Who is more responsible for this Democrat train wreck

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I blame Jill Biden.

She knew Joe was incapable of four more years. She should have intervened well in advance to allow him to bow out gracefully and retain his dignity.

Then the contenders could battle it out. Harris would have been rejected IMO. Not sure who would have emerged as the candidate.

So much this

This. Jill would have seen her husband's decline every day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love the arrogance on display here, lolz! “Dems didn’t win because the public is stupid!”

Hilarious!

Um, yeah they are stupid. They elected a vindictive narcissist who incited an insurrection.

DP. Thanks for confirming my view that the primary responsibility for why Democrats lost lies with rank and file Democrats like yourself.

After that it’s Biden (ego), then Harris (lied about Biden condition and then benefited with nomination without a primary and then ran a poor campaign that treated donors like chumps), the party leaders that forced Biden out too late and then rallied around Harris in the palace coup, and then the DNC.

You are proving PP’s comment.

Voters who base their vote on anonymous comments from a mommy website ARE dumb AF.

Reading that PP’s post as “voters base their votes off DCUM” is what is stupid. Not at all what she said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love the arrogance on display here, lolz! “Dems didn’t win because the public is stupid!”

Hilarious!

Um, yeah they are stupid. They elected a vindictive narcissist who incited an insurrection.

Get a new schtick.

J6, democracy!, racist! are more worn than a used condom ground into the pavement on the interstate at rush hour.

But muh insurrection and drag queen story hour?!?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love the arrogance on display here, lolz! “Dems didn’t win because the public is stupid!”

Hilarious!

Um, yeah they are stupid. They elected a vindictive narcissist who incited an insurrection.

DP. Thanks for confirming my view that the primary responsibility for why Democrats lost lies with rank and file Democrats like yourself.

After that it’s Biden (ego), then Harris (lied about Biden condition and then benefited with nomination without a primary and then ran a poor campaign that treated donors like chumps), the party leaders that forced Biden out too late and then rallied around Harris in the palace coup, and then the DNC.

You are proving PP’s comment.

Voters who base their vote on anonymous comments from a mommy website ARE dumb AF.

You are projecting your idiocy outward, because you lack basic reading comprehension, which makes a lot of sense because you post a lot of stupid takes. Here’s a tip, people like you does not mean you and only you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I blame Jill Biden.

She knew Joe was incapable of four more years. She should have intervened well in advance to allow him to bow out gracefully and retain his dignity.

Then the contenders could battle it out. Harris would have been rejected IMO. Not sure who would have emerged as the candidate.

So much this

The whole Biden family have unfortunately proven themselves to be narcissists that put themselves first over anyone else, including their country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The democrat media aswell as the democrats actions while in office

The "media" is not democratic, not by a long shot. Just compare how it covered Biden's pardoning of Hunter to Trump's pardoning of Bannon/Stone. Compare how it covered Hunter Biden's "crimes" to the total ignoring of Ivanka and Jared's raping of the federal treasury, much less the actual graft of the Trump45 Administration.

No, the country has been poisoned by Rush and Hannity and everything since.

The media is upset with Biden’s pardon because it is so damaging to the Democrat brand. NY Times, June 2024:

“For nearly four years, Republicans have delved into the darkest corners of Hunter Biden’s life, seeking to tie his troubles to his father, President Biden. But as the younger Biden stands trial in Delaware on gun charges, the case’s glaring political contradictions have rendered the G.O.P. largely mute, from former President Donald J. Trump on down.

It stands to reason: The baseless claim that the Biden Justice Department is running a political persecution of Mr. Trump is somewhat undermined by the department’s prosecution of the president’s son.“

The slanted media loved the charges because it gave ammunition to the idea that the feds were impartial and fair. The pardon does away with all that and makes the party look bad. THAT’s why the media is antagonistic towards Biden’s decision.

What is crazy that Joe Biden’s own rationale for the pardon was precisely that he thought his own Justice Departement’s prosecution of his son was political and unfair. It is literally what Trump had been saying. He validated everything that Trump had said and that the media and Democrats had used to castigate Trump as a threat to the rule of law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People get the government they deserve.

w

And its a good government coming on 1/20

Hallelujah!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame Jill Biden.

She knew Joe was incapable of four more years. She should have intervened well in advance to allow him to bow out gracefully and retain his dignity.

Then the contenders could battle it out. Harris would have been rejected IMO. Not sure who would have emerged as the candidate.

So much this

This. Jill would have seen her husband's decline every day.

His Chief of Staff would have too. She has a different role. She doesn't work with him. Lots of other people do. They could (and should) have said something.

[Anonymous]

I also say it's the American people and our own stupidity because we're going from the Dem trainwreck to an even stupider Republican trainwreck. From the frying pan into the fire.

[Anonymous]

It's the DNC's fault for not keeping up with the times and rules of the game that is the modern election cycle.

The truth no longer matters as much as a snappy headline. The game changed and the GOP figured out the rules before we did and adapted to be able to win. The Dems are lagging and need to keep up.

The average attention span for an American adult is now only 8 seconds. It's decreased 25% over the last 12 years. We now have a lower attention span than the common goldfish. WTG, humans!

Young people aren't reading long, thought out articles with citied evidence. Young people go by what the latest influencer on TikTok tells them. Did you see how many young, hot (not appearance hot) TikTok influencers were invited to the DNC? They were given incredible access for vlogging and got more facetime with Harris than many donors did at other events. Young people care about the truth, but they want the TL;DR version of that truth.

Old people, the group most susceptible to fake news and misinformation, don't read the articles either. They go off what the headline tells them and what others in the comments are saying. They then parrot those mistruths in other places.

The Dems also hasn't fully embraced the fact that the largest voting body, Gen Z, grew up with Cancel Culture. The Gen Z voters literally said for months, we are not going to vote for Harris if she doesn't come out and fully support Palestine and denounce Isreal, but no one took them seriously. Well, they should have. They are the generation of "if you don't do/say/behave how *we* want you to, we're canceling you."

There's no more "when they go low, we go high" crap. I don't want to hear that BS. That was true when the rules were different. That was true before Trump had his first term but certainly not now. Now? Anything goes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One lost election does not a train wreck make.
What makes it a train wreck is who's coming, but if this is a serious question I'll weigh in.

It might not be a popular answer among my fellow Democrats, but DEI. Not because I think it's wrong, but because it's misunderstood and easily manipulated into easy, hate-filled talking points. But also (this is where I'll duck for cover from my fellow Democrats) it went too far. It was in response to hateful rhetoric but in my opinion (just mine, not even two cents worth) it took it too far. It was a social experiment in terms of a civil rights movement that, in this point in time, wasn't accepted. Maybe later, maybe not. I wished it was toned down to allow for real conversation, but no real conversation was ever allowed to happen because people retreated to their extreme corners and stayed there because any compromise on either side felt like weakness.

So that's my take. I think we as a country aren't able to do DEI correctly. I see it as microcosms in well-intentioned businesses and departments, but utterly failed execution of DEI. So we need to regroup and accept that we aren't there. We need to take baby steps and not beat people over the heads with it.

If we don't learn from this, and how to promote diversity, equity and inclusion in a very organic, real way, THAT will be the train wreck. It's not a department. It's not a training to check off your annual training list. IMHO.

How much DEI was given to Hispanics -- maybe that's why they voted for Trump.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame Jill Biden.

She knew Joe was incapable of four more years. She should have intervened well in advance to allow him to bow out gracefully and retain his dignity.

Then the contenders could battle it out. Harris would have been rejected IMO. Not sure who would have emerged as the candidate.

So much this

This. Jill would have seen her husband's decline every day.

His Chief of Staff would have too. She has a different role. She doesn't work with him. Lots of other people do. They could (and should) have said something.

I saw Biden infrequently on TV and I could spot his decline starting in 2023 when the stiff gait started to emerge. It is a marker of Parkinson's Disease. The sundowner syndrome he experienced in the debate with Trump is a major indicator.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Carville nailed it, "Too many whiny women at the top of the Democratic party are the problem."

Carville and Vance -- the cajun and the redneck know whiney women when they experience them. That's why both of them are married to women who are tougher than they are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you blame the DNC more or Biden’s arrogance for this ongoing comedy of errors over the last 4 years?

I originally blamed the DNC for “anointing” HRC in 2016; then (basically) doing the same in 2020 for Biden. Not that the primary slate in 2020 was that great so I get why they promoted him.
And obviously he won. So DNC got it right.
Really, after the debate, Biden was defiant and pissed for a month or so then drops out. Biden basically dictating Harris as his replacement and DNC goes along with it, then DNC blows through all the money and loses.
Now this pardon thing for 11 years is kind over the top to me - for the crimes he was convicted for fine, but anything not even charged yet for over decade seems excessive.

I want to blame the DNC for not making sure Biden would not run again but now I think they could not control a sitting president who is (basically) an arrogant ass.
So frustrating that it is like a comedy of errors that somehow seems to be getting worse when there literally is no election or major events to screw up.

I now think the Biden name should be banned from the Democratic Party for life.

Interesting. I would think inciting an insurrection would get you banned from a political party.

Why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It really is a toss up. DNC lost 2 out of 3 elections to Trump. And Trump was actually a more compromised candidate in 2024 than 2016.
I do not think Americans wanted Trump more in 2024; a perfect storm of a feeble and delusional self righteous president and a party that cannot manage anything led to where we are today.

I disagree. If Americans didn't want Trump and viewed him as compromised, they had a perfect alternative: Nikki Haley in the Republican primaries. She's intelligent, qualified, sane, articulate, and in all ways a great conservative candidate. She, too, lost badly to Trump.

The narrative that any halfway decent candidate would have beaten Trump, but Harris/Biden/DNC messed up is an incorrect one. A lot of people very much wanted Trump.

Or, a lot of people didn't want a woman (Clinton, Harris & Haley) despite being vastly more qualified.

Qualified isn't a qualification for the presidency. Getting people to vote for you is the only qualification that matters.