Teacher accountability for paperwork

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Anonymous wrote:Teacher's paperwork is all tracked in Canvas/Synergy/Vue

How do we convince admin to look at the data and put pressure on the 10% who are terrible at maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly?

Who is “we?” Your power begins and ends with your votes for school board. Take the ego down a notch.

Board members are going to get in there to tell teachers to grade?? Ha! But you could communicate with Taylor to let him know your principal(s) are not making sure their teachers are grading on time/actually entering AND synching grades on time.

Nobody is making sure teachers have time to do any of that.

In the case of professional jobs, employees are expected to manage their own available time to complete their assigned work by the deadlines provided.

Teachers don't have "their own available time."

Yes, they do.

When? When do they consistently have time during their work day that isn't taken over by meetings, covering for colleagues etc?

Sounds like the same challenges any salaried professional faces.

No, not “any” salaried professional. I’m not buying that.

Grading, planning, responding to parents, updating data, checking accommodations, attending meetings… these are all critical parts of our job. Added together, those tasks are comfortably half our job; it’s the half that makes our time in the classroom run smoothly.

We may receive 30 minutes a day to get it done, and it can easily be over 4 hours of work. And those 30 minutes are often taken away by some last-minute need, like covering for a colleague.

So teaching relies on off-hours. Not occasionally. Always. Every single day.

Yes, this happens to SOME other professionals. Again: nobody is disputing that. And that’s not okay for them, either. If your job demands many of your home hours to get essential work done, then you’re being taken advantage of as well.

THAT.

I'm thinking of various professionals who now say "nope, your understaffing is not my problem."

Salaried does not mean 24/7, in any profession. Or 16 hour days or whatever the other pp works who thinks it's normal.

Besides any and all of this, as long as teachers are completing grading on their district's timeline, there is nothing for people to complain about.

People don't realize what is actually required by a teacher. It's interesting when they fulfill their contracted duties and nothing els3. People lose their crap.

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Anonymous wrote:Not really sure what you mean with "maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly". Lessons are available for the student in class. Students are to be in class and complete the learning in class. Long are the days of asynchronous lessons. Assignments are given out in class. Students have access to work in the classroom. I post them in myMCPS Classroom, if that is where I want them to complete it. But often times it is done on paper.

As a teacher, paperwork is the last thing on my list of things to do. It is the first thing that I cut. This is one of the many reasons why teachers are overworked. We have to plan the lesson. Make copies of the handouts/worksheets/assignments. That alone can take time because the copy machines are always broken or there is a line. Then we have to teach the lesson. Students are expected to complete the work in class and then possibly for homework. Students then turn in the assignment. I grade it. And this is all for one lesson/class. I have three preps, so this is tripled. 5 days a week, 25 lessons per week, if I am lucky I get 5 45 minute planning periods a week to do all of this.

Maybe stop blaming teachers and fight for appropriate time for teachers to complete these tasks that you want us to do.

There should be a student teacher for every higher level course!!

Tell me you’re not a teacher without telling me you’re not a teacher.
Student teachers are there to learn how to teach. They are not in any way able to take over in a significant way. Usually having one means more work for the cooperating teacher and more, you got it, paperwork.

Not a student teacher. But the model could be one in which each course has co-teachers. It could be a PT gig, they could attract more qualified adults if it was PT, maybe. Adults who left profession for parenthood but still are qualified etc..

You realize it’s difficult to fully staff one teacher for every class and your proposal is to have 2 in each??? Is this for secondary only? So HS has 2 teachers per class and kindergartners have one teacher for 26 kids? Brilliant! Let us know when you start your campaign for Board Member!!!

Call your tits.

The reason it's so hard to start teaches is because every teacher is doing the job of 1.5 teachers. If the workload was spread out, more people would want the job.

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Anonymous wrote:Not really sure what you mean with "maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly". Lessons are available for the student in class. Students are to be in class and complete the learning in class. Long are the days of asynchronous lessons. Assignments are given out in class. Students have access to work in the classroom. I post them in myMCPS Classroom, if that is where I want them to complete it. But often times it is done on paper.

As a teacher, paperwork is the last thing on my list of things to do. It is the first thing that I cut. This is one of the many reasons why teachers are overworked. We have to plan the lesson. Make copies of the handouts/worksheets/assignments. That alone can take time because the copy machines are always broken or there is a line. Then we have to teach the lesson. Students are expected to complete the work in class and then possibly for homework. Students then turn in the assignment. I grade it. And this is all for one lesson/class. I have three preps, so this is tripled. 5 days a week, 25 lessons per week, if I am lucky I get 5 45 minute planning periods a week to do all of this.

Maybe stop blaming teachers and fight for appropriate time for teachers to complete these tasks that you want us to do.

There should be a student teacher for every higher level course!!

Tell me you’re not a teacher without telling me you’re not a teacher.
Student teachers are there to learn how to teach. They are not in any way able to take over in a significant way. Usually having one means more work for the cooperating teacher and more, you got it, paperwork.

Not a student teacher. But the model could be one in which each course has co-teachers. It could be a PT gig, they could attract more qualified adults if it was PT, maybe. Adults who left profession for parenthood but still are qualified etc..

You realize it’s difficult to fully staff one teacher for every class and your proposal is to have 2 in each??? Is this for secondary only? So HS has 2 teachers per class and kindergartners have one teacher for 26 kids? Brilliant! Let us know when you start your campaign for Board Member!!!

Call your tits.

The reason it's so hard to start teaches is because every teacher is doing the job of 1.5 teachers. If the workload was spread out, more people would want the job.

I call them Daisy and Maisy.

[Anonymous]

Teachers: you do not need to fill out teacher reports if you attended the 504 meeting in person. Your counselor is supposed to give you the choice. If they insist you attend in person, skip the form.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers: you do not need to fill out teacher reports if you attended the 504 meeting in person. Your counselor is supposed to give you the choice. If they insist you attend in person, skip the form.

This is not true.

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If they demand we work double overtime they should pay us 2 salaries.

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Can teachers there go on "work to rule"?

Saskatchewan (Canada) teachers did it last year. They fulfilled their contractual obligations to a T. Nothing more. It opened eyes, and caused a LOT of complaints.

I'm not saying it needs to happen, I'm just curious.

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Anonymous wrote:Not really sure what you mean with "maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly". Lessons are available for the student in class. Students are to be in class and complete the learning in class. Long are the days of asynchronous lessons. Assignments are given out in class. Students have access to work in the classroom. I post them in myMCPS Classroom, if that is where I want them to complete it. But often times it is done on paper.

As a teacher, paperwork is the last thing on my list of things to do. It is the first thing that I cut. This is one of the many reasons why teachers are overworked. We have to plan the lesson. Make copies of the handouts/worksheets/assignments. That alone can take time because the copy machines are always broken or there is a line. Then we have to teach the lesson. Students are expected to complete the work in class and then possibly for homework. Students then turn in the assignment. I grade it. And this is all for one lesson/class. I have three preps, so this is tripled. 5 days a week, 25 lessons per week, if I am lucky I get 5 45 minute planning periods a week to do all of this.

Maybe stop blaming teachers and fight for appropriate time for teachers to complete these tasks that you want us to do.

There should be a student teacher for every higher level course!!

Nice idea PP, but having a student teacher results in *more* work for the teacher, not less. The teacher is training/mentoring.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why others are annoyed at the suggestion. Students need to know how they are doing and get feedback.

I definitely support teachers, but also need to know how DC is doing. One of their HS teachers has a 3-4 week delay in grading. It’s been like that all year.

[Anonymous]

Interim report at Thanksgiving, grade is A.
After winter break there's now a 0 from a missing assignment from before interim, and average grade for class is now a C.
Told that grades from before interims can't be changed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think you would achieve better results by lobbying the board to ensure that teachers get more planning and grading time.

They'd rather squeeze out higher salaries and stronger benefits for the teachers in their final years before retirement.

Look at the pay charts. Young teachers are getting shafted to do the same work. Often more work, since they're still preparing some of their own lesson plans and materials.

If you catch a teacher creating a lesson plan instead of using the standard materials, report her to the equity office.

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Anonymous wrote:Can teachers there go on "work to rule"?

Saskatchewan (Canada) teachers did it last year. They fulfilled their contractual obligations to a T. Nothing more. It opened eyes, and caused a LOT of complaints.

I'm not saying it needs to happen, I'm just curious.

I’m a teacher. I’ve certainly thought about it, but I don’t see it working. “Work to rule” means I wouldn’t grade a single paper. I wouldn’t respond to emails. I wouldn’t prep any altered lessons for students with accommodations. There would be no letters of recommendation… not for colleges, scholarships, etc. I wouldn’t alter my lessons, tailoring them to students’ needs.

All of that work is done at home because I receive no time during the work day for any of it. So “Work to Rule” means some of the most important parts of my job wouldn’t get done.

Frankly, most teachers are caring people. We don’t want to hurt the students, so we can’t stop work. And I think management knows that and exploits it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think you would achieve better results by lobbying the board to ensure that teachers get more planning and grading time.

They'd rather squeeze out higher salaries and stronger benefits for the teachers in their final years before retirement.

Look at the pay charts. Young teachers are getting shafted to do the same work. Often more work, since they're still preparing some of their own lesson plans and materials.

If you catch a teacher creating a lesson plan instead of using the standard materials, report her to the equity office.

That depends on the class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think you would achieve better results by lobbying the board to ensure that teachers get more planning and grading time.

They'd rather squeeze out higher salaries and stronger benefits for the teachers in their final years before retirement.

Look at the pay charts. Young teachers are getting shafted to do the same work. Often more work, since they're still preparing some of their own lesson plans and materials.

If you catch a teacher creating a lesson plan instead of using the standard materials, report her to the equity office.

LMAO

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Anonymous wrote:Not really sure what you mean with "maintaining their paperwork, to make them file lessons/assignment/grades properly". Lessons are available for the student in class. Students are to be in class and complete the learning in class. Long are the days of asynchronous lessons. Assignments are given out in class. Students have access to work in the classroom. I post them in myMCPS Classroom, if that is where I want them to complete it. But often times it is done on paper.

As a teacher, paperwork is the last thing on my list of things to do. It is the first thing that I cut. This is one of the many reasons why teachers are overworked. We have to plan the lesson. Make copies of the handouts/worksheets/assignments. That alone can take time because the copy machines are always broken or there is a line. Then we have to teach the lesson. Students are expected to complete the work in class and then possibly for homework. Students then turn in the assignment. I grade it. And this is all for one lesson/class. I have three preps, so this is tripled. 5 days a week, 25 lessons per week, if I am lucky I get 5 45 minute planning periods a week to do all of this.

Maybe stop blaming teachers and fight for appropriate time for teachers to complete these tasks that you want us to do.

There should be a student teacher for every higher level course!!

Student teachers are a lot of work to supervise as teachers are teaching these interns. So, that is not lifting burden off teachers if that is what you are trying to suggest would happen.