Trump planning to revoke TPS for Ukrainians

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Anonymous wrote:El Salvador now has a much lower murder rate than the United States. They went from being the murder capital of the world to the safest in the hemisphere. El Salvador has seen a significant decrease in its murder rate, dropping to a record low of 1.9 homicides per 100,000 people in 2024, which is a 98% reduction since 2015. The murder rate in DC is 30!

They voted in a man who calls himself the world’s coolest dictator and he built a mega prison and rounded up all gang members.

The only people who are afraid of going back to El Salvador know are gang members.

So not sure why anyone from there should have TPS.


That's great news! Maybe we can learn from them and help replicate this in other countries.


I think that's the long-term plan for the US. El Salvador's "world's coolest dictator" (he calls himself that) has managed to get a national state of emergency declared and continuously renewed, suspending basic civil rights and incarcerating thousands without due process. I'm sure MAGA would love that.


Not sure why anyone would throw shade on Nayib Bukele, he's a Latino leader beloved by his people and he's unquestionably turned El Salvador from one of the most dangerous countries on the planet, where violent crime and corruption ran rampant, to one of the safest countries on the planet. The people of El Salvador love and support him overwhelmingly.

America should be more humble when it comes to our Latin American neighbors. We can learn something from El Salvador if we stop pretending we always have all the answers.


No doubt Bukele is very popular in El Salvador ad elsewhere in Latin America. Please list the specific things that we can learn from him that would make sense to implement in the US?


Well, the most obvious thing is that locking up criminals seems to work.



The UShas more prisoners per capita than any other nation in the world. But sure, lock them all up. Starting with Felon 34
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That’s right. Let’s send them back into a war zone. Who’s next? El Salvadoreans?



I’m shocked. Ukrainians are white and that’s the color of immigrants Trump wants. I mean trump must be so far up Putin’s arse that he has forgotten.

OADN, I don’t see Trump and ICE rounding these people up and putting them in a military plane headed to Kiev.


I do. It’s that insane out there.
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Anonymous wrote:Sick, sick, sick.

The silence from the GOP on siding with thug Russia -- our sworn enemy -- is deafening.

Russia may be the sworn enemy of your people, but not of the American people. Go fight your own wars.


OMG. I’m 50 and we’ve never had normalized relations with Russian in my lifetime. Of trended better after 1989 before getting worse. But they haven’t been any ally. This is so “We are at War with Eastasia. We have always been at War with Eastasia”.
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Anonymous wrote:I would like to see peace in Ukraine ASAP.

That said, I do think that every Ukrainian should be offered asylum in the United States -- they are one of the few groups who can truly be called war refugees. I suspect that most Ukrainians will never leave the homeland they have fought so bravely in defense of, but as a gesture of goodwill it would be very powerful.


Most of the Ukrainians do not meet asylum criteria. The problem is that a lot of Ukrainians abused the program (U4U), a lot of people who came here was not even eligible for the program (like they were not in Ukraine on the day the war started, some of them lived in Europe for several years and wasn't even in Ukraine). A lot of fake boyfriends who are not Ukrainians came with Ukrainian girlfriends only by paying them a flight ticket price. A lot of Ukrainians paid several thousands of dollars to fake sponsors and now it popped up in the system that the same person sponsored dozens and sometimes even hundreds of Ukrainian. A lot of Ukrainians came under this program from the areas of Ukraine that were never affected by the war, just to have a free ride to US and now traveling across US and posting their travel blogs. Now instead of weeding out all the false refugees, the government might just shot down the program completely.

Exactly. Each application needs to be throughly examined. The fraud is massive.
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Send them back let them remove Zelensky and make peace with Russia
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Anonymous wrote:I would like to see peace in Ukraine ASAP.

That said, I do think that every Ukrainian should be offered asylum in the United States -- they are one of the few groups who can truly be called war refugees. I suspect that most Ukrainians will never leave the homeland they have fought so bravely in defense of, but as a gesture of goodwill it would be very powerful.


Most of the Ukrainians do not meet asylum criteria. The problem is that a lot of Ukrainians abused the program (U4U), a lot of people who came here was not even eligible for the program (like they were not in Ukraine on the day the war started, some of them lived in Europe for several years and wasn't even in Ukraine). A lot of fake boyfriends who are not Ukrainians came with Ukrainian girlfriends only by paying them a flight ticket price. A lot of Ukrainians paid several thousands of dollars to fake sponsors and now it popped up in the system that the same person sponsored dozens and sometimes even hundreds of Ukrainian. A lot of Ukrainians came under this program from the areas of Ukraine that were never affected by the war, just to have a free ride to US and now traveling across US and posting their travel blogs. Now instead of weeding out all the false refugees, the government might just shot down the program completely.

Exactly. Each application needs to be throughly examined. The fraud is massive.

If this were true, I think you would have credible sources. If it is true, I would be all for examining applications carefully (already happens, FYI) to avoid fraud and abuse. That is not the same cancelling for everyone.

At any rate, if you were so concerned with fraud and abuse and taking advantage of the system for your own personal gain and that of your relatives and friends, I suggest you start with the top grifter, address is 1600 Penn Ave, though you’ll rarely find him there.
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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine is out of the people to be on the front lines. Zelensky clearly expressed his desire to continue the war instead of stopping it. Sending 240,000 people to fight for Ukraine is actually helping Zelensky and helps Ukraine.


It’s isn’t 240,000 18-40 year old men. Lots of families. Elderly, mothers and kids. How does sending them back to starve and be slaughtered help Ukraine?


You need to ask Zelensky this. What does he gain by slaughtering every Ukrainian he can get his hands on already? Why should these people be allowed to escape? I'm sure most of them are cheering on the war. Time to help out.
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Anonymous wrote:Our family became very close with a family of Ukrainian refugees. They have nowhere to go. Their house was bombed, their business is gone. How can we help them to stay in the county legally?


My youngest DD became very good friends with a Ukrainian refugee and we in turn became close with her parents. They are the same boat. Their apartment complex is gone. The parent's jobs are gone. They lost several family members. The wife has a sister who fled to Poland and is currently residing there while in university. But they support her financially for the most part.

My DD came storming down the stairs this morning shouting "Mom! You'll never believe what the idiot is doing now!" and is very worried about what will happen to her friend and her family.
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That’s right. Let’s send them back into a war zone. Who’s next? El Salvadoreans?



War zone is only at 25% of the country, the remaining 75% are a party zone. I went to Ukraine three times last year, and once this year. I have never seen so many expensive car (beside in Dubai and Monaco) like in Kyiv, Lviv and Odessa.
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Anonymous wrote:80% of Ukraine is not controlled by Russia. It is easy to keep it that way, if Ukraine concedes the other 20%.


Why? Why should any country in the modern era be forced by the world into giving up a blade of grass to an unlawfully invading enemy force?


Because they have been fighting since 2014 and they losing badly. They have no more resources, no more humans, no strategy, no pro-Ukrainian top generals. You can either force them to settle at this stage, or to continue destroying the remaining male population and the remaining 75% of the land.
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Anonymous wrote:I would like to see peace in Ukraine ASAP.

That said, I do think that every Ukrainian should be offered asylum in the United States -- they are one of the few groups who can truly be called war refugees. I suspect that most Ukrainians will never leave the homeland they have fought so bravely in defense of, but as a gesture of goodwill it would be very powerful.


I don’t think you understand.

Putin wants to butcher the remaining Ukrainians alive today in order to eradicate their culture.

Trump is going to turn over the 240,000 Ukrainians currently in the U.S. on TPS to Putin. This is akin to FDR turning away the ships full of Jews during WW2 and sending them back to Hitler. Except Trump’s treachery is likely 10x more cases than what FDR did to German Jews.

People will be studying this 75 years from now and saying “WTF were Americans thinking?”


80% of Ukraine is not under active attacks and pretty safe. Plus, at least half of those 250,000 came here not from Ukraine directly, but from Poland, Germany, France, Norway and other European countries who offered them refugee status. THey did not like it there because the language is difficult, no benefits, no jobs, so they moved to US even though under U4U they should not be eligible for the parole since they were not physically present in Ukraine on 2/24/22.

Has he sent any back yet?


He paused any reviews for U4U and TSP for Ukrainians. Once they naturally expire, those people either have to self-deport or choose to stay here illegally.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sick, sick, sick.

The silence from the GOP on siding with thug Russia -- our sworn enemy -- is deafening.

Russia may be the sworn enemy of your people, but not of the American people. Go fight your own wars.


OMG. I’m 50 and we’ve never had normalized relations with Russian in my lifetime. Of trended better after 1989 before getting worse. But they haven’t been any ally. This is so “We are at War with Eastasia. We have always been at War with Eastasia”.


That PP above you is just psyops. Even the majority of GOP believe that Russia is the enemy or not an ally.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sick, sick, sick.

The silence from the GOP on siding with thug Russia -- our sworn enemy -- is deafening.

Russia may be the sworn enemy of your people, but not of the American people. Go fight your own wars.


Wrong. Russia is our enemy. We are supporting Ukraine, have been formally supporting them for decades.

Anyone who gives them aid and comfort now is a traitor. *ahem*


How exactly have you been supporting Ukraine for decades if US funded Orange revolution, election of incompetent Zelensky and several other criminal ventures that led to destruction of Ukraine's independence? And who are "we"? None of the Americans want to see the largest and one of the most powerful nuclear country as an enemy? Why do you want Russia as an enemy?
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Anonymous wrote:Our family became very close with a family of Ukrainian refugees. They have nowhere to go. Their house was bombed, their business is gone. How can we help them to stay in the county legally?
There are many legal ways to come and to stay in US. Consult with immigration attorney to determine what are their options to stay here.


They consulted and were told that there are no legal ways to switch a status right now.


There are tons of options to come to US legally. If they don't qualified for any single of them, there must be a reason. They should leave US then.
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Anonymous wrote:Our family became very close with a family of Ukrainian refugees. They have nowhere to go. Their house was bombed, their business is gone. How can we help them to stay in the county legally?


My youngest DD became very good friends with a Ukrainian refugee and we in turn became close with her parents. They are the same boat. Their apartment complex is gone. The parent's jobs are gone. They lost several family members. The wife has a sister who fled to Poland and is currently residing there while in university. But they support her financially for the most part.

My DD came storming down the stairs this morning shouting "Mom! You'll never believe what the idiot is doing now!" and is very worried about what will happen to her friend and her family.


Truly awful to be abused by Putin and now Trump. Keep us posted. I’m not religious, but I’ll ask the universe for some favors.
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