Teacher accountability for paperwork

[Anonymous]

HS teachers should teach 4 classes a day not 5. Five is too many. Teachers in private schools teach 4 classes a day and class sizes are smaller too. I switched to private and it is so much better. I actually have time to plan good lessons and also get grading done.

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Who is “we?” Your power begins and ends with your votes for school board. Take the ego down a notch.

Board members are going to get in there to tell teachers to grade?? Ha! But you could communicate with Taylor to let him know your principal(s) are not making sure their teachers are grading on time/actually entering AND synching grades on time.

Nobody is making sure teachers have time to do any of that.

In the case of professional jobs, employees are expected to manage their own available time to complete their assigned work by the deadlines provided.

Teachers don't have "their own available time."

Yes, they do.

When? When do they consistently have time during their work day that isn't taken over by meetings, covering for colleagues etc?

Sounds like the same challenges any salaried professional faces.

No, not “any” salaried professional. I’m not buying that.

Grading, planning, responding to parents, updating data, checking accommodations, attending meetings… these are all critical parts of our job. Added together, those tasks are comfortably half our job; it’s the half that makes our time in the classroom run smoothly.

We may receive 30 minutes a day to get it done, and it can easily be over 4 hours of work. And those 30 minutes are often taken away by some last-minute need, like covering for a colleague.

So teaching relies on off-hours. Not occasionally. Always. Every single day.

Yes, this happens to SOME other professionals. Again: nobody is disputing that. And that’s not okay for them, either. If your job demands many of your home hours to get essential work done, then you’re being taken advantage of as well.

Have you ever worked in any other profession? The vast majority of salaried jobs today require after hours work. It's expected.

Most office jobs cannot be compared to jobs like teaching and nursing.

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Who is “we?” Your power begins and ends with your votes for school board. Take the ego down a notch.

Board members are going to get in there to tell teachers to grade?? Ha! But you could communicate with Taylor to let him know your principal(s) are not making sure their teachers are grading on time/actually entering AND synching grades on time.

Nobody is making sure teachers have time to do any of that.

In the case of professional jobs, employees are expected to manage their own available time to complete their assigned work by the deadlines provided.

Teachers don't have "their own available time."

Yes, they do.

When? When do they consistently have time during their work day that isn't taken over by meetings, covering for colleagues etc?

Sounds like the same challenges any salaried professional faces.

No, not “any” salaried professional. I’m not buying that.

Grading, planning, responding to parents, updating data, checking accommodations, attending meetings… these are all critical parts of our job. Added together, those tasks are comfortably half our job; it’s the half that makes our time in the classroom run smoothly.

We may receive 30 minutes a day to get it done, and it can easily be over 4 hours of work. And those 30 minutes are often taken away by some last-minute need, like covering for a colleague.

So teaching relies on off-hours. Not occasionally. Always. Every single day.

Yes, this happens to SOME other professionals. Again: nobody is disputing that. And that’s not okay for them, either. If your job demands many of your home hours to get essential work done, then you’re being taken advantage of as well.

Have you ever worked in any other profession? The vast majority of salaried jobs today require after hours work. It's expected.

Most office jobs cannot be compared to jobs like teaching and nursing.

I’ve worked an another profession. Teaching is far more work and considerably more exhausting.

[Anonymous]

Other countries treat teachers like lawyers and here in America we are treated like a blend of slaves and patsies to be blamed why everything fuqtup

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

some are so much slower at grading

Sure, but they might have other duties that slow them down compared to your child’s other teachers.

I have more special education students than the other person who teaches the same course. I’ve attended 6 IEP or 504 meetings so far this marking period. She’s attended one.

I’ve done twice as much class coverage as that teachers because of the timing of my planning periods.

Every time I worry about returning work within a couple days like my counterpart, my RT says “You’re fine.”

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Some teachers have no planning period bc admin needs to use them as subs. Some teachers work 2 jobs so they can only give 60 hours to they 40 hr/wk co react. Some teachers are getting the run around by admin trying to set them up for failure by doing busy work instead of teaching/grading. There's alot of mismanagement and pressure to fraud for optics in mcps. Dont mention the absurd disrespect and violence or you will be ostracized from the profession.

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Anonymous wrote:Some teachers have no planning period bc admin needs to use them as subs. Some teachers work 2 jobs so they can only give 60 hours to they 40 hr/wk co react. Some teachers are getting the run around by admin trying to set them up for failure by doing busy work instead of teaching/grading. There's alot of mismanagement and pressure to fraud for optics in mcps. Dont mention the absurd disrespect and violence or you will be ostracized from the profession.

Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can teachers there go on "work to rule"?

Saskatchewan (Canada) teachers did it last year. They fulfilled their contractual obligations to a T. Nothing more. It opened eyes, and caused a LOT of complaints.

I'm not saying it needs to happen, I'm just curious.

I taught in a public district (not in this area) that did this twenty years ago. It definitely made the board and community realize how much teachers work outside of working hours!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers teach. I am a National Board Certified teacher. We are experts in teaching. Yet, we are drowning in paperwork. You know what I don't have time to do... paperwork. Documenting all of the times that I have contacted parents of students who are failing. Documenting all of the times that I have asked a student to come in at lunch to make up or redo assignments. Why is it my job to prove that the student turned in Zero assignments? or wrote 2 sentences for their National History Day project that we spent 3 months working on. Parents have instant access to grades. Yet, parents complain that they didn't know their kid was failing, because when I tried to call them multiple times, they don't answer the phone or return my call. When I text them with Remind, they apparently didn't get it. When I send messages through Synergy or myMCPS Classroom or Outlook, they don't get them.

My planning time over the last 25 years has not changed. I still get 45 minutes a day to plan, grade, create and copy. On top of that, I have to fit in parent contact and all of the other paperwork. Parents complain, so now I have to post all of my lessons online, even if students don't touch the computer in class. But, I have to do for the student who sat in my class and did nothing in the hopes that they will go home and do the work. Oh, and I have to fit in all of the IEP paperwork. Every year, this increases.

I have been teaching for 25 years. I will be leaving at the end of the year. You know why? Paperwork. And because parents think I am lazy.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:We already have a teacher shortage. I’d love for the OP to try being a teacher with an unsustainable workload, student behaviors and complaining parents. Thanks.

I’m a SAP who would be happy to help teachers in any way. I asked twice, but never received a response.

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Anonymous wrote:We already have a teacher shortage. I’d love for the OP to try being a teacher with an unsustainable workload, student behaviors and complaining parents. Thanks.

I’m a SAP who would be happy to help teachers in any way. I asked twice, but never received a response.

Sign up to sub so teachers don't have to give up planning periods to do it.

[Anonymous]

If parents saw what we deal with they would stop complaining to admin to get us fired if we don't inflate grades.

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Anonymous wrote:Can teachers there go on "work to rule"?

Saskatchewan (Canada) teachers did it last year. They fulfilled their contractual obligations to a T. Nothing more. It opened eyes, and caused a LOT of complaints.

I'm not saying it needs to happen, I'm just curious.

I taught in a public district (not in this area) that did this twenty years ago. It definitely made the board and community realize how much teachers work outside of working hours!

I think many professions should start doing this. It would help put an end to the “do more with less” mentality or the idea that people should do the work of 2-5 people with the pay of one person. This is why corporations are so interested in AI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can teachers there go on "work to rule"?

Saskatchewan (Canada) teachers did it last year. They fulfilled their contractual obligations to a T. Nothing more. It opened eyes, and caused a LOT of complaints.

I'm not saying it needs to happen, I'm just curious.

I taught in a public district (not in this area) that did this twenty years ago. It definitely made the board and community realize how much teachers work outside of working hours!

I think many professions should start doing this. It would help put an end to the “do more with less” mentality or the idea that people should do the work of 2-5 people with the pay of one person. This is why corporations are so interested in AI.

I think it’s easier for teachers to work to their contract because we actually have contracted hours. I rarely work outside of them. I work a second job after school because I don’t make enough to pay my bills as a teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can teachers there go on "work to rule"?

Saskatchewan (Canada) teachers did it last year. They fulfilled their contractual obligations to a T. Nothing more. It opened eyes, and caused a LOT of complaints.

I'm not saying it needs to happen, I'm just curious.

I taught in a public district (not in this area) that did this twenty years ago. It definitely made the board and community realize how much teachers work outside of working hours!

I think many professions should start doing this. It would help put an end to the “do more with less” mentality or the idea that people should do the work of 2-5 people with the pay of one person. This is why corporations are so interested in AI.

I think it’s easier for teachers to work to their contract because we actually have contracted hours. I rarely work outside of them. I work a second job after school because I don’t make enough to pay my bills as a teacher.

You're a troll, even though you stuck the landing on not making enough money.