S/o: Do you support murdering CEOs ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Change the question.

Why do you support CEOs killing people every day with their business decisions? Just because it is legal?

How much suffering did wall street bankers impose in the country after 2008 that require us all to collectively bail them out? How much suffering do healthcare exec inflict in thousands of people per day? When the high and nightly inflict suffering they are never punished for their crimes. They are rewarded for it with taxpayer bailouts, higher stock prices, and bigger paychecks.

You're asking the wrong question. Why do you support CEO malfeasance?

Sure ask thst question

Fight for real change which will not happen just by killing a CEO. Only stupid people think that way.

For large organizations, these guys are just as interchangeable. I'm sure there is an acting CEO who took over that guys work.

But this is un-American. Everyone is entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers

Maybe that doesn't matter anymore in this new America

So how do you suppose we change things then? American citizens cannot change the govt because citizens United has given unlimited buying and lobbying power to corporations and special interest groups to corrupt our government. The institutions that are supposed to regulate these businesses have also been captured.

So please tell us all how we are supposed to change this corporate oppression when we can't democratically elect officials to change laws since they're all bought by corporations or are blocked from doing so because of citizens United.

You can’t murder people either to get your way. Back to the drawing board

Throughout history people have certainly used violence to overthrow the wealthy ruling class keeping them impoverished. Our country was build on escaping an oppressive monarchy. I don’t know why we think there isn’t a tipping point at which people will begin to return to violence. As a PP mentioned Citizens United was a gateway decision that gave limitless power to our corporate overlords and all the legal methods of trying to pass reform for the working and middle class are essentially nullified.

It’s unrealistic to think there isn’t a rock bottom in which wealth inequality gets so bad that enough people revolt. I hope we don’t get to that point, and if it does it may not be within our lifetimes. But the growing wealth gap cannot keep accelerating at the same pace without a societal upheaval.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those of you who think this kind of behavior (murdering someone in cold blood) is acceptable and are actually "celebrating" it, are the epitome of what is wrong with society. All life is sacred, even this deranged individual who took the life of another. I hope he spends the rest of his life in prison.

Yes, take note health insurance companies! It is not acceptable to hurt people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change the question.

Why do you support CEOs killing people every day with their business decisions? Just because it is legal?

How much suffering did wall street bankers impose in the country after 2008 that require us all to collectively bail them out? How much suffering do healthcare exec inflict in thousands of people per day? When the high and nightly inflict suffering they are never punished for their crimes. They are rewarded for it with taxpayer bailouts, higher stock prices, and bigger paychecks.

You're asking the wrong question. Why do you support CEO malfeasance?

Sure ask thst question

Fight for real change which will not happen just by killing a CEO. Only stupid people think that way.

For large organizations, these guys are just as interchangeable. I'm sure there is an acting CEO who took over that guys work.

But this is un-American. Everyone is entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers

Maybe that doesn't matter anymore in this new America

So how do you suppose we change things then? American citizens cannot change the govt because citizens United has given unlimited buying and lobbying power to corporations and special interest groups to corrupt our government. The institutions that are supposed to regulate these businesses have also been captured.

So please tell us all how we are supposed to change this corporate oppression when we can't democratically elect officials to change laws since they're all bought by corporations or are blocked from doing so because of citizens United.

I see

So you think this is the way? It isn't. They guys can afford top security if they think they need it. Nothing changes because of this. Meanwhile you have untrained people running around with guns. Would you be fine if he missed and hit the guy behind him or killed the man's kids? You debase yourself while still changing nothing

Are you kidding me? We already have that. And no one will do anything about that either.

Right?! That’s cute that the PP thinks innocent people (including children) aren’t already getting shot by untrained gunmen. What happened to this CEO is literally a Tuesday afternoon for many, it just happened to get headlines because he is rich (plus add in an attractive mysterious shooter with a manifesto).

But guns are now a leading cause of death for kids in our country. I would love to see that change before we expend any great efforts to protect the CEOs of this nation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change the question.

Why do you support CEOs killing people every day with their business decisions? Just because it is legal?

How much suffering did wall street bankers impose in the country after 2008 that require us all to collectively bail them out? How much suffering do healthcare exec inflict in thousands of people per day? When the high and nightly inflict suffering they are never punished for their crimes. They are rewarded for it with taxpayer bailouts, higher stock prices, and bigger paychecks.

You're asking the wrong question. Why do you support CEO malfeasance?

Sure ask thst question

Fight for real change which will not happen just by killing a CEO. Only stupid people think that way.

For large organizations, these guys are just as interchangeable. I'm sure there is an acting CEO who took over that guys work.

But this is un-American. Everyone is entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers

Maybe that doesn't matter anymore in this new America

So how do you suppose we change things then? American citizens cannot change the govt because citizens United has given unlimited buying and lobbying power to corporations and special interest groups to corrupt our government. The institutions that are supposed to regulate these businesses have also been captured.

So please tell us all how we are supposed to change this corporate oppression when we can't democratically elect officials to change laws since they're all bought by corporations or are blocked from doing so because of citizens United.

You can’t murder people either to get your way. Back to the drawing board

And yet murdering entire classrooms of 7 year olds also doesn't change anything because of corporate and special interest lobbying.

Just bend over and take it, whether it is from uncontrollable gun violence to healthcare CEOs milling people en masse.

Come up with a new idea since all the others aren’t working. It’s not up to others to solve your problems. Be the change.

? It actually IS up to the people we elect to solve our problems. Otherwise, why are we electing them? And there ARE ideas right now in Congress. There is just no political will to make it happen.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/3421

The process to elect people to solve our problems has literally been taken over by corporations who were deemed to be “people” under the first amendment.

You hit the nail on the head there is no political will to make changes because the only political options we are given are people accepting significant donations from the billionaire class. Wake up and realize these people have purchased our political freedoms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A criminal who associated with sketchy people, engaged in criminal acts, and was responsible for harm to other people was gunned down in the streets of New York.

But it was a rich white man, so everyone mourns. Had he been a poor black or brown man, everyone would have shrugged their shoulders and gone “well what do you expect?”

The people upset over this murder weren’t the same ones upset over George Floyd. With Floyd, they said “he was a bad guy with a record, who cares”.

If somebody truly hates all murder and is equally vocal about murder of ALL people - poor people, women (especially women of color), BIPOC, etc - then I have no problem with them also being vocal about this murder.

But I doubt many people are. I just don’t see the Venn diagram of “people upset over rich CEO deaths” and “people upset over black men killed by police” having much overlap.

As my BIPOC H said: “I just can’t get worked up over rich white men killing each other”.

Injecting race into every single thread is so boring, and so last year. People have moved on, so should you. And when you do, look around and realize that nobody is mourning this rich white guy. That’s the point of the thread. Get it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of course not. The killer will rightfully spend the rest of his life in prison.

We do not solve problems with guns. The gun culture in this country is insane.

You also blame cars for drunk drivers, right?

No but we have licensing requirements and DUI checkpoints and traffic courts and mandatory insurance coverage, etc. for cars. That would be a start with guns.

[Anonymous]

No, but I support putting CEOs on trial for murder if they knowingly and wrongfully deny care that leads to death. I also support putting CEOs on trial for assault if they do the same and it leads to harm or insurmountable pain, especially in children.

The murderer was wrong. We should do what is right.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A criminal who associated with sketchy people, engaged in criminal acts, and was responsible for harm to other people was gunned down in the streets of New York.

But it was a rich white man, so everyone mourns. Had he been a poor black or brown man, everyone would have shrugged their shoulders and gone “well what do you expect?”

The people upset over this murder weren’t the same ones upset over George Floyd. With Floyd, they said “he was a bad guy with a record, who cares”.

If somebody truly hates all murder and is equally vocal about murder of ALL people - poor people, women (especially women of color), BIPOC, etc - then I have no problem with them also being vocal about this murder.

But I doubt many people are. I just don’t see the Venn diagram of “people upset over rich CEO deaths” and “people upset over black men killed by police” having much overlap.

As my BIPOC H said: “I just can’t get worked up over rich white men killing each other”.

Injecting race into every single thread is so boring, and so last year. People have moved on, so should you. And when you do, look around and realize that nobody is mourning this rich white guy. That’s the point of the thread. Get it?

Eh. Take race out of it, then. A white guy in a trailer park in West Virginia who is a known criminal and screwed many people over pisses off the wrong person and gets shot.

Nobody would care. They’d say he had it coming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, but I support putting CEOs on trial for murder if they knowingly and wrongfully deny care that leads to death. I also support putting CEOs on trial for assault if they do the same and it leads to harm or insurmountable pain, especially in children.

The murderer was wrong. We should do what is right.

I like this idea. And in the case of using AI and third party quotas, the charge should be mass murder. This is a terroristic act on the American people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would never do something like that, but I certainly don't feel bad about their deaths.

It isn't as of ordinary Americans have asked (or work hard) for a better life, for a very long time. People are tired of struggling and getting nowhere, while the rich keep getting richer.

And no, many CEO's or people in positions of power didn't get there because they "worked hard" - they got there because of privilege, connections, and putting massive greed above ethics. It's a kind of selfishness that many are personally offended by, because it affects them and their daily lives.

So I wouldn't say I support it. But I get it.

+1 I don't condone murder, but other than feeling bad for his children, I don't really feel bad about his death either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change the question.

Why do you support CEOs killing people every day with their business decisions? Just because it is legal?

How much suffering did wall street bankers impose in the country after 2008 that require us all to collectively bail them out? How much suffering do healthcare exec inflict in thousands of people per day? When the high and nightly inflict suffering they are never punished for their crimes. They are rewarded for it with taxpayer bailouts, higher stock prices, and bigger paychecks.

You're asking the wrong question. Why do you support CEO malfeasance?

Sure ask thst question

Fight for real change which will not happen just by killing a CEO. Only stupid people think that way.

For large organizations, these guys are just as interchangeable. I'm sure there is an acting CEO who took over that guys work.

But this is un-American. Everyone is entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers

Maybe that doesn't matter anymore in this new America

So how do you suppose we change things then? American citizens cannot change the govt because citizens United has given unlimited buying and lobbying power to corporations and special interest groups to corrupt our government. The institutions that are supposed to regulate these businesses have also been captured.

So please tell us all how we are supposed to change this corporate oppression when we can't democratically elect officials to change laws since they're all bought by corporations or are blocked from doing so because of citizens United.

You can’t murder people either to get your way. Back to the drawing board

Throughout history people have certainly used violence to overthrow the wealthy ruling class keeping them impoverished. Our country was build on escaping an oppressive monarchy. I don’t know why we think there isn’t a tipping point at which people will begin to return to violence. As a PP mentioned Citizens United was a gateway decision that gave limitless power to our corporate overlords and all the legal methods of trying to pass reform for the working and middle class are essentially nullified.

It’s unrealistic to think there isn’t a rock bottom in which wealth inequality gets so bad that enough people revolt. I hope we don’t get to that point, and if it does it may not be within our lifetimes. But the growing wealth gap cannot keep accelerating at the same pace without a societal upheaval.

But now that people see it’s a poor little rich boy who went off the rails this “movement” loses its momentum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would never do something like that, but I certainly don't feel bad about their deaths.

It isn't as of ordinary Americans have asked (or work hard) for a better life, for a very long time. People are tired of struggling and getting nowhere, while the rich keep getting richer.

And no, many CEO's or people in positions of power didn't get there because they "worked hard" - they got there because of privilege, connections, and putting massive greed above ethics. It's a kind of selfishness that many are personally offended by, because it affects them and their daily lives.

So I wouldn't say I support it. But I get it.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would never do something like that, but I certainly don't feel bad about their deaths.

It isn't as of ordinary Americans have asked (or work hard) for a better life, for a very long time. People are tired of struggling and getting nowhere, while the rich keep getting richer.

And no, many CEO's or people in positions of power didn't get there because they "worked hard" - they got there because of privilege, connections, and putting massive greed above ethics. It's a kind of selfishness that many are personally offended by, because it affects them and their daily lives.

So I wouldn't say I support it. But I get it.

This is about where I'm at. Not supporting or celebrating, but I get it and would say I'm pretty apathetic about it? We are a country who doesn't care when a bunch of kindergarteners are slaughtered, we've accepted that as a culturally normal and acceptable thing, so with that barometer in mind I don't get misty eyed when some shithead who contributed to so much illness and death is taken out. Would I encourage it? No. Do it myself? Obviously not. But could I get over it if this murderer had taken off to Thailand and we never found him? Ehhh yes.

This. We expect teachers to be human shields as part of their job description. At least CEOs can afford bodyguards.

[Anonymous]

No. Murder is never okay.

The guy was hanging out in Hawaii for 6 months and seemed to find plenty of time to go to a gym.

It appears the shooter had mental illness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change the question.

Why do you support CEOs killing people every day with their business decisions? Just because it is legal?

How much suffering did wall street bankers impose in the country after 2008 that require us all to collectively bail them out? How much suffering do healthcare exec inflict in thousands of people per day? When the high and nightly inflict suffering they are never punished for their crimes. They are rewarded for it with taxpayer bailouts, higher stock prices, and bigger paychecks.

You're asking the wrong question. Why do you support CEO malfeasance?

Sure ask thst question

Fight for real change which will not happen just by killing a CEO. Only stupid people think that way.

For large organizations, these guys are just as interchangeable. I'm sure there is an acting CEO who took over that guys work.

But this is un-American. Everyone is entitled to a trial by a jury of their peers

Maybe that doesn't matter anymore in this new America

So how do you suppose we change things then? American citizens cannot change the govt because citizens United has given unlimited buying and lobbying power to corporations and special interest groups to corrupt our government. The institutions that are supposed to regulate these businesses have also been captured.

So please tell us all how we are supposed to change this corporate oppression when we can't democratically elect officials to change laws since they're all bought by corporations or are blocked from doing so because of citizens United.

You can’t murder people either to get your way. Back to the drawing board

And yet murdering entire classrooms of 7 year olds also doesn't change anything because of corporate and special interest lobbying.

Just bend over and take it, whether it is from uncontrollable gun violence to healthcare CEOs milling people en masse.

Come up with a new idea since all the others aren’t working. It’s not up to others to solve your problems. Be the change.

Why don't you ask the founders of the country how they enacted change to escape from oppressive taxation under a government they had no say in?

Oh yeah, that's right, they started an entire war over it and killed British oppressors.

You sound like a lobbyist who earns a living undermining our democracy so that your corporate overlords can buy their 5th yacht.