DC issued nearly one million tickets to drivers over six month period in DC

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Anonymous wrote:Between the speed cameras, new stop lights, new stop signs, new speed bunps, yellow light shortening, lane shrinkage, and flexposts getting around town is becoming a nightmare. It doesn't even seem safer. What the heck has DDOT been smoking?

No. A “nightmare” is being seriously injured or killed in a crash or having a relative suffer such a fate.

The roads don’t seem safer because the number of self-centered jerks on the road is at all time highs due to the absence of proper enforcement.

I hope you realize that all these measures are being done as an intentional replacement for enforcement.

I would also argue that they make things worse and create an environment that increases the amount of "self-centered jerks" on the road. But we can disagree about that.

You can argue whatever you want, but the odds of it making much sense are slim.

Traffic calming requires both infrastructure and enforcement. DC is moving forward of the infrastructure, but the enforcement is sorely lacking.

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Anonymous wrote:Between the speed cameras, new stop lights, new stop signs, new speed bunps, yellow light shortening, lane shrinkage, and flexposts getting around town is becoming a nightmare. It doesn't even seem safer. What the heck has DDOT been smoking?

No. A “nightmare” is being seriously injured or killed in a crash or having a relative suffer such a fate.

The roads don’t seem safer because the number of self-centered jerks on the road is at all time highs due to the absence of proper enforcement.

I hope you realize that all these measures are being done as an intentional replacement for enforcement.

I would also argue that they make things worse and create an environment that increases the amount of "self-centered jerks" on the road. But we can disagree about that.

You can argue whatever you want, but the odds of it making much sense are slim.

Traffic calming requires both infrastructure and enforcement. DC is moving forward of the infrastructure, but the enforcement is sorely lacking.

That's nice but you should know that it is an either/or. Congestion and Cameras in lieau of enforcement.

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According to the report, 973,431 tickets were mailed out to drivers between Oct. 1, 2023, and March 31, 2024. A majority of those tickets – 739,876 – were for speeding.
Maryland drivers made up most of the tickets, amounting to roughly 40%. Virginia drivers followed with 26% of the tickets. D.C. drivers received 21% of tickets.

During that time, $87,470,702 in Automatic Traffic Enforcement (ATE) program tickets were collected by the District. Meanwhile, 525,452 tickets remained unpaid.

Of the uncollected tickets, more than 350,000 of them belonged to Maryland and Virginia drivers.

https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/washington-dc/ddot-district-traffic-cameras/

It's really infuriating the degree to which dangerous drivers come into DC from MD and VA and make our roads less safe but then don't even pay their speeding tickets. The suburbs of DC just abuse this city while relying on it for jobs and entertainment -- it's such a screwed up relationship.

The suburbs get your carjackers and robbers, so it’s a fair trade.

Just looking for excuses to not obey the law? Criminal is a criminal whether it is carjacking or driving recklessly.

Maryland drivers gonna drive like Maryland drivers.

Racist DC folks gonna be racist. The worst drivers in the city right now consistently have VA plates.

Are you okay? It’s not racist to say that Maryland drivers are bad. They are fking terrible drivers. Baltimore Parkway and 295 are filled with just speeding, no turn signal using idiots. Sorry you’re so neurotic and hyper vigilant.

You now going to pretend that “Maryland driver” isn’t a racist dogwhistle. You should stop being so racist and get a life.

As someone white who grew up in Montgomery County and now sometimes commutes by bike on Connecticut Avenue alongside a ton of northbound Maryland cars, I pretty much always only picture "Maryland drivers" as bad white drivers.

As someone with critical thinking skills, it's abundantly clear that when white DC residents make comments about "Maryland drivers" -- and it's *always* white residents using the term -- they are talking specifically about black drivers. It's racist as hell.

You know what’s not racist as hell? Speed cameras. Unlike other traffic infraction enforcement methods can be. Study from Chicago:

https://theconversation.com/police-stop-more-black-drivers-while-speed-cameras-issue-unbiased-tickets-new-study-from-chicago-238170

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All these things can be true:
-Drivers need to drive safer and slower.
-Many DC cameras are set up to maximize revenue and have little to do with safety
-That said, cameras can and do effectively change driver habits when deployed with safety in mind.
-If safety is the primary goal, big honking signs saying MANY SPEED CAMERAS AHEAD would be deployed. (Note: They are not.)
-Many DC speed limits are set artificially low in order to make the 10-over ticket-trigger lower. For instance, a speed limit of 25 mph on Conn. Ave in DC is a joke. 30 used to be the limit. But now, 35 will get you a ticket, not 40, so that's why it is set at 25.
-MD and VA drivers should pay their tickets. I paid my MD ticket (only one so far in 10 years!). Was last year in Rockville, and it was $40. Which brings me to my final point...
-DC's $100 fine is set too high and is obviously predatory. If deterrence --not revenue-- is the goal, make it $50. People will get the message!

The $100 fine is applied to drivers who are traveling at least 11 mph above the posted limit. Per the point above, such speeds are incredibly dangerous and the high fine is warranted to deter them. The argument that lowering the fine is necessary to deliver the "message" is silly. What DC should do, however, is introduce smaller fines ($40 or $50) for drivers caught doing 5-10 mph above the limit..

Dude, 35 is not incredibly dangerous. You're high or mentally broken if you're actually believing that. $100 is an absurd fine. $50? Yeah, sure, I'll pay that and not grouse whatsoever. But you're just the exact type of person literally every driver hates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these things can be true:
-Drivers need to drive safer and slower.
-Many DC cameras are set up to maximize revenue and have little to do with safety
-That said, cameras can and do effectively change driver habits when deployed with safety in mind.
-If safety is the primary goal, big honking signs saying MANY SPEED CAMERAS AHEAD would be deployed. (Note: They are not.)
-Many DC speed limits are set artificially low in order to make the 10-over ticket-trigger lower. For instance, a speed limit of 25 mph on Conn. Ave in DC is a joke. 30 used to be the limit. But now, 35 will get you a ticket, not 40, so that's why it is set at 25.
-MD and VA drivers should pay their tickets. I paid my MD ticket (only one so far in 10 years!). Was last year in Rockville, and it was $40. Which brings me to my final point...
-DC's $100 fine is set too high and is obviously predatory. If deterrence --not revenue-- is the goal, make it $50. People will get the message!

The $100 fine is applied to drivers who are traveling at least 11 mph above the posted limit. Per the point above, such speeds are incredibly dangerous and the high fine is warranted to deter them. The argument that lowering the fine is necessary to deliver the "message" is silly. What DC should do, however, is introduce smaller fines ($40 or $50) for drivers caught doing 5-10 mph above the limit..

Dude, 35 is not incredibly dangerous. You're high or mentally broken if you're actually believing that. $100 is an absurd fine. $50? Yeah, sure, I'll pay that and not grouse whatsoever. But you're just the exact type of person literally every driver hates.

Feel free to put yourself in front of a vehicle going 35mph.

Failing that, at least have the decency to look up the research on fatality rates for people hit by vehicles doing such speeds.

You sound like exactly the kind of person that is prone to literally maiming and killing other road users. And exactly the reason why $100 fines are justified.

Please stay the hell away from DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All these things can be true:
-Drivers need to drive safer and slower.
-Many DC cameras are set up to maximize revenue and have little to do with safety
-That said, cameras can and do effectively change driver habits when deployed with safety in mind.
-If safety is the primary goal, big honking signs saying MANY SPEED CAMERAS AHEAD would be deployed. (Note: They are not.)
-Many DC speed limits are set artificially low in order to make the 10-over ticket-trigger lower. For instance, a speed limit of 25 mph on Conn. Ave in DC is a joke. 30 used to be the limit. But now, 35 will get you a ticket, not 40, so that's why it is set at 25.
-MD and VA drivers should pay their tickets. I paid my MD ticket (only one so far in 10 years!). Was last year in Rockville, and it was $40. Which brings me to my final point...
-DC's $100 fine is set too high and is obviously predatory. If deterrence --not revenue-- is the goal, make it $50. People will get the message!

The $100 fine is applied to drivers who are traveling at least 11 mph above the posted limit. Per the point above, such speeds are incredibly dangerous and the high fine is warranted to deter them. The argument that lowering the fine is necessary to deliver the "message" is silly. What DC should do, however, is introduce smaller fines ($40 or $50) for drivers caught doing 5-10 mph above the limit..

Dude, 35 is not incredibly dangerous. You're high or mentally broken if you're actually believing that. $100 is an absurd fine. $50? Yeah, sure, I'll pay that and not grouse whatsoever. But you're just the exact type of person literally every driver hates.

Don't limit it to drivers. Everyone hates people with that level of control freakishness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these things can be true:
-Drivers need to drive safer and slower.
-Many DC cameras are set up to maximize revenue and have little to do with safety
-That said, cameras can and do effectively change driver habits when deployed with safety in mind.
-If safety is the primary goal, big honking signs saying MANY SPEED CAMERAS AHEAD would be deployed. (Note: They are not.)
-Many DC speed limits are set artificially low in order to make the 10-over ticket-trigger lower. For instance, a speed limit of 25 mph on Conn. Ave in DC is a joke. 30 used to be the limit. But now, 35 will get you a ticket, not 40, so that's why it is set at 25.
-MD and VA drivers should pay their tickets. I paid my MD ticket (only one so far in 10 years!). Was last year in Rockville, and it was $40. Which brings me to my final point...
-DC's $100 fine is set too high and is obviously predatory. If deterrence --not revenue-- is the goal, make it $50. People will get the message!

The $100 fine is applied to drivers who are traveling at least 11 mph above the posted limit. Per the point above, such speeds are incredibly dangerous and the high fine is warranted to deter them. The argument that lowering the fine is necessary to deliver the "message" is silly. What DC should do, however, is introduce smaller fines ($40 or $50) for drivers caught doing 5-10 mph above the limit..

Dude, 35 is not incredibly dangerous. You're high or mentally broken if you're actually believing that. $100 is an absurd fine. $50? Yeah, sure, I'll pay that and not grouse whatsoever. But you're just the exact type of person literally every driver hates.

Feel free to put yourself in front of a vehicle going 35mph.

Failing that, at least have the decency to look up the research on fatality rates for people hit by vehicles doing such speeds.

You sound like exactly the kind of person that is prone to literally maiming and killing other road users. And exactly the reason why $100 fines are justified.

Please stay the hell away from DC.

No they don't. You on the other hand seem somewhat off kilter. Perhaps city living is not your cup of tea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these things can be true:
-Drivers need to drive safer and slower.
-Many DC cameras are set up to maximize revenue and have little to do with safety
-That said, cameras can and do effectively change driver habits when deployed with safety in mind.
-If safety is the primary goal, big honking signs saying MANY SPEED CAMERAS AHEAD would be deployed. (Note: They are not.)
-Many DC speed limits are set artificially low in order to make the 10-over ticket-trigger lower. For instance, a speed limit of 25 mph on Conn. Ave in DC is a joke. 30 used to be the limit. But now, 35 will get you a ticket, not 40, so that's why it is set at 25.
-MD and VA drivers should pay their tickets. I paid my MD ticket (only one so far in 10 years!). Was last year in Rockville, and it was $40. Which brings me to my final point...
-DC's $100 fine is set too high and is obviously predatory. If deterrence --not revenue-- is the goal, make it $50. People will get the message!

The $100 fine is applied to drivers who are traveling at least 11 mph above the posted limit. Per the point above, such speeds are incredibly dangerous and the high fine is warranted to deter them. The argument that lowering the fine is necessary to deliver the "message" is silly. What DC should do, however, is introduce smaller fines ($40 or $50) for drivers caught doing 5-10 mph above the limit..

Dude, 35 is not incredibly dangerous. You're high or mentally broken if you're actually believing that. $100 is an absurd fine. $50? Yeah, sure, I'll pay that and not grouse whatsoever. But you're just the exact type of person literally every driver hates.

On behalf of my neighbor who was killed by a driver who also didn’t see any issue with driving 10-15mph above posted DC speed limits, I’m here to tell you that you are a dangerous idiot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these things can be true:
-Drivers need to drive safer and slower.
-Many DC cameras are set up to maximize revenue and have little to do with safety
-That said, cameras can and do effectively change driver habits when deployed with safety in mind.
-If safety is the primary goal, big honking signs saying MANY SPEED CAMERAS AHEAD would be deployed. (Note: They are not.)
-Many DC speed limits are set artificially low in order to make the 10-over ticket-trigger lower. For instance, a speed limit of 25 mph on Conn. Ave in DC is a joke. 30 used to be the limit. But now, 35 will get you a ticket, not 40, so that's why it is set at 25.
-MD and VA drivers should pay their tickets. I paid my MD ticket (only one so far in 10 years!). Was last year in Rockville, and it was $40. Which brings me to my final point...
-DC's $100 fine is set too high and is obviously predatory. If deterrence --not revenue-- is the goal, make it $50. People will get the message!

The $100 fine is applied to drivers who are traveling at least 11 mph above the posted limit. Per the point above, such speeds are incredibly dangerous and the high fine is warranted to deter them. The argument that lowering the fine is necessary to deliver the "message" is silly. What DC should do, however, is introduce smaller fines ($40 or $50) for drivers caught doing 5-10 mph above the limit..

Dude, 35 is not incredibly dangerous. You're high or mentally broken if you're actually believing that. $100 is an absurd fine. $50? Yeah, sure, I'll pay that and not grouse whatsoever. But you're just the exact type of person literally every driver hates.

Don't limit it to drivers. Everyone hates people with that level of control freakishness.

“control freakishness” = enforcing laws needed to protect DC residents from injury and death?

Where the hell do you people come from exactly? Dollars to donuts you are the same folk railing against shoplifting and people smoking pot in public. In other words, total hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these things can be true:
-Drivers need to drive safer and slower.
-Many DC cameras are set up to maximize revenue and have little to do with safety
-That said, cameras can and do effectively change driver habits when deployed with safety in mind.
-If safety is the primary goal, big honking signs saying MANY SPEED CAMERAS AHEAD would be deployed. (Note: They are not.)
-Many DC speed limits are set artificially low in order to make the 10-over ticket-trigger lower. For instance, a speed limit of 25 mph on Conn. Ave in DC is a joke. 30 used to be the limit. But now, 35 will get you a ticket, not 40, so that's why it is set at 25.
-MD and VA drivers should pay their tickets. I paid my MD ticket (only one so far in 10 years!). Was last year in Rockville, and it was $40. Which brings me to my final point...
-DC's $100 fine is set too high and is obviously predatory. If deterrence --not revenue-- is the goal, make it $50. People will get the message!

The $100 fine is applied to drivers who are traveling at least 11 mph above the posted limit. Per the point above, such speeds are incredibly dangerous and the high fine is warranted to deter them. The argument that lowering the fine is necessary to deliver the "message" is silly. What DC should do, however, is introduce smaller fines ($40 or $50) for drivers caught doing 5-10 mph above the limit..

Dude, 35 is not incredibly dangerous. You're high or mentally broken if you're actually believing that. $100 is an absurd fine. $50? Yeah, sure, I'll pay that and not grouse whatsoever. But you're just the exact type of person literally every driver hates.

Don't limit it to drivers. Everyone hates people with that level of control freakishness.

“control freakishness” = enforcing laws needed to protect DC residents from injury and death?

Where the hell do you people come from exactly? Dollars to donuts you are the same folk railing against shoplifting and people smoking pot in public. In other words, total hypocrites.

Automatic cameras everywhere issuing $50 fines anytime anyone is 5mph over any speed limit. That seems very sane and not at all controlling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these things can be true:
-Drivers need to drive safer and slower.
-Many DC cameras are set up to maximize revenue and have little to do with safety
-That said, cameras can and do effectively change driver habits when deployed with safety in mind.
-If safety is the primary goal, big honking signs saying MANY SPEED CAMERAS AHEAD would be deployed. (Note: They are not.)
-Many DC speed limits are set artificially low in order to make the 10-over ticket-trigger lower. For instance, a speed limit of 25 mph on Conn. Ave in DC is a joke. 30 used to be the limit. But now, 35 will get you a ticket, not 40, so that's why it is set at 25.
-MD and VA drivers should pay their tickets. I paid my MD ticket (only one so far in 10 years!). Was last year in Rockville, and it was $40. Which brings me to my final point...
-DC's $100 fine is set too high and is obviously predatory. If deterrence --not revenue-- is the goal, make it $50. People will get the message!

The $100 fine is applied to drivers who are traveling at least 11 mph above the posted limit. Per the point above, such speeds are incredibly dangerous and the high fine is warranted to deter them. The argument that lowering the fine is necessary to deliver the "message" is silly. What DC should do, however, is introduce smaller fines ($40 or $50) for drivers caught doing 5-10 mph above the limit..

Dude, 35 is not incredibly dangerous. You're high or mentally broken if you're actually believing that. $100 is an absurd fine. $50? Yeah, sure, I'll pay that and not grouse whatsoever. But you're just the exact type of person literally every driver hates.

Don't limit it to drivers. Everyone hates people with that level of control freakishness.

“control freakishness” = enforcing laws needed to protect DC residents from injury and death?

Where the hell do you people come from exactly? Dollars to donuts you are the same folk railing against shoplifting and people smoking pot in public. In other words, total hypocrites.

Automatic cameras everywhere issuing $50 fines anytime anyone is 5mph over any speed limit. That seems very sane and not at all controlling.

If you don’t want a ticket, don’t speed. Or don’t drive. My spouse got one speed camera ticket a few years ago, and since then, we’ve both driven more slowly. Haven’t gotten a second.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these things can be true:
-Drivers need to drive safer and slower.
-Many DC cameras are set up to maximize revenue and have little to do with safety
-That said, cameras can and do effectively change driver habits when deployed with safety in mind.
-If safety is the primary goal, big honking signs saying MANY SPEED CAMERAS AHEAD would be deployed. (Note: They are not.)
-Many DC speed limits are set artificially low in order to make the 10-over ticket-trigger lower. For instance, a speed limit of 25 mph on Conn. Ave in DC is a joke. 30 used to be the limit. But now, 35 will get you a ticket, not 40, so that's why it is set at 25.
-MD and VA drivers should pay their tickets. I paid my MD ticket (only one so far in 10 years!). Was last year in Rockville, and it was $40. Which brings me to my final point...
-DC's $100 fine is set too high and is obviously predatory. If deterrence --not revenue-- is the goal, make it $50. People will get the message!

The $100 fine is applied to drivers who are traveling at least 11 mph above the posted limit. Per the point above, such speeds are incredibly dangerous and the high fine is warranted to deter them. The argument that lowering the fine is necessary to deliver the "message" is silly. What DC should do, however, is introduce smaller fines ($40 or $50) for drivers caught doing 5-10 mph above the limit..

Dude, 35 is not incredibly dangerous. You're high or mentally broken if you're actually believing that. $100 is an absurd fine. $50? Yeah, sure, I'll pay that and not grouse whatsoever. But you're just the exact type of person literally every driver hates.

Don't limit it to drivers. Everyone hates people with that level of control freakishness.

“control freakishness” = enforcing laws needed to protect DC residents from injury and death?

Where the hell do you people come from exactly? Dollars to donuts you are the same folk railing against shoplifting and people smoking pot in public. In other words, total hypocrites.

Automatic cameras everywhere issuing $50 fines anytime anyone is 5mph over any speed limit. That seems very sane and not at all controlling.

Yes, it does.

If you can't drive without speeding, you shouldn't be driving at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these things can be true:
-Drivers need to drive safer and slower.
-Many DC cameras are set up to maximize revenue and have little to do with safety
-That said, cameras can and do effectively change driver habits when deployed with safety in mind.
-If safety is the primary goal, big honking signs saying MANY SPEED CAMERAS AHEAD would be deployed. (Note: They are not.)
-Many DC speed limits are set artificially low in order to make the 10-over ticket-trigger lower. For instance, a speed limit of 25 mph on Conn. Ave in DC is a joke. 30 used to be the limit. But now, 35 will get you a ticket, not 40, so that's why it is set at 25.
-MD and VA drivers should pay their tickets. I paid my MD ticket (only one so far in 10 years!). Was last year in Rockville, and it was $40. Which brings me to my final point...
-DC's $100 fine is set too high and is obviously predatory. If deterrence --not revenue-- is the goal, make it $50. People will get the message!

The $100 fine is applied to drivers who are traveling at least 11 mph above the posted limit. Per the point above, such speeds are incredibly dangerous and the high fine is warranted to deter them. The argument that lowering the fine is necessary to deliver the "message" is silly. What DC should do, however, is introduce smaller fines ($40 or $50) for drivers caught doing 5-10 mph above the limit..

Dude, 35 is not incredibly dangerous. You're high or mentally broken if you're actually believing that. $100 is an absurd fine. $50? Yeah, sure, I'll pay that and not grouse whatsoever. But you're just the exact type of person literally every driver hates.

According to AAA, if you're driving 35 mph and you hit someone, you have a greater than 25% chance (1 in 4) of killing them and a greater than 50% chance (1 in 2) of seriously injuring them. That sounds incredibly dangerous to me.

[Anonymous]

The streets are quite safe. Accidents are rare. Very few Washingtonians die in traffic accidents. If they weren't safe, we wouldn't allow people to put children on bikes on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The streets are quite safe. Accidents are rare. Very few Washingtonians die in traffic accidents. If they weren't safe, we wouldn't allow people to put children on bikes on them.

The police say there are more traffic deaths in DC that are caused by pedestrians than by drivers who are speeding (12 vs. 9).