receive my passport in 4-6 weeks. There is a lot of fine print. It could be 4-6 weeks from when it is processed...who knows? Then I have to rely on USPS to deliver it to me. Hopefully I don't need it...I hate travel and flying, but I love voting.

Those fees amount to being a poll tax. If they are going to require passports then they need to make them free, and fast and relatively easy to get.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had no trouble getting a passport appointment with photo at my local post office for next Friday. Assuming I fill the forms in properly -they want it filled on the computer and printed out, and I bring originals and copies of the required documents, and I have the $130 fee plus $35 processing fee, then I can apply for a new passport. If I choose standard delivery, I may receive my passport in 4-6 weeks. There is a lot of fine print. It could be 4-6 weeks from when it is processed...who knows? Then I have to rely on USPS to deliver it to me. Hopefully I don't need it...I hate travel and flying, but I love voting.

Those fees amount to being a poll tax. If they are going to require passports then they need to make them free, and fast and relatively easy to get.

That's not going to happen. I'll pay the poll tax now to avoid disenfranchisement later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I had no trouble getting a passport appointment with photo at my local post office for next Friday. Assuming I fill the forms in properly -they want it filled on the computer and printed out, and I bring originals and copies of the required documents, and I have the $130 fee plus $35 processing fee, then I can apply for a new passport. If I choose standard delivery, I may receive my passport in 4-6 weeks. There is a lot of fine print. It could be 4-6 weeks from when it is processed...who knows? Then I have to rely on USPS to deliver it to me. Hopefully I don't need it...I hate travel and flying, but I love voting.

I mean, yay for you…but that doesn’t mean it’s right. Also, during Covid it was taking 6 months or more. You think 30 million women who can afford to get one, aren’t going to tie up the system. How convenient that any “backlog” the Feds announce means you can’t vote.

Please try to think more broadly. You might also start an org raising funds to help women who can’t afford it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I changed my last name but have a passport. I’m registered to vote in PA. My sister thinks it will definitely pass and screw over all married women who changed names. I think she’s jumping the gun along with a lot people apparently on social media. Why isn’t anyone talking about this on dcum?

It's all in project 2025....people need to read this document and take it seriously. Americans need to wake up.

Do you have a free link to it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had no trouble getting a passport appointment with photo at my local post office for next Friday. Assuming I fill the forms in properly -they want it filled on the computer and printed out, and I bring originals and copies of the required documents, and I have the $130 fee plus $35 processing fee, then I can apply for a new passport. If I choose standard delivery, I may receive my passport in 4-6 weeks. There is a lot of fine print. It could be 4-6 weeks from when it is processed...who knows? Then I have to rely on USPS to deliver it to me. Hopefully I don't need it...I hate travel and flying, but I love voting.

I mean, yay for you…but that doesn’t mean it’s right. Also, during Covid it was taking 6 months or more. You think 30 million women who can afford to get one, aren’t going to tie up the system. How convenient that any “backlog” the Feds announce means you can’t vote.

Please try to think more broadly. You might also start an org raising funds to help women who can’t afford it.

+1. Imagine someone with mobility issues and on a fixed income, who now needs a passport to vote or who needs to track down their birth certificate and marriage license, who now has to trek down to the post office and deal with all this, and pay over $100 with their limited retirement savings. If none of the PPs have ever had to deal with elder care issues (trying to get services for the elderly), they are in for a bog surprise if they think this is all OK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had no trouble getting a passport appointment with photo at my local post office for next Friday. Assuming I fill the forms in properly -they want it filled on the computer and printed out, and I bring originals and copies of the required documents, and I have the $130 fee plus $35 processing fee, then I can apply for a new passport. If I choose standard delivery, I may receive my passport in 4-6 weeks. There is a lot of fine print. It could be 4-6 weeks from when it is processed...who knows? Then I have to rely on USPS to deliver it to me. Hopefully I don't need it...I hate travel and flying, but I love voting.

I mean, yay for you…but that doesn’t mean it’s right. Also, during Covid it was taking 6 months or more. You think 30 million women who can afford to get one, aren’t going to tie up the system. How convenient that any “backlog” the Feds announce means you can’t vote.

Please try to think more broadly. You might also start an org raising funds to help women who can’t afford it.

+1. Imagine someone with mobility issues and on a fixed income, who now needs a passport to vote or who needs to track down their birth certificate and marriage license, who now has to trek down to the post office and deal with all this, and pay over $100 with their limited retirement savings. If none of the PPs have ever had to deal with elder care issues (trying to get services for the elderly), they are in for a bog surprise if they think this is all OK.

This. It’s a minor inconvenience for a young adult male, who just has to provide a birth certificate, but an Everest of a hurdle for elderly women on a fixed income who aren’t savvy about navigating the system, don’t have the additional required documentation, and don’t have someone to help. How is this not discrimination?

Trump’s State Department will probably slow walk passports for senior citizens, women, registered Democrats, LGBTQ+, and anyone else they define as a “threat to Democracy”, meaning “won’t vote the correct way”. Get ready for staffing cuts and turnaround times mysteriously ballooning to 3-6+ months as election season approaches.

People who move or get removed from the voter rolls (often for bogus reasons) will be impacted. It will also take away the ability to register by mail or online.

This is an attack on the freedom to vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:3-4 Democrats in the House voted for it.

WHY???

Moderates. They will always screw you in the end.

You mean conservatives. The people you probably think of is liberal are more like moderates along the lines of Nixon or Reagan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I changed my last name but have a passport. I’m registered to vote in PA. My sister thinks it will definitely pass and screw over all married women who changed names. I think she’s jumping the gun along with a lot people apparently on social media. Why isn’t anyone talking about this on dcum?

That is democratic propaganda

It should pass and it will pass

It’s not propaganda. It’s fact. This is exactly what the bill will do. Learn to distinguish between the two.

Non-citizens already cannot vote. This is a thinly disguised voter suppression tool that will harm democracy.

Republicans should not be allowed to pass power-grab legislation that makes it harder to vote them out. Period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had no trouble getting a passport appointment with photo at my local post office for next Friday. Assuming I fill the forms in properly -they want it filled on the computer and printed out, and I bring originals and copies of the required documents, and I have the $130 fee plus $35 processing fee, then I can apply for a new passport. If I choose standard delivery, I may receive my passport in 4-6 weeks. There is a lot of fine print. It could be 4-6 weeks from when it is processed...who knows? Then I have to rely on USPS to deliver it to me. Hopefully I don't need it...I hate travel and flying, but I love voting.

I mean, yay for you…but that doesn’t mean it’s right. Also, during Covid it was taking 6 months or more. You think 30 million women who can afford to get one, aren’t going to tie up the system. How convenient that any “backlog” the Feds announce means you can’t vote.

Please try to think more broadly. You might also start an org raising funds to help women who can’t afford it.

+1. Imagine someone with mobility issues and on a fixed income, who now needs a passport to vote or who needs to track down their birth certificate and marriage license, who now has to trek down to the post office and deal with all this, and pay over $100 with their limited retirement savings. If none of the PPs have ever had to deal with elder care issues (trying to get services for the elderly), they are in for a bog surprise if they think this is all OK.

This. It’s a minor inconvenience for a young adult male, who just has to provide a birth certificate, but an Everest of a hurdle for elderly women on a fixed income who aren’t savvy about navigating the system, don’t have the additional required documentation, and don’t have someone to help. How is this not discrimination?

Trump’s State Department will probably slow walk passports for senior citizens, women, registered Democrats, LGBTQ+, and anyone else they define as a “threat to Democracy”, meaning “won’t vote the correct way”. Get ready for staffing cuts and turnaround times mysteriously ballooning to 3-6+ months as election season approaches.

People who move or get removed from the voter rolls (often for bogus reasons) will be impacted. It will also take away the ability to register by mail or online.

This is an attack on the freedom to vote.

+1 and adding to this that the passport office at State is actually profitable - I have a good friend who was a budget contractor there - so there would be zero reason to cut staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I changed my last name but have a passport. I’m registered to vote in PA. My sister thinks it will definitely pass and screw over all married women who changed names. I think she’s jumping the gun along with a lot people apparently on social media. Why isn’t anyone talking about this on dcum?

It's all in project 2025....people need to read this document and take it seriously. Americans need to wake up.

Do you have a free link to it?

Google it. It's all free you can download the whole report for free.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I had no trouble getting a passport appointment with photo at my local post office for next Friday. Assuming I fill the forms in properly -they want it filled on the computer and printed out, and I bring originals and copies of the required documents, and I have the $130 fee plus $35 processing fee, then I can apply for a new passport. If I choose standard delivery, I may receive my passport in 4-6 weeks. There is a lot of fine print. It could be 4-6 weeks from when it is processed...who knows? Then I have to rely on USPS to deliver it to me. Hopefully I don't need it...I hate travel and flying, but I love voting.

Those fees amount to being a poll tax. If they are going to require passports then they need to make them free, and fast and relatively easy to get.

THIS. And as stated, requiring htis of women and not men is discriminatory. An easy case to prove, too.

[Anonymous]

Kamala talked about this non-stop during her campaign. She talked about all of the horrible things Trump was going to do and all of the good things she was going to do, including very specific policies. All people online ever did was ask for links and proof that she said those things. I was posting to all social media several times a day and half of the people I know didn't read what I posted because they kept asking for links over and over again. Then afterwards said well. I couldn't vote for her because I didn't know what she stood for.... At some point you being an idiot is on you. If you want to believe you can show up with your driver's license and boat. If the save act passes then good luck to you because that ain't the reality. And this is just the beginning. Once women and poor people can't vote, they're coming for minority men as well