Easiest T25?

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Anonymous wrote:What's the easiest top school to get into?

Where you stand out, for example if you are from NY or SF or Alaska, Vanderbilt or Rice would want you for geographical diversity.

Vanderbilt gets so many NY/CT/NJ applications now!!
Lol.
the pp is clueless.

Your odds would still be better than for Columbia or Princeton with majority NY/CT/NJ applies.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on your specific high school!!

It definitely does not. Two schools, Emory and Wash U, have ED1 acceptance rates double or TRIPLE OR MORE other schools in the T25.

WashU requires HIGHER stats from our private than a half dozen schools ranked higher. It doesn't matter what WashU's national acceptance rate it, it matters which students it takes FROM YOUR SCHOOL.

They routinely require a 3.95. Duke will take kids in the 3.8s. Cornell will go down to 3.7. FROM OUR HIGH SCHOOL. Your school is probably different. Every school is different.

This actually is likely demonstrable false. Wash U takes 35 percent of kids ED1 and Duke takes 11 or 12 percent. There is no way Wash U has a more competitive applicant pool than Duke. You are likely looking at stats that include hooked kids at one school but not the other, and it sounds like your high school doesn’t do well placing kids at top school or you are fibbing.

First, WashU's ED1 and ED2 combined acceptance rate is 25%.

2nd, if WashU accepts basically all 3.95+ GPA kids that apply ED and accepts almost none 3.8...but Duke accepts a much higher %age of 3.8 kids ED and rejects a much higher %age of 3.95 kids (compared to WashU)...then in fact the 3.8 kid would correctly take their shot at Duke vs. WashU.

Conversely, the 3.95 kid (who I guess wants certainty of attending a Top 25 school) would pick WashU.

I guess PP knows these facts for their school.

The combined rate of 25 percent is entirely consistent with an ED1 acceptance rate of 35 percent and an ED2 around 12.

But let’s be real, pp ais likely a pissed off Wash U parent. I have no dog in this fight and Duke is a much harder admit at our privates than wash u at every stage of admissions (have kids at two single sex schools), which is what you would expect given the relative rankings, acceptance rates and popularity of the two schools.

No, I'm not a WashU parent. my kids have never even looked at the school. I'm just using it as an example. It's a hard admit from our private. I have no idea why. Maybe the high school rescinded an ED at some point or otherwise angered washu. Who knows. But when you're at a private you see definite trends in admissions. Some colleges are weirdly easy to get into (much easier than the general population--like cornell basically takes kids with 3.7s from our school) but others are unusually difficult (UVA being one--kids routinely get into Ivies--even HYP--from our school--and not UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok so if a T20 schools is admitting 7% of a private high school's in RD (and not the "top" kids in the class either) - does that mean that the T20 views the HS as a feeder?

And relatedly, should we take the admissions data that the school gave us (how many admitted in 2024, and over last x years) and run analysis on it to find the trends?

Sometimes you have to look at the nominal numbers vs. %ages. If your private school has 125 kids in a graduating class, and they are admitting 9 or 10...then yes.

If your school has 50 kids then 1 kid can move the %ages by 2%.

How would you run this analysis? I have this data from our meetings
non-DMV private btw.

You know how many kids are in your school's class, right? Just saying that you need some critical mass for your school for a %age to mean something.

Wow.
Input the data into Claude and ask for analysis. Holy shit is it insightful.
Make sure you input both matriculation, and admission, class size for each year (if you are doing 4 years or whatever) along with an specific summaries about WL movement.

AI rocks here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's the easiest top school to get into?

Where you stand out, for example if you are from NY or SF or Alaska, Vanderbilt or Rice would want you for geographical diversity.

Vanderbilt gets so many NY/CT/NJ applications now!!
Lol.
the pp is clueless.

Your odds would still be better than for Columbia or Princeton with majority NY/CT/NJ applies.

Applying to Vanderbilt from the tri-state or Bay areas confers no advantages at all. A high percentage of students come from the NY area and California. But it might help a little at Rice. They are actually expanding their class size over the next few cycles. They're building the infrastructure for it now. And I think they're trying to broaden their geographical reach. Rice gets 38 percent of their class from Texas, which isn't that unusual for the bigger states. Stanford gets 36 percent from California. But I think Rice is seeking to become a more "national" university.

As for easiest to get in T25 - in-state to Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan, and UVA obviously. Then ED to WashU, Emory, and non-STEM majors at CMU.

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UVA Engineering. UVA is very weak in STEM.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA Engineering. UVA is very weak in STEM.

This guy again. UVA does not have separate admissions to engineering. Acceptance rate is the same as for other majors.

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Anonymous wrote:VA TECH

Um, VA Tech is not T25.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on your specific high school!!

It definitely does not. Two schools, Emory and Wash U, have ED1 acceptance rates double or TRIPLE OR MORE other schools in the T25.

This is a lie
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/early-vs-regular-decision-admission-rates/
Emory and WashU ED rate is 26%
Amherst is 32%
Barnard is 33%
Dartmouth is 21%
Northwestern is 22%
Williams is 31%

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This board loves to pick on Emory, it's so weird. Any other time most of you won't even admit Emory is T25 until it's time to name the easiest , and it's the first school mentioned. Regardless, Emory has a lower acceptance rate than WashU, Georgetown, CMU, UVA, Umich, Notre Dame, Berkeley. Has/had higher test scores than Notre Dame, UVA, Umich, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley. We get it you thought Emory was a target school, yet DC still didn't get it in.

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Anonymous wrote:This is such a dumb question. You want top 25 (according to US News I presume) just to say it’s top 25? No regard for fit or location or vibe? Just where can my kid get in to say it’s top 25? Smh.

Yup, it's a bit ridiculous. Some kids apply to 10+ T25 schools. When in reality there is no way 10+ schools in T25 are good fits for someone.
Spend the time to find a great it for your kid. They will be happier, don't just chase prestige

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Anonymous wrote:What's the easiest top school to get into?

There is no easiest top school. there are easy majors and hard majors. it is much harder to get into Cornell Eng and Cornell CAS than ILR and HumEc Cornell.

Good point.
Cornell Hotel Management is one of the easiest.
CMU ED is one of the easiest but not for College of CS or even Engineering.

Outside of Music or Drama, seriously why would anyone target CMU if not for CS or engineering? That's why it's "easiest"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on your specific high school!!

It definitely does not. Two schools, Emory and Wash U, have ED1 acceptance rates double or TRIPLE OR MORE other schools in the T25.

This is a lie
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/early-vs-regular-decision-admission-rates/
Emory and WashU ED rate is 26%
Amherst is 32%
Barnard is 33%
Dartmouth is 21%
Northwestern is 22%
Williams is 31%

Don’t know why this has to be said repeatedly, you are citing the combined ED1 and ED 2 rates for Wash U and Emory. ED1 rates for both these schools is over 30 percent for both, close to or equal to 35 percent . ED2 is closer to 12 percent,

You are also using inaccurate rates for the other schools. For the most recent cycle, ED rate at Dartmouth was 17 (half Emory and Wash U), Northwestern was. 19, and the rest of the schools you listed are not T25 national universities. In terms of actual T25 schools, Rice ED rate was 15 percent, Duke 13 percent, Cornell 18 percent, and Notre Dame 15 percent. The SCEA at the top schools were 5 to 7 percent.


So, yes, 30 to 35 percent is double, triple of more of the early admission rates of most T25s.

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Anonymous wrote:What's the easiest top school to get into?

There is no easiest top school. there are easy majors and hard majors. it is much harder to get into Cornell Eng and Cornell CAS than ILR and HumEc Cornell.

Good point.
Cornell Hotel Management is one of the easiest.
CMU ED is one of the easiest but not for College of CS or even Engineering.

Outside of Music or Drama, seriously why would anyone target CMU if not for CS or engineering? That's why it's "easiest"

Business program is top 10. Not sure how easy an admit that might be.

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Anonymous wrote:This board loves to pick on Emory, it's so weird. Any other time most of you won't even admit Emory is T25 until it's time to name the easiest , and it's the first school mentioned. Regardless, Emory has a lower acceptance rate than WashU, Georgetown, CMU, UVA, Umich, Notre Dame, Berkeley. Has/had higher test scores than Notre Dame, UVA, Umich, Georgetown, UCLA, Berkeley. We get it you thought Emory was a target school, yet DC still didn't get it in.

Again, Emory has a far higher early decision 1 rate than any other T 25 school. it also take 40 percent of the class test optional, which inflates its average test score.

[Anonymous]

If you want to attend a large public school, attend where you've instate tuition or scholarship. Why waste money on OSS?