Gate lice’ beware: American Airlines is catching early boarders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of overhead.

Glasses, medications, and one small set of clothes and toiletries can easily fit in a small bag/backpack. That can fit under your seat.

95% of the crap people bring on they don't need. It should all be required to to be checked in. I've traveled for decades. Nothing ever more than a small bag is ever really needed for carry on.

The vast majority of travelers just suck at traveling, planning, and organization. Airlines should not cater to stupidity. Get rid of overhead and speed up boarding by 80%.

I am not sure if you are congenitally stupid, or just bad at math, but "95% of the crap people bring on they don't need" is one of the more idiotic things I've ever heard. When I go in a 3 day, 2 night business trip, let's say my roller bag contains 20 items. It doesn't - there are fewer than that - but let's assume 20. Under your theory, 19 of those 20 items are unnecessary. So, what should I bring? My toiletry bag, and no clean clothes? One pair of clean underwear and no toothbrush.

DP.

Lol. Might want to improve your reading before insulting others.

Prior poster was obviously referring to need WHILE IN FLIGHT.

DP but obviously people need their stuff where they are going too, not just in flight. Unfortunately bags go missing far too often. If you want to roll the dice, go right ahead.

Bags actually very rarely go missing.

Check the data.

It’s happened to me twice. That’s enough data for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ BTW, how did you know she was 60 years old? Did you ask her?

And another FWIW, there are 60 year olds (women included) who may actually be on active duty.

DP.

If she was special needs, she would be invited to board with the special needs group.
If she was active duty, she would be invited to board with the active duty group.

Have you considered that she was neither of these things, and perhaps she either deliberately or unintentionally tried to board out of turn?

So she's just stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of overhead.

Glasses, medications, and one small set of clothes and toiletries can easily fit in a small bag/backpack. That can fit under your seat.

95% of the crap people bring on they don't need. It should all be required to to be checked in. I've traveled for decades. Nothing ever more than a small bag is ever really needed for carry on.

The vast majority of travelers just suck at traveling, planning, and organization. Airlines should not cater to stupidity. Get rid of overhead and speed up boarding by 80%.

I am not sure if you are congenitally stupid, or just bad at math, but "95% of the crap people bring on they don't need" is one of the more idiotic things I've ever heard. When I go in a 3 day, 2 night business trip, let's say my roller bag contains 20 items. It doesn't - there are fewer than that - but let's assume 20. Under your theory, 19 of those 20 items are unnecessary. So, what should I bring? My toiletry bag, and no clean clothes? One pair of clean underwear and no toothbrush.

DP.

Lol. Might want to improve your reading before insulting others.

Prior poster was obviously referring to need WHILE IN FLIGHT.

DP but obviously people need their stuff where they are going too, not just in flight. Unfortunately bags go missing far too often. If you want to roll the dice, go right ahead.

Bags actually very rarely go missing.

Check the data.

The data is overall. Given how hard it is to lose a bag on a direct flight, I'd argue that skews it for people who have to make connections

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Get rid of overhead.

Glasses, medications, and one small set of clothes and toiletries can easily fit in a small bag/backpack. That can fit under your seat.

95% of the crap people bring on they don't need. It should all be required to to be checked in. I've traveled for decades. Nothing ever more than a small bag is ever really needed for carry on.

The vast majority of travelers just suck at traveling, planning, and organization. Airlines should not cater to stupidity. Get rid of overhead and speed up boarding by 80%.

I am not sure if you are congenitally stupid, or just bad at math, but "95% of the crap people bring on they don't need" is one of the more idiotic things I've ever heard. When I go in a 3 day, 2 night business trip, let's say my roller bag contains 20 items. It doesn't - there are fewer than that - but let's assume 20. Under your theory, 19 of those 20 items are unnecessary. So, what should I bring? My toiletry bag, and no clean clothes? One pair of clean underwear and no toothbrush.

You can check a bag with that stuff in it. Are you really this dim?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The airlines want passengers to clamor for early boarding. They have designed the boarding system to trick you into boarding early because that's more profitable for them.

Used to be that boarding was from the back of the plane to the front, and many passengers didn't like being forced to board first. Some passengers would hang out at the bookstore until the last minute.

The airlines figured out that if they made boarding early a 'privilege' then people would fight over boarding first. Now they even charge us for the privilege. It's kind of hilarious.

https://www.managementtoday.co.uk/southwest-airlines-used-behavioural-science-improve-queuing-times/innovation/article/1663912

That's not what the article says, but it's an interesting read.

[Anonymous]

I am all for shaming cheaters

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But that's not what gate lice are. IMO nothing wrong with gathering around waiting to board. Sometimes there just isn't anywhere else to sit or even stand.

Also, while I haven't traveled on AA, I travel on UA and DL all the time and I don't ever see anyone jumping the line and boarding outside their group.

But I can't get to the gate when it is my turn because it is surrounded by "waiters"...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they actually boarded by rows/sections, then flight attendants could actually monitor where people are putting their carryons.

We’ve all seen people put their roller bag and backpack and jacket in the overhead bin. Nobody stops them.

Fwiw, I’ve seen gate agents tell people trying to board early that their group hasn’t been called yet and they are asked to wait.

Everyone lines up early, so they could easily put up signage by rows/sections or simply call by rows. Since you have to pay to be closer to the front, those rows should be called first.

Actually, I get ticked off when I pay to check a bag and then am told that I have to put my backpack at my feet to make room for a freeloading carry-on. That's the whole point of enduring the inconvenience of waiting for my bag.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they actually boarded by rows/sections, then flight attendants could actually monitor where people are putting their carryons.

We’ve all seen people put their roller bag and backpack and jacket in the overhead bin. Nobody stops them.

Fwiw, I’ve seen gate agents tell people trying to board early that their group hasn’t been called yet and they are asked to wait.

Everyone lines up early, so they could easily put up signage by rows/sections or simply call by rows. Since you have to pay to be closer to the front, those rows should be called first.

Actually, I get ticked off when I pay to check a bag and then am told that I have to put my backpack at my feet to make room for a freeloading carry-on. That's the whole point of enduring the inconvenience of waiting for my bag.

I hate this too but we figured out a hack for it. Bring a lightweight, thin, foldable bag, in addition to your backpack. Out your backpack in the bin where you want it and the empty or mostly empty second bag at your feet. When the flight attendant says “whose bag is this, we need the space for roller bags.” you gesture to your feet and say, sorry I already have another bag at my feet. Once boarding is done, fold up the bag and enjoy your legroom. Works like a charm!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they actually boarded by rows/sections, then flight attendants could actually monitor where people are putting their carryons.

We’ve all seen people put their roller bag and backpack and jacket in the overhead bin. Nobody stops them.

Fwiw, I’ve seen gate agents tell people trying to board early that their group hasn’t been called yet and they are asked to wait.

Everyone lines up early, so they could easily put up signage by rows/sections or simply call by rows. Since you have to pay to be closer to the front, those rows should be called first.

Actually, I get ticked off when I pay to check a bag and then am told that I have to put my backpack at my feet to make room for a freeloading carry-on. That's the whole point of enduring the inconvenience of waiting for my bag.

I hate this too but we figured out a hack for it. Bring a lightweight, thin, foldable bag, in addition to your backpack. Out your backpack in the bin where you want it and the empty or mostly empty second bag at your feet. When the flight attendant says “whose bag is this, we need the space for roller bags.” you gesture to your feet and say, sorry I already have another bag at my feet. Once boarding is done, fold up the bag and enjoy your legroom. Works like a charm!

Great idea!

Let me tell you another hack, when at a performance and someone asks "is this seat taken?" you say yes even if it isn't, and have elbow room! Works like a charm!

Also try renting a wheelchair when you go to disney to cut in front of the line! Works like a charm!

Yes, being dishonest often gets you what you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we please just start boarding from the rear on up line people up according to their seat number, with the back of the plane at the front of the line? I guarantee this will speed things up tremendously. The flight attendants can monitor to make sure people don’t put their carry-ons in any space other than what is allotted to their seat.

Actually, the quickest way to get a plane boarded is from the outside in, starting with all of the window seats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they actually boarded by rows/sections, then flight attendants could actually monitor where people are putting their carryons.

We’ve all seen people put their roller bag and backpack and jacket in the overhead bin. Nobody stops them.

Fwiw, I’ve seen gate agents tell people trying to board early that their group hasn’t been called yet and they are asked to wait.

Everyone lines up early, so they could easily put up signage by rows/sections or simply call by rows. Since you have to pay to be closer to the front, those rows should be called first.

Actually, I get ticked off when I pay to check a bag and then am told that I have to put my backpack at my feet to make room for a freeloading carry-on. That's the whole point of enduring the inconvenience of waiting for my bag.

I hate this too but we figured out a hack for it. Bring a lightweight, thin, foldable bag, in addition to your backpack. Out your backpack in the bin where you want it and the empty or mostly empty second bag at your feet. When the flight attendant says “whose bag is this, we need the space for roller bags.” you gesture to your feet and say, sorry I already have another bag at my feet. Once boarding is done, fold up the bag and enjoy your legroom. Works like a charm!

Great idea!

Let me tell you another hack, when at a performance and someone asks "is this seat taken?" you say yes even if it isn't, and have elbow room! Works like a charm!

Also try renting a wheelchair when you go to disney to cut in front of the line! Works like a charm!

Yes, being dishonest often gets you what you want.

It’s not dishonest at all. I am entitled to the same amount of overhead bin space as anyone else (one slot.) My bag is not less important because it does not have wheels and a collapsing handle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they actually boarded by rows/sections, then flight attendants could actually monitor where people are putting their carryons.

We’ve all seen people put their roller bag and backpack and jacket in the overhead bin. Nobody stops them.

Fwiw, I’ve seen gate agents tell people trying to board early that their group hasn’t been called yet and they are asked to wait.

Everyone lines up early, so they could easily put up signage by rows/sections or simply call by rows. Since you have to pay to be closer to the front, those rows should be called first.

Actually, I get ticked off when I pay to check a bag and then am told that I have to put my backpack at my feet to make room for a freeloading carry-on. That's the whole point of enduring the inconvenience of waiting for my bag.

I hate this too but we figured out a hack for it. Bring a lightweight, thin, foldable bag, in addition to your backpack. Out your backpack in the bin where you want it and the empty or mostly empty second bag at your feet. When the flight attendant says “whose bag is this, we need the space for roller bags.” you gesture to your feet and say, sorry I already have another bag at my feet. Once boarding is done, fold up the bag and enjoy your legroom. Works like a charm!

Great idea!

Let me tell you another hack, when at a performance and someone asks "is this seat taken?" you say yes even if it isn't, and have elbow room! Works like a charm!

Also try renting a wheelchair when you go to disney to cut in front of the line! Works like a charm!

Yes, being dishonest often gets you what you want.

Disney eliminated the wheelchair cheaters over a decade ago.

[Anonymous]

One reason I prefer to carry is in the event that the flight gets canceled or really delayed and I want to change my itinerary. I want to be able to be as flexible as possible in the event of unforeseen issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they actually boarded by rows/sections, then flight attendants could actually monitor where people are putting their carryons.

We’ve all seen people put their roller bag and backpack and jacket in the overhead bin. Nobody stops them.

Fwiw, I’ve seen gate agents tell people trying to board early that their group hasn’t been called yet and they are asked to wait.

Everyone lines up early, so they could easily put up signage by rows/sections or simply call by rows. Since you have to pay to be closer to the front, those rows should be called first.

Actually, I get ticked off when I pay to check a bag and then am told that I have to put my backpack at my feet to make room for a freeloading carry-on. That's the whole point of enduring the inconvenience of waiting for my bag.

I hate this too but we figured out a hack for it. Bring a lightweight, thin, foldable bag, in addition to your backpack. Out your backpack in the bin where you want it and the empty or mostly empty second bag at your feet. When the flight attendant says “whose bag is this, we need the space for roller bags.” you gesture to your feet and say, sorry I already have another bag at my feet. Once boarding is done, fold up the bag and enjoy your legroom. Works like a charm!

Great idea!

Let me tell you another hack, when at a performance and someone asks "is this seat taken?" you say yes even if it isn't, and have elbow room! Works like a charm!

Also try renting a wheelchair when you go to disney to cut in front of the line! Works like a charm!

Yes, being dishonest often gets you what you want.

It’s not dishonest at all. I am entitled to the same amount of overhead bin space as anyone else (one slot.) My bag is not less important because it does not have wheels and a collapsing handle.

You keep telling yourself that.