S/o: Do you support murdering CEOs ?

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Anonymous wrote:I'll add that I still do not understand a rich 26 yo who attended prep school and whose parents profited from assisted living and a country club thinks he's changing the world by killing another rich guy (who attended public schools and didn't even have a fancy upbringing).

The law would hopefully have done its job with the CEO for his insider trading and any other laws he broke.

1. I do not support gunning somebody down. However, I have thought a lot about this crazy story, and I think I get why this privileged boy decided it had to be him. Consider: if a black person had done the shooting, scrutiny of the situation would no be the same, and the group to whom Luigi was trying to make a point would be considerably less shaken than if they saw someone "like them" commit the murder. The same with a poor shooter, or a middle class shooter, etc. I'm not saying what he did was the right way to make his point, but if someone WERE going to choose this path, then it really has to be a privileged white male with a lot to lose who must take this guy out.

That's what I think he was thinking.

I do think it is true that our reactions would be considerably less sympathetic and inclined to get into his head and understand his situation if he had been poor, non-white, etc.

And I think he wanted his action to prompt conversation and scrutiny of the system; I don't think he believed that this one person's death alone would fix anything.

Again, I'm not saying I support gunning somebody down in American streets. But this is what I think he intended when he decided to take this path.

2. Playing devil's advocate, what if this shooting sparks a series of talks and scrutiny that results in real change to the health insurance industry? YES, this is highly UNLIKELY, but just for fun, if this happened...would you look back and conclude that the killing of this one (criminal, morally bankrupt) individual was, in fact, "worth it"? Because I don't know what my answer would be to this.

He had a mental problem, spiraled, picked a grievance, sold himself on the “only” way FW, and wanted to feel important and garner attention, to himself as well.

It’s like the 2024 joker movie, net of the child abuse. Hits home too much.

The 2024 movie Joker: Folie a Deux hits hard on this Mangione case.
Wonder if Luigi managed to watch any movies since back from his Asia travels….

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I can understand it.

I don't have the courage or conviction to do it, but I get it.

My neighbor and her doctors have been fighting with her insurance for her to get a total hysterectomy all of 2024. She suffers from menorrhagia to the point where she's had 4 blood transfusions this year alone. The insurance keeps denying it as not medically necessary. Her doctor requested a peer review and that finally got the insurance to cover it. She went in for the procedure and they couldn't proceed because she had a fever. She never developed any other symptoms but once it was rescheduled after a course of antibiotics, her insurance denied it. The surgeon's office called 2 days before the procedure that they had reversed the peer review appeal approval. Why? Because it was December 2024. She'd already hit her deductible for 2024, and they were trying to push it to 2025 where she'd have to pay $9500. That's NOT what they said but come the BLEEP on! Even her surgeon's office said this, and he had 2 of his people on the phone nonstop with the insurance company fighting. She finally got her surgery with 2 days left in 2024.

If that was your loved one, yeah, I can get it. She's barely had a life for the past 2 years while suffering from the heavy bleeding. I've seen her look so pale that if I didn't know her, I'd have thought holy crap, that's a ghost! But not just her life was on hold, so was the lives of her husband and kids.

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I can’t even believe this is a serious question.

This is crazy nuts

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t even believe this is a serious question.

This is crazy nuts

+1

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No, only psychos think justifying cold blooded murder is acceptable.

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I do not. However, Mangione gives off Michael Scofield energy: troubled, sensitive, and protective. Very intelligent. Handsome. Deep, kind eyes that pierce your soul. Eventually will travel the wrong path for his convictions of right and wrong (in LM’s case, misguided).

He is the type of inmate I could see myself falling for if I were working in a prison. And losing my medical license over, ugh. I am weak that way: an innate need to help people, even when it’s ill-advised. I am glad I practice in a hospital and not at MDC.

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Who’s scofield? What trial was that and where?

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Luigi’s face and eyes look totally different post arrest than in any of this social media photos.

Especially his banking around and yelling in PA orange suit before his attorneys told him to only shut up and nod.

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Societies and psychologists also say it is immoral to gun down people. It’s a universal value and understanding: murder is wrong.

If you lack values and now rationalize gunning down people on their way to work you’re a sociopath. There are moral ways to make the same point. Many of them.

If you think one guy in the system who worked his way up to head a line of business is the poster child for your cause, take him to court.

And what if the courts are corrupt which is obviously the case.

+1. There is no actual justice for the rich and powerful in this country, only the illusion of it. I happen to know some members of the Sackler family. Yes, they were fined hundreds of millions of dollars. Yet not one of them was put the behind bars, and they still have hundreds of millions left to continue enjoying their lavish lifestyle while tens of thousands of lives were lost and many more destroyed by the opioids they pushed. Pray tell, where is the “moral way” of punishment in this case??

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Anonymous wrote:Who’s scofield? What trial was that and where?

He is the main character in the TV show Prison Break. The character of Scofield is great, and the actor Wentworth Miller who plays him is gorgeous.

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Anonymous wrote:I know somebody who became addicted to painkillers because his insurance would no pay for the surgery his doctor said would fix the pain, but the insurance WOULD pay for painkillers to take for years to mask the pain they would not pay to fix. The addiction ruined him, just changed his personality beyond belief.

Someone with medical training pointed out to me that the x-ray photo Luigi had posted showing his back surgery results also showed that he was...very constipated. And this is a primary symptom of opiates. If the surgery didn't alleviate his symptoms (and this type of surgery sometimes does not "work"), then that means he was and may still be relying on painkillers.

It would be interesting if it turns out that Luigi's insurance wouldn't pay for additional treatments, but did pay for him to be on painkillers. Having known someone "addicted to pills", I know this does change one's personality, impulse control, and perception of the world.

Where is this xray?!?!

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Anonymous wrote:Who’s scofield? What trial was that and where?

He is the main character in the TV show Prison Break. The character of Scofield is great, and the actor Wentworth Miller who plays him is gorgeous.

So a movie star actor character, got it.

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Anonymous wrote:
Societies and psychologists also say it is immoral to gun down people. It’s a universal value and understanding: murder is wrong.

If you lack values and now rationalize gunning down people on their way to work you’re a sociopath. There are moral ways to make the same point. Many of them.

If you think one guy in the system who worked his way up to head a line of business is the poster child for your cause, take him to court.

And what if the courts are corrupt which is obviously the case.

+1. There is no actual justice for the rich and powerful in this country, only the illusion of it. I happen to know some members of the Sackler family. Yes, they were fined hundreds of millions of dollars. Yet not one of them was put the behind bars, and they still have hundreds of millions left to continue enjoying their lavish lifestyle while tens of thousands of lives were lost and many more destroyed by the opioids they pushed. Pray tell, where is the “moral way” of punishment in this case??

Sackler family?

Is this the Asian art museum Smithsonian downtown?

Sounds like they’re an R&D, clinical trial, Pharma company family? And you want them- of all parts of the opiom value chain- dead or imprisoned? Because some people got addicted to drugs?

What about fast food? Processed food? TikTok and screens and scrolling? Online gambling? Liquor owners?

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Anonymous wrote:I know somebody who became addicted to painkillers because his insurance would no pay for the surgery his doctor said would fix the pain, but the insurance WOULD pay for painkillers to take for years to mask the pain they would not pay to fix. The addiction ruined him, just changed his personality beyond belief.

Someone with medical training pointed out to me that the x-ray photo Luigi had posted showing his back surgery results also showed that he was...very constipated. And this is a primary symptom of opiates. If the surgery didn't alleviate his symptoms (and this type of surgery sometimes does not "work"), then that means he was and may still be relying on painkillers.

It would be interesting if it turns out that Luigi's insurance wouldn't pay for additional treatments, but did pay for him to be on painkillers. Having known someone "addicted to pills", I know this does change one's personality, impulse control, and perception of the world.

Where is this xray?!?!

Prob his X photo background. Though not clear if it’s his xray or an internet lift.

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Anonymous wrote:Luigi’s face and eyes look totally different post-arrest than in any of his social media photos.

Especially his bashing around and yelling in PA orange suit before his attorneys told him to only shut up and nod.