Teacher accountability for paperwork

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Who is “we?” Your power begins and ends with your votes for school board. Take the ego down a notch.

Board members are going to get in there to tell teachers to grade?? Ha! But you could communicate with Taylor to let him know your principal(s) are not making sure their teachers are grading on time/actually entering AND synching grades on time.

Nobody is making sure teachers have time to do any of that.

In the case of professional jobs, employees are expected to manage their own available time to complete their assigned work by the deadlines provided.

Teachers don't have "their own available time."

Yes, they do.

When? When do they consistently have time during their work day that isn't taken over by meetings, covering for colleagues etc?

Sounds like the same challenges any salaried professional faces.

You didn't answer the question. When do they have that time?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Who is “we?” Your power begins and ends with your votes for school board. Take the ego down a notch.

Board members are going to get in there to tell teachers to grade?? Ha! But you could communicate with Taylor to let him know your principal(s) are not making sure their teachers are grading on time/actually entering AND synching grades on time.

Nobody is making sure teachers have time to do any of that.

In the case of professional jobs, employees are expected to manage their own available time to complete their assigned work by the deadlines provided.

Teachers don't have "their own available time."

Yes, they do.

When? When do they consistently have time during their work day that isn't taken over by meetings, covering for colleagues etc?

Sounds like the same challenges any salaried professional faces.

You didn't answer the question. When do they have that time?

Before and after everything else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Who is “we?” Your power begins and ends with your votes for school board. Take the ego down a notch.

Board members are going to get in there to tell teachers to grade?? Ha! But you could communicate with Taylor to let him know your principal(s) are not making sure their teachers are grading on time/actually entering AND synching grades on time.

Nobody is making sure teachers have time to do any of that.

In the case of professional jobs, employees are expected to manage their own available time to complete their assigned work by the deadlines provided.

Teachers don't have "their own available time."

Yes, they do.

When? When do they consistently have time during their work day that isn't taken over by meetings, covering for colleagues etc?

Sounds like the same challenges any salaried professional faces.

You didn't answer the question. When do they have that time?

When do any of us have time?? Lunch, evenings, weekends… do teachers actually think other professions punch out at 5:00 and do nothing else? Or, at 3 or 4, if we want to compare hours to a teacher’s lol

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why others are annoyed at the suggestion. Students need to know how they are doing and get feedback.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not really sure what you mean with "maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly". Lessons are available for the student in class. Students are to be in class and complete the learning in class. Long are the days of asynchronous lessons. Assignments are given out in class. Students have access to work in the classroom. I post them in myMCPS Classroom, if that is where I want them to complete it. But often times it is done on paper.

As a teacher, paperwork is the last thing on my list of things to do. It is the first thing that I cut. This is one of the many reasons why teachers are overworked. We have to plan the lesson. Make copies of the handouts/worksheets/assignments. That alone can take time because the copy machines are always broken or there is a line. Then we have to teach the lesson. Students are expected to complete the work in class and then possibly for homework. Students then turn in the assignment. I grade it. And this is all for one lesson/class. I have three preps, so this is tripled. 5 days a week, 25 lessons per week, if I am lucky I get 5 45 minute planning periods a week to do all of this.

Maybe stop blaming teachers and fight for appropriate time for teachers to complete these tasks that you want us to do.

This doesn't sound like MCPS as the PTA cannot buy a computer and often you have multiple periods of the same classes. Many of the assignments are also online and auto graded. Some teachers don't actually look at content and just it being done.

In this situation the teacher should have made this the principal's problem. While I do know that there are (limited chargers to be handed out because students were not being given them or Chromebooks earlier this year), it is not on the teacher to find or pay for a charger replacement without reimbursement. So if the principal is refusing to reimburse and CO will not agree to the reimbursement for a potentially unsafe charger, then they are responsible for providing the teacher with either a new laptop/computer that will allow them to complete the job. As long as teachers/PTA keep replacing this items, it allows school districts and administrators to make bad administrative decisions.

And private corporation that requires personal device use or user supplied materials list that in their job descirption/contract. Otherwise it is expected the company will provide the resources or funding.

Don’t forget all of the issues with malfunctioning laptops or chargers that MCPS won’t replace. On 12/20, my first period students watched sparks come out of my charger. I was scared to continue using it for fear of causing a fire. I asked for a replacement , but was told there are no replacements and I should buy one on Amazon. My principal refused to agree to reimburse me. I emailed the PTA and they ordered one. Until then, I have it sitting on a fire blanket if I need to charge it.

This doesn't sound like MCPS as the PTA cannot buy a computer and often you have multiple periods of the same classes. Many of the assignments are also online and auto graded. Some teachers don't actually look at content and just it being done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not really sure what you mean with "maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly". Lessons are available for the student in class. Students are to be in class and complete the learning in class. Long are the days of asynchronous lessons. Assignments are given out in class. Students have access to work in the classroom. I post them in myMCPS Classroom, if that is where I want them to complete it. But often times it is done on paper.

As a teacher, paperwork is the last thing on my list of things to do. It is the first thing that I cut. This is one of the many reasons why teachers are overworked. We have to plan the lesson. Make copies of the handouts/worksheets/assignments. That alone can take time because the copy machines are always broken or there is a line. Then we have to teach the lesson. Students are expected to complete the work in class and then possibly for homework. Students then turn in the assignment. I grade it. And this is all for one lesson/class. I have three preps, so this is tripled. 5 days a week, 25 lessons per week, if I am lucky I get 5 45 minute planning periods a week to do all of this.

Maybe stop blaming teachers and fight for appropriate time for teachers to complete these tasks that you want us to do.

This doesn't sound like MCPS as the PTA cannot buy a computer and often you have multiple periods of the same classes. Many of the assignments are also online and auto graded. Some teachers don't actually look at content and just it being done.

In this situation the teacher should have made this the principal's problem. While I do know that there are (limited chargers to be handed out because students were not being given them or Chromebooks earlier this year), it is not on the teacher to find or pay for a charger replacement without reimbursement. So if the principal is refusing to reimburse and CO will not agree to the reimbursement for a potentially unsafe charger, then they are responsible for providing the teacher with either a new laptop/computer that will allow them to complete the job. As long as teachers/PTA keep replacing this items, it allows school districts and administrators to make bad administrative decisions.

And private corporation that requires personal device use or user supplied materials list that in their job descirption/contract. Otherwise it is expected the company will provide the resources or funding.

Don’t forget all of the issues with malfunctioning laptops or chargers that MCPS won’t replace. On 12/20, my first period students watched sparks come out of my charger. I was scared to continue using it for fear of causing a fire. I asked for a replacement , but was told there are no replacements and I should buy one on Amazon. My principal refused to agree to reimburse me. I emailed the PTA and they ordered one. Until then, I have it sitting on a fire blanket if I need to charge it.

This might be expected, but it isn't required under Maryland law.

It's implied by MCEA's CBA, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not really sure what you mean with "maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly". Lessons are available for the student in class. Students are to be in class and complete the learning in class. Long are the days of asynchronous lessons. Assignments are given out in class. Students have access to work in the classroom. I post them in myMCPS Classroom, if that is where I want them to complete it. But often times it is done on paper.

As a teacher, paperwork is the last thing on my list of things to do. It is the first thing that I cut. This is one of the many reasons why teachers are overworked. We have to plan the lesson. Make copies of the handouts/worksheets/assignments. That alone can take time because the copy machines are always broken or there is a line. Then we have to teach the lesson. Students are expected to complete the work in class and then possibly for homework. Students then turn in the assignment. I grade it. And this is all for one lesson/class. I have three preps, so this is tripled. 5 days a week, 25 lessons per week, if I am lucky I get 5 45 minute planning periods a week to do all of this.

Maybe stop blaming teachers and fight for appropriate time for teachers to complete these tasks that you want us to do.

This doesn't sound like MCPS as the PTA cannot buy a computer and often you have multiple periods of the same classes. Many of the assignments are also online and auto graded. Some teachers don't actually look at content and just it being done.

In this situation the teacher should have made this the principal's problem. While I do know that there are (limited chargers to be handed out because students were not being given them or Chromebooks earlier this year), it is not on the teacher to find or pay for a charger replacement without reimbursement. So if the principal is refusing to reimburse and CO will not agree to the reimbursement for a potentially unsafe charger, then they are responsible for providing the teacher with either a new laptop/computer that will allow them to complete the job. As long as teachers/PTA keep replacing this items, it allows school districts and administrators to make bad administrative decisions.

And private corporation that requires personal device use or user supplied materials list that in their job descirption/contract. Otherwise it is expected the company will provide the resources or funding.

Don’t forget all of the issues with malfunctioning laptops or chargers that MCPS won’t replace. On 12/20, my first period students watched sparks come out of my charger. I was scared to continue using it for fear of causing a fire. I asked for a replacement , but was told there are no replacements and I should buy one on Amazon. My principal refused to agree to reimburse me. I emailed the PTA and they ordered one. Until then, I have it sitting on a fire blanket if I need to charge it.

This doesn't sound like MCPS as the PTA cannot buy a computer and often you have multiple periods of the same classes. Many of the assignments are also online and auto graded. Some teachers don't actually look at content and just it being done.

I think she said the PTA bought her a laptop charger, not a laptop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not really sure what you mean with "maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly". Lessons are available for the student in class. Students are to be in class and complete the learning in class. Long are the days of asynchronous lessons. Assignments are given out in class. Students have access to work in the classroom. I post them in myMCPS Classroom, if that is where I want them to complete it. But often times it is done on paper.

As a teacher, paperwork is the last thing on my list of things to do. It is the first thing that I cut. This is one of the many reasons why teachers are overworked. We have to plan the lesson. Make copies of the handouts/worksheets/assignments. That alone can take time because the copy machines are always broken or there is a line. Then we have to teach the lesson. Students are expected to complete the work in class and then possibly for homework. Students then turn in the assignment. I grade it. And this is all for one lesson/class. I have three preps, so this is tripled. 5 days a week, 25 lessons per week, if I am lucky I get 5 45 minute planning periods a week to do all of this.

Maybe stop blaming teachers and fight for appropriate time for teachers to complete these tasks that you want us to do.

This doesn't sound like MCPS as the PTA cannot buy a computer and often you have multiple periods of the same classes. Many of the assignments are also online and auto graded. Some teachers don't actually look at content and just it being done.

In this situation the teacher should have made this the principal's problem. While I do know that there are (limited chargers to be handed out because students were not being given them or Chromebooks earlier this year), it is not on the teacher to find or pay for a charger replacement without reimbursement. So if the principal is refusing to reimburse and CO will not agree to the reimbursement for a potentially unsafe charger, then they are responsible for providing the teacher with either a new laptop/computer that will allow them to complete the job. As long as teachers/PTA keep replacing this items, it allows school districts and administrators to make bad administrative decisions.

And private corporation that requires personal device use or user supplied materials list that in their job descirption/contract. Otherwise it is expected the company will provide the resources or funding.

Don’t forget all of the issues with malfunctioning laptops or chargers that MCPS won’t replace. On 12/20, my first period students watched sparks come out of my charger. I was scared to continue using it for fear of causing a fire. I asked for a replacement , but was told there are no replacements and I should buy one on Amazon. My principal refused to agree to reimburse me. I emailed the PTA and they ordered one. Until then, I have it sitting on a fire blanket if I need to charge it.

This doesn't sound like MCPS as the PTA cannot buy a computer and often you have multiple periods of the same classes. Many of the assignments are also online and auto graded. Some teachers don't actually look at content and just it being done.

I think she said the PTA bought her a laptop charger, not a laptop.

PTA should not be paying for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Who is “we?” Your power begins and ends with your votes for school board. Take the ego down a notch.

Board members are going to get in there to tell teachers to grade?? Ha! But you could communicate with Taylor to let him know your principal(s) are not making sure their teachers are grading on time/actually entering AND synching grades on time.

Nobody is making sure teachers have time to do any of that.

In the case of professional jobs, employees are expected to manage their own available time to complete their assigned work by the deadlines provided.

Teachers don't have "their own available time."

Yes, they do.

When? When do they consistently have time during their work day that isn't taken over by meetings, covering for colleagues etc?

Sounds like the same challenges any salaried professional faces.

No, not “any” salaried professional. I’m not buying that.

Grading, planning, responding to parents, updating data, checking accommodations, attending meetings… these are all critical parts of our job. Added together, those tasks are comfortably half our job; it’s the half that makes our time in the classroom run smoothly.

We may receive 30 minutes a day to get it done, and it can easily be over 4 hours of work. And those 30 minutes are often taken away by some last-minute need, like covering for a colleague.

So teaching relies on off-hours. Not occasionally. Always. Every single day.

Yes, this happens to SOME other professionals. Again: nobody is disputing that. And that’s not okay for them, either. If your job demands many of your home hours to get essential work done, then you’re being taken advantage of as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A four day week for students might be the perfect solution.

On Mondays, teachers have planning time and any meetings or trainings.

Tuesday through Friday, students have class for eight hours rather than 6.5. Because planning occurs on Mondays, teachers could teach seven classes rather than five, which would reduce class sizes.

When holidays or emergency closings occur in Mondays, the next day open is teacher planning.

Oh, the hysteria that would ensue. But…but mah BABYSITTING!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Who is “we?” Your power begins and ends with your votes for school board. Take the ego down a notch.

Board members are going to get in there to tell teachers to grade?? Ha! But you could communicate with Taylor to let him know your principal(s) are not making sure their teachers are grading on time/actually entering AND synching grades on time.

Nobody is making sure teachers have time to do any of that.

In the case of professional jobs, employees are expected to manage their own available time to complete their assigned work by the deadlines provided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Who is “we?” Your power begins and ends with your votes for school board. Take the ego down a notch.

Board members are going to get in there to tell teachers to grade?? Ha! But you could communicate with Taylor to let him know your principal(s) are not making sure their teachers are grading on time/actually entering AND synching grades on time.

Nobody is making sure teachers have time to do any of that.

In the case of professional jobs, employees are expected to manage their own available time to complete their assigned work by the deadlines provided.

Teachers don't have "their own available time."

Yes, they do.

No, they don’t. And they aren’t doing it at home, so banish that “thought” from your dim little head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Are “we” ensuring they receive enough time to complete paperwork tasks? Are “we” not assigning them to cover other duties during their 30 minute unpaid lunch or covering classes during planning periods?

What are “we” doing to make sure to balance the amount of unnecessary clerical tasks that should/could be done by someone else so that teachers can focus on planning and implementing effective instruction?

Are “we” allowing policies to force administrators to EFFECTIVELY deal with behavior issues so teachers aren’t using planning time to address them for the hundredth time?

Are “we” controlling the number of students in classes? 25 students vs 35 makes a huge difference in paperwork!

[Anonymous]

If teachers were paid hourly, they’d make a lot more money.

But alas, teachers are contractual salaried, which is different from regular salaried positions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Are “we” ensuring they receive enough time to complete paperwork tasks? Are “we” not assigning them to cover other duties during their 30 minute unpaid lunch or covering classes during planning periods?

What are “we” doing to make sure to balance the amount of unnecessary clerical tasks that should/could be done by someone else so that teachers can focus on planning and implementing effective instruction?

Are “we” allowing policies to force administrators to EFFECTIVELY deal with behavior issues so teachers aren’t using planning time to address them for the hundredth time?

Are “we” controlling the number of students in classes? 25 students vs 35 makes a huge difference in paperwork!

You are far too reasonable to be on DCUM.