Adolescence on Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the UK tabloids saying this is based on a story of a black 13 yo immigrant snapping and knifing a white girl?

Is that true? And the director chose to make the killer a white boy with mental issues?

Netflix has a show called Adolescence that’s about a British knife killer who stabbed a girl to death on a bus and it’s based on real life cases such as the Southport murderer.

So guess what. They race swapped the actual killer from a black man/migrant to a white boy and the story has it so he was radicalized online by the red pill movement.

Just the absolute state of anti-white propaganda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the UK tabloids saying this is based on a story of a black 13 yo immigrant snapping and knifing a white girl?

Is that true? And the director chose to make the killer a white boy with mental issues?

Netflix has a show called Adolescence that’s about a British knife killer who stabbed a girl to death on a bus and it’s based on real life cases such as the Southport murderer.

So guess what. They race swapped the actual killer from a black man/migrant to a white boy and the story has it so he was radicalized online by the red pill movement.

Just the absolute state of anti-white propaganda.

This has been explained several time. There are MANY stories of teenage boys killing girls in the UK. Like dozens. Boys of different races, including white. The series is not based on a specific incident. It's inspired by what appears to be a trend of young men stabbing girls to death. The decision to make the boy and his family white was driven in part by the decision to have one of the creators (who is white) play the boy's dad, and to locate the story in northern England, which is less diverse than other parts of the country. It was not a political choice.

If you don't believe me, please go find the apparently singular story of a 13 year old boy killing a girl from school and show us how this series was based on that specific event but with the races swapped. You can't, because the series was not based on such an event. It draws loosely from a number of such killings.

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Where’s the Uk fbi data by demo?

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the UK tabloids saying this is based on a story of a black 13 yo immigrant snapping and knifing a white girl?

Is that true? And the director chose to make the killer a white boy with mental issues?

Netflix has a show called Adolescence that’s about a British knife killer who stabbed a girl to death on a bus and it’s based on real life cases such as the Southport murderer.

So guess what. They race swapped the actual killer from a black man/migrant to a white boy and the story has it so he was radicalized online by the red pill movement.

Just the absolute state of anti-white propaganda.

This has been explained several time. There are MANY stories of teenage boys killing girls in the UK. Like dozens. Boys of different races, including white. The series is not based on a specific incident. It's inspired by what appears to be a trend of young men stabbing girls to death. The decision to make the boy and his family white was driven in part by the decision to have one of the creators (who is white) play the boy's dad, and to locate the story in northern England, which is less diverse than other parts of the country. It was not a political choice.

If you don't believe me, please go find the apparently singular story of a 13 year old boy killing a girl from school and show us how this series was based on that specific event but with the races swapped. You can't, because the series was not based on such an event. It draws loosely from a number of such killings.

Sure reeks of politics if they’re trying to push it to a parliament session.
Can’t get more political than that.

Bottom line the character killer boy is psychotic. So bringing up refugees, social media, lack of a real father figure won’t be effective.

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Other than that, great dialog play.
Sounds like an abusive narcissist talking for hours and never taking responsibility for anything they did.

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Anonymous wrote:People don’t want to believe kids are born this way but a small percentage of kids really are. They just don’t have the same feelings as others.

Think of the James Bulger case where a two year old boy was kidnapped, tortured extensively, and killed by two ten year olds.

That is what the therapist completely realizes but she is hired by the defense. So she is in a quandary of how to write it up when she knows he is evil and has an explosive temper.

She would do her correct right up, submit it, and be fired. Prosecution would then hire her.

I don’t think she was hired to see if he was guilty.

They had the tape. She was supposed to figure out why. Maybe to merit a lighter sentence/sympathy?

I think she was hired to determine competency. She seemed to be trying to get at whether he understood what he had done. That's why she asks him if he understands that death is forever.

I do think she's devastated at the end because she knows how dangerous he is. He's not just a troubled boy who snapped in a moment of passion -- he planned and executed a revenge killing.

I think when he asks her if she likes him, she is sad because of course she doesn't like him, but also she recognizes that her dislike of him, like Katie's dislike of him, can only drive him further towards violence. It's a very disturbing realization.

He clearly wants love and acceptance, but now he will never get it (at least not from women like Briony) because he's shown himself to be capable of so much premeditated violence and hatred.

That's why I do think it's important in the last episode when Jaime's sister Lisa says they need to stay where they are and support Jaime, because he's theirs. Someone does have to step up and love this child. It makes sense that it's his family. That doesn't mean he'll for sure rehabilitate, but he definitely wouldn't without their love and support.

Yes all true, once you determine yours dealing with someone volatile you walk on eggshells. Doctors included.

The rest of the family’s lives are over as now they have to coddle and cater to the most dysfunctional member.

Not uncommon. The murder part is but the rest is not.

No, I think she was crying because she thought the boy was so tragic.

At that point she knew she was safe from him (he was being dragged off by a guard). She did not shudder, she cried. Someone in her field probably cares about children and she is sad that this one is so damaged.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought that kid did incredibly. Very well acted on his part

I dunno.

I know a ton of tweens who could argue for hours and hours. Especially to avoid taking responsibility for things!

Yet I felt bad for him (as did the therapist), after he begged her to like him, even just a little bit.

Sucker

You’re being manipulated by a self-centered DARVO-ing narc.

DP

No, manipulated by a CHILD that we see as innocent and once was, but through bullying and neglect he turned into something else. It's OK to feel these normal human emotions.

I thought it was tough to look at it through Jamie's parents lens. I also felt it was a bit short. I would have liked to see more of the detective's son's story, he too was being bullied. I would have like to see more of Jade's story, she was being bullied. And we never saw the girls parents perspectives and what they learned about her actions as the catalyst to her murder.

Thank goodness you’re not a public defender and see how many irreversibly troubled and violent CHILDREN there are in this country and overseas. Yes, they do exist.

DP, but I agree these kids become irreversibly troubled and violent.

But I agree with PP that they are not born that way. They don't come out of the womb predisposed to murder people. There are factors that lead a kid down this path, and there are factors that can prevent a kid from turning into this kind of violent sociopath. The show isn't arguing that Jaime is redeemable or that he isn't to blame for the murder. It's showing how there are things this family, this school, and this community could have done to change what happened, and that the poor choices that led Jaime down that path weren't even particularly malicious or intentional.

I found it particularly heartbreaking in the last episode when the parents were talking about their own culpability, because I think they were right about the places where they failed, but they were talking about things that parents fail at all the time, ever day, despite best intentions. Jaime didn't take to sports early on, and they maybe didn't do a great job of helping him find other interests, so when he got into gaming and being into his computer, they were just happy he had a thing and bought him all his gear and didn't really think that hard about it. And you can see how maybe Jaime was a sensitive kid who needed more overt love and support from his dad, but his dad was not socialized to offer that and felt uncomfortable with it, and just kind of evaded it. Not because he didn't love his kid but because he didn't have the tools. And then when Jaime was staying up late on his computer every night, and his mom knows it and is telling him that it's late and he needs to go to sleep, but she never goes in and just says "hey, what is going on, what is troubling you, how can I help?" when in retrospect it's very clear he needed that intervention.

Kids are not born killers. I think some kids are born with more sensitive personalities, I think some people are more susceptible to rejection or ostracism and can have more severe emotional responses to it (I actually think I am one of those people, but I'm not a violent person). But we've created a culture, an education system, and attitudes about childhood and parenting that don't do a great job with those kids, that expect those children to just suck it up and deal, and it turns out this can result in very troubled, violent people who have these explosive emotions, who feel deep rage and alienation, and have no skills or support system for dealing them. These people are personally responsible for their actions, but as a society we should really be asking ourselves why we are producing so many people like this. We have culpability here too.

So a kid who was belligerently verbally abusing his court appointed therapist was not verbally abusing his mother when she wanted to take his screen time away?
Riiiight. Wishful thinking of how to parent a difficult “overly sensitive” child.

The mother admitted he had a terrible temper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No he does not clearly want love and acceptance.

He wants his way. Or else.

All humans want that. And he is a child.

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Anonymous wrote:People don’t want to believe kids are born this way but a small percentage of kids really are. They just don’t have the same feelings as others.

Think of the James Bulger case where a two year old boy was kidnapped, tortured extensively, and killed by two ten year olds.

That is what the therapist completely realizes but she is hired by the defense. So she is in a quandary of how to write it up when she knows he is evil and has an explosive temper.

She would do her correct right up, submit it, and be fired. Prosecution would then hire her.

I don’t think she was hired to see if he was guilty.

They had the tape. She was supposed to figure out why. Maybe to merit a lighter sentence/sympathy?

I think she was hired to determine competency. She seemed to be trying to get at whether he understood what he had done. That's why she asks him if he understands that death is forever.

I do think she's devastated at the end because she knows how dangerous he is. He's not just a troubled boy who snapped in a moment of passion -- he planned and executed a revenge killing.

I think when he asks her if she likes him, she is sad because of course she doesn't like him, but also she recognizes that her dislike of him, like Katie's dislike of him, can only drive him further towards violence. It's a very disturbing realization.

He clearly wants love and acceptance, but now he will never get it (at least not from women like Briony) because he's shown himself to be capable of so much premeditated violence and hatred.

That's why I do think it's important in the last episode when Jaime's sister Lisa says they need to stay where they are and support Jaime, because he's theirs. Someone does have to step up and love this child. It makes sense that it's his family. That doesn't mean he'll for sure rehabilitate, but he definitely wouldn't without their love and support.

Yes all true, once you determine yours dealing with someone volatile you walk on eggshells. Doctors included.

The rest of the family’s lives are over as now they have to coddle and cater to the most dysfunctional member.

Not uncommon. The murder part is but the rest is not.

No, I think she was crying because she thought the boy was so tragic.

At that point she knew she was safe from him (he was being dragged off by a guard). She did not shudder, she cried. Someone in her field probably cares about children and she is sad that this one is so damaged.

She had to wait to show any emotion (scared, sad) until he was gone. Otherwise he’d know his verbal abuse was effective at riling her.

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Anonymous wrote:No he does not clearly want love and acceptance.

He wants his way. Or else.

All humans want that. And he is a child.

He is not rational. Stop assuming rational drivers or responses to someone totally irrational.

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I've only just started, but was very impressed by the first episode. The performances and camerawork, wow. I felt such anxiety during the arrest scene, and the build-up to the presentation of evidence was so well done. Having trouble resisting binging the rest!

[Anonymous]

The one-shot idea is really interesting and worked surprisingly well for the series format. It was very immersive and worked especially well in the opening scene where they break into the parents' home to arrest Jaime, and in the episode with the therapist.

I read something about how they had to prepare for the production in order to choreograph the shoots. They built models of all the locations and would map out each episode with little models of the actors and of the camera people. They'd have to move the camera from one camperaperson to the next or mount it on a something (as when it follows the family in the car) in the middle of the scene. They had to practice handoffs and the crew had to work very effortlessly with one another. It also enabled the actors to do long takes in character without interruption, which helped them emotionally occupy the characters and also helped create relationships among the characters because they could really immerse themselves in the scene.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the UK tabloids saying this is based on a story of a black 13 yo immigrant snapping and knifing a white girl?

Is that true? And the director chose to make the killer a white boy with mental issues?

Netflix has a show called Adolescence that’s about a British knife killer who stabbed a girl to death on a bus and it’s based on real life cases such as the Southport murderer.

So guess what. They race swapped the actual killer from a black man/migrant to a white boy and the story has it so he was radicalized online by the red pill movement.

Just the absolute state of anti-white propaganda.

This has been explained several time. There are MANY stories of teenage boys killing girls in the UK. Like dozens. Boys of different races, including white. The series is not based on a specific incident. It's inspired by what appears to be a trend of young men stabbing girls to death. The decision to make the boy and his family white was driven in part by the decision to have one of the creators (who is white) play the boy's dad, and to locate the story in northern England, which is less diverse than other parts of the country. It was not a political choice.

If you don't believe me, please go find the apparently singular story of a 13 year old boy killing a girl from school and show us how this series was based on that specific event but with the races swapped. You can't, because the series was not based on such an event. It draws loosely from a number of such killings.

Sure reeks of politics if they’re trying to push it to a parliament session.
Can’t get more political than that.

Bottom line the character killer boy is psychotic. So bringing up refugees, social media, lack of a real father figure won’t be effective.

Sorry you don't have the attention span to read. This was posted upthead



https://www.harpersbazaar...explained/

"Is Adolescence a true story?
While Jamie’s story told in Adolescence isn’t based on a single incident, it does draw influence from a handful of real-life reports of young boys involved in knife crimes. In March 2023, there were almost 18,500 cautions and convictions made for possession of a knife, and 17.3 percent of those offenders were between the ages of 10 and 17, per the House of Commons library.
It shocked me. I was thinking, ‘What’s going on? What’s happening in society where a boy stabs a girl to death? What’s the inciting incident here?’ And then it happened again, and it happened again, and it happened again. I really just wanted to shine a light on it, and ask, ‘Why is this happening today? What’s going on? How have we come to this?’” Graham told Netflix’s Tudum.

“We could have made a drama about gangs and knife crime, or about a kid whose mother is an alcoholic or whose father is a violent abuser,” he continued. “Instead, we wanted you to look at this family and think, ‘My God. This could be happening to us,’ and what’s happening here is an ordinary family’s worst nightmare.’”"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are all the UK tabloids saying this is based on a story of a black 13 yo immigrant snapping and knifing a white girl?

Is that true? And the director chose to make the killer a white boy with mental issues?

Because it is true. The media in the UK is pushing a narrative, and reality is inconvenient.

So media and the director made a movie about a psychopath White boy killer.

But the reality is the knife stabber killer was a black African violent immigrant boy?

So the movie is fictional and attempting to pin it on social media or psychopaths?

Have you been to the UK?!

I lived in Newcastle and I promise most knifings and done by young white poor males. Just watch the news there. When I was there the most disturbing incident in local news was a 14 year old boy who walked up to a stroller in broad daylight and stabbed a 9 month old baby in front of its mother. It's in the news daily there.

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The ending song was sung by Katie, as a nod to her.