Bucknell, The Street, and Pipelines not named Keystone

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Anonymous wrote:We visited Bucknell. It was fine. One got the sense it was intellectually maybe a cut below the other lacs we visited. The business school was impressive and it seems like a good route for a young man or woman who knows they want to chase the bag but can’t get into a top25 type LAC. Perhaps a very good option.

My DC describes the kids who got into Bucknell as not terribly smart… like not taking the same classes as the kids who are targeting the most selective schools… maybe a few easy APs, you get the picture

The Bucknell Keystone Pipeline Champion is a bit deranged but it’s a good call for a kid who is not quite in that top rung academically but wants the brass ring too and doesn’t think the super nerds are the only ones who deserve a shot at it. The business program, like all business programs, provide a springboard into the industry versus a standard liberal arts education.

This feels very fair
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Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly just a great school for low income students with no network. Everyone else is worse off with Bucknell on their resume. It’s much worse than the two schools you noted, which are very respected in various corners of Wall Street.


You can hate Bucknell or love Bucknell but it is not known for being a school for low income students. It’s filled with lots of UMC kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Rather than comparing Bucknell to intellectual lacs, how does it compare to finance-minded lacs like Claremont McKenna or Washington&Lee?


I don’t agree that CMC and W&L are not “intellectual LACs”. Nor do I agree they are “finance minded” - their graduates do lots of other things besides finance and I bet most of them do not do finance.


30-40% of CMCs graduating classes major in Economics. They are one of the few LACs with a masters in finance. Their most notable alumni are entirely in finance. Even their new integrated science program is about graduating science majors with computational skills to immediately skirt grad school and run towards industry to make money in biotech and data science.


Just because they majored in econ does not mean they went into finance. In fact most of them don't. In the classes of 2013-22, most CMC grads (21%) went into tech and entrepreneurship, 16% went into accounting/finance, 11.5% into government/law (very common for CMC grads to get law degrees), 13% into nonprofits, 9% into consulting, etc.

But the main point is that regarding CMC as somehow "not intellectual" like it's a vocational training school is just wrong.

CMC is on the west coast. “Tech and entrepreneurship” is fintech and financial pipelines in Google and Apple, not Software engineering students.


You have no idea what they're doing for Apple and Microsoft. And you're wrong, CMC grads have absolutely gotten hired to do software engineering, not least because they can take courses at Mudd.

I have massive doubts that this is true. Mudd caps their non-Mudd CS majors to a really small amount. It really doesn’t make a lot of sense for a mostly Econ and government school to be graduating software engineers- it would show.
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Anonymous wrote:I heard the "Pipeline poster" quit posting. Maybe it's not necessary to pile on...

I hope not! She/ he was a true DCUM legend. Always spirited and always made me smile
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Anonymous wrote:It’s mostly just a great school for low income students with no network. Everyone else is worse off with Bucknell on their resume. It’s much worse than the two schools you noted, which are very respected in various corners of Wall Street.


You can hate Bucknell or love Bucknell but it is not known for being a school for low income students. It’s filled with lots of UMC kids.


Exactly. My Gen X cousin who went there (from Michigan) was the daughter of a Wharton MBA grad who was an auto industry VP (big VP, top of the corp). She's actually had a pretty good business career.

My husband was a FG Pell Grant recipient. He flew for an on-campus visit and liked it. Couldn't afford it. FG wasn't cool then.


You two completely misunderstood the PP. They were saying the students who might get a boost attending a school like Bucknell are low income. Like most privates the majority of Bucknell students are not low income, not at all. The wealthy cousin would have a similar launch from any number of schools, but also would have aimed higher if possible.
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Anonymous wrote:i’ve told this story before on dcum

my kid was a recruited D3 athlete, all the top names Nescac etc. Didn’t go ED which is another story

but W&L had an accepted undecided athlete event at alumni house in wealthy fairfield county enclave. Maybe 10 kids, with a room of 20-25 W&L wall street alumni, all levels analysts up to mds/partners.

felt like central casting for the movie the firm - the host shut the oversized front doors, turned to the recruits and said something along the lines of “we take care of our own, once ur one of us, ur always one of us”

my kid chose a nescac but we still laugh about how impressive / borderline creepy that was - but the message was clear, you would have a direct pipeline to the street


This perfectly describes my son's Lehigh sendoff as well. (Also in Fairfield Co.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I know someone who chose Bucknell over Boston College. Odd.


Why is that surprising? While BC might be slightly more selective and better known, it doesn’t guarantee stronger outcomes on The Street than Bucknell. Sure, many BC grads end up there, like with most highly ranked schools in the Acela corridor, but there’s no rabid network or established pipeline to make the process easier. You’re mostly on your own, hoping the BC brand opens doors.

At Bucknell, on the other hand, alumni take care of each other, especially on The Street. Just like a PP described about W&L, once you’re a Bucknellian, you’re one for life, and there’s always someone in a lofty position eager to push your resume to the top of the stack. Joining a fraternity amplifies this effect, especially if you get a bid to a top-tier house.

The bonds simply aren't that strong at BC, where most of the camaraderie revolves around a football team that hasn’t been relevant since the Flutie years. In short, the kid made the right choice.
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a content Bucknell student who is not remotely interested in finance, I hate how Bucknell is discussed on this website. It is a great school for the right kid. No one ever said it was Harvard, and the kids are happy and learning. Why the need to do so much bashing?


Societies turn on individuals for overpromoting their own beliefs beyond the point that the collective considers to be acceptable.

This will fade in some months.

I am now wondering if other people were trolling by dropping in the "Pipeline to the Street" comments. Just recently.

Wall Street and Finance aspirants do tend to have that sharp-elbowed behavior. I saw it in my MBA program.

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Anonymous wrote:Reviewing the class of 2022 placement, about 4.5% of the 881 graduates ended up at a bank. Not bad. About 6% at Big 4 accounting firms.

Overall, placement across all industries is above average. Most graduates end up working in the state of New York. Placement is regional, not national, but doubtful that many students look beyond the Middle Atlantic states for employment. An alternative for those seeking a different part of the country might be SMU (Dallas, Texas) or Santa Clara University in the Silicon Valley area of California.

Interesting school for those scoring in the mid-to-high 1300s on the SAT.

I have been aware of Bucknell University since the early 1970s. At that time, many of the students came from well off families who owned their own business. The elder son of the well respected head of school at my private school attended and graduated Bucknell University. He was a solid student & a college athlete. Attractive, well-rounded, very social students.



OK, there are a lot of odd posts on this topic, but this one is pretty nuts. This poster is citing someone who went to Bucknell literally 50 years ago!!!
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Anonymous wrote:As a parent of a content Bucknell student who is not remotely interested in finance, I hate how Bucknell is discussed on this website. It is a great school for the right kid. No one ever said it was Harvard, and the kids are happy and learning. Why the need to do so much bashing?


I've noticed there is ignorance and a LOT of misinformation about schools on DCUM. Strong opinions on things that can't be proven. I've known kids to reject Georgetown for Bucknell. Its a good school. And from what I hear on DCUM repeatedly is that it has a: pipeline to the Street. That's all I hear: The Street about this school. Like the rest of the kids are wasting time if they are not going after: The Street.

Another school to contrast the misinformation is Vassar - it gets dragged through the mud. Its ranked #12 for LAC and has like a 18% acceptance rate but you'll find comments like "safety school". Who are these people chiming in? and why?

DCUM has some good gems of information but a lot of nonsense from very ignorant people are also posted here.
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Reading through thisv thread, it's clear that very few DCUM readers understand The Street and what qualities are valued most on The Street. I assume this naivete comes from being in a city with no real finance sector.
You can forget the movies you've seen about quant jocks ruling finance, or the memory of math wiz classmates from 20 years ago getting hired on The Street for big money while you got your Kennedy School degree and didn't earn anything other than debt and a special service certificate from some random federal agency.
But here's The Street today. No one needs quant jocks because we've got AI and an insane amount of computing power to automate everything. But what's needed is what was valued most by The Street back in the 50s and 60s: relationship building. It's that person to person contact to get clients and make deals for them.
And that's where Bucknell excels. You can laugh at getting drunk at fraternity parties six nights a week, but that kind of ability to socialize at such an intense level is the best prep for leadership in today's top forms on The Street. Bucknell is the place to go for this kind of training, and the older brothers will always keep the pipeline flowing for the younger brothers. So if your child likes money (and I do know that some kids don't like money or at least are satisfied with getting a GS 14 paycheck someday), then give Bucknell a good look. He'll be riding through that pipeline to The Street.
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Anonymous wrote:Reviewing the class of 2022 placement, about 4.5% of the 881 graduates ended up at a bank. Not bad. About 6% at Big 4 accounting firms.

Overall, placement across all industries is above average. Most graduates end up working in the state of New York. Placement is regional, not national, but doubtful that many students look beyond the Middle Atlantic states for employment. An alternative for those seeking a different part of the country might be SMU (Dallas, Texas) or Santa Clara University in the Silicon Valley area of California.

Interesting school for those scoring in the mid-to-high 1300s on the SAT.

I have been aware of Bucknell University since the early 1970s. At that time, many of the students came from well off families who owned their own business. The elder son of the well respected head of school at my private school attended and graduated Bucknell University. He was a solid student & a college athlete. Attractive, well-rounded, very social students.



OK, there are a lot of odd posts on this topic, but this one is pretty nuts. This poster is citing someone who went to Bucknell literally 50 years ago!!!

The poster is relaying her background knowledge about the school. I don't see this as a problem
Anonymous
Bucknell is a joke and this pipeline crap is just nonsense
Look at the rankings and the results and draw your own conclusions
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Anonymous wrote:Bucknell is a joke and this pipeline crap is just nonsense
Look at the rankings and the results and draw your own conclusions


I think people make too much of undergrad background and success on Wall Street. You’ve got everything from Ivy leaguers to bucknellians to state u. A smart talented kid will make his or her way regardless. Many people on wall st are foreigners and no one has any idea really about their educational background. I say all this as an Ivy leaguer who has worked for a bucknellian, a low end state u guy, ivy leaguers and foreigners whose education escapes me. It’s definitely helpful to come out of a strong program but not determinative.
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Anonymous wrote:Bucknell is a joke and this pipeline crap is just nonsense
Look at the rankings and the results and draw your own conclusions


Again, if you want your kid to make serious money, send him to Bucknell. I know making serious money isn't much of a priority for DC parents who think a law firm partnership is as good as it gets. But for kids who want big money, and get it through learning to socialize and network for four years (and have a blast doing it), then Bucknell is the place to be!
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