CS majors are not learning coding. Coding is a mean to solving problems. You are repeating yourself. |
Upenn already has the major within Engineering and other top schools are incorporating AI into to computer science and other engineering majors. The schools that began adapting their curricula 1-3 yrs ago will have grads who are ready for AI and other new technology. These schools are the ones not seeing a slide in computer engineering or CS hiring with 2024&5 grads. Whether they call it engineering with ethics or AI or startup/design experience, the top programs already know that the basic CS degree that is mostly programming is already outdated. Rice, CMU, MIT, UPenn, princeton, Stanford, Columbia and even Yale have already adapted CS and overall engineering curricula and have grads that do very well in the job market. Berkeley is the public school at the forefront of change. Other top publics will follow but it takes funding to constantly adapt and raise the bar. |
Won’t all these also be overtaken by AI? If not, why not? |
AGI Humanoid would be way better in all those
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Grad school is already becoming more necessary than 10 yrs ago for CS. AI as a major or part of a BSE education keeps the bachelors degree more marketable. College students need to understand they have to take a rigorous selection of courses, and they should push themselves to take the highest level courses that are open to them as undergrads. They also need to maximize their industry experience if they want a top job in CS with a bachelors: industry experience after sophomore year is available for those who have already built a strong transcript of Stem/CS and typically have research experience with CS or adjacent field professors (math, engineering, physics). Pick undergrad wisely and do not waste the first two years coasting in intros |
Stem professor spouse advises the same thing. PhDs are free (and cover living expenses) and masters are only worth it if you have funding to cover it without loans or you are way ahead and able to do it as part of 4 yr undergraduate. |
| As long as you know how to create and manage an AI agent, you will be fine in whatever career your choose according to my non-tech husband who listens to lots of podcasts. |
So you are the “don’t major in CS guy” but you must at least minor in it or do something technical? Yikes. A distinction without a difference: you just lost all credibility. |
What is that |
Hey, don't get angry about a response to your poorly worded comment. BTW, how many of your 1MM are from India and China? If you don't graduate from just like 10-20 colleges in India, your degree is nothing more than sending away for a correspondence school degree. China has more legit colleges, but still a large number of absolutely garbage ones. It's estimated that 80% - 90% of all STEM graduates in those countries aren't qualified whatsoever. Finally, in the US, only 50% of the graduates of top CS schools actually work a job that directly uses their degrees. The other 50% work for McKinsey or a hedge fund or a VC or an investment bank...etc. I get that this only applies to the top 10-20 schools. However, clearly if AI will reduce CS employment by 95% overall..that's a problem. |
Thanks for sharing this! What job would a Symbolic Systems degree lead to? |
If your kid actually wants to get into these schools, might I suggest that you back off your tech lifejacket altogether? Many of these majors are seen as backdoors to CS and eventual CS majors or double majors once they enroll. (You even have CS double/joint majors on your list already; sounds like not double majoring is your peeve, not having CS as one major — you should have made that clear). Even on your terms, almost every major you mention has a sequence of computer science and like courses as a part of it. Think about it this way: computer science is over-saturated as a major. Every single CS course is over-enrolled. How does your kid help this problem? People on this board think a humanities and computer science major balances out and colleges will want them because they need more humanities students. No, it means the school has yet another computer science major or yet another kid sucking up computer science resources (by being a Cognitive Science natural language processing type or whatever). It is a net loss. They will take the real humanities kid any day. As for public policy, read what I said above and apply it to Econ… |
The same a Cognitive Science degree would lead to. It is the same thing. |
+1 That "alternative " majors list was laughable. Another anonymous DCUM CS "expert" bites the dust. |
How about electrical engineering? Would that be a marketable degree? |