Easiest T25?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on your specific high school!!

It definitely does not. Two schools, Emory and Wash U, have ED1 acceptance rates double or TRIPLE OR MORE other schools in the T25.

WashU requires HIGHER stats from our private than a half dozen schools ranked higher. It doesn't matter what WashU's national acceptance rate it, it matters which students it takes FROM YOUR SCHOOL.

They routinely require a 3.95. Duke will take kids in the 3.8s. Cornell will go down to 3.7. FROM OUR HIGH SCHOOL. Your school is probably different. Every school is different.

This actually is likely demonstrable false. Wash U takes 35 percent of kids ED1 and Duke takes 11 or 12 percent. There is no way Wash U has a more competitive applicant pool than Duke. You are likely looking at stats that include hooked kids at one school but not the other, and it sounds like your high school doesn’t do well placing kids at top school or you are fibbing.

First, WashU's ED1 and ED2 combined acceptance rate is 25%.

2nd, if WashU accepts basically all 3.95+ GPA kids that apply ED and accepts almost none 3.8...but Duke accepts a much higher %age of 3.8 kids ED and rejects a much higher %age of 3.95 kids (compared to WashU)...then in fact the 3.8 kid would correctly take their shot at Duke vs. WashU.

Conversely, the 3.95 kid (who I guess wants certainty of attending a Top 25 school) would pick WashU.

I guess PP knows these facts for their school.

[Anonymous]

Ok so if a T20 schools is admitting 7% of a private high school's in RD (and not the "top" kids in the class either) - does that mean that the T20 views the HS as a feeder?

And relatedly, should we take the admissions data that the school gave us (how many admitted in 2024, and over last x years) and run analysis on it to find the trends?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on your specific high school!!

It definitely does not. Two schools, Emory and Wash U, have ED1 acceptance rates double or TRIPLE OR MORE other schools in the T25.

WashU requires HIGHER stats from our private than a half dozen schools ranked higher. It doesn't matter what WashU's national acceptance rate it, it matters which students it takes FROM YOUR SCHOOL.

They routinely require a 3.95. Duke will take kids in the 3.8s. Cornell will go down to 3.7. FROM OUR HIGH SCHOOL. Your school is probably different. Every school is different.

This actually is likely demonstrable false. Wash U takes 35 percent of kids ED1 and Duke takes 11 or 12 percent. There is no way Wash U has a more competitive applicant pool than Duke. You are likely looking at stats that include hooked kids at one school but not the other, and it sounds like your high school doesn’t do well placing kids at top school or you are fibbing.

First, WashU's ED1 and ED2 combined acceptance rate is 25%.

2nd, if WashU accepts basically all 3.95+ GPA kids that apply ED and accepts almost none 3.8...but Duke accepts a much higher %age of 3.8 kids ED and rejects a much higher %age of 3.95 kids (compared to WashU)...then in fact the 3.8 kid would correctly take their shot at Duke vs. WashU.

Conversely, the 3.95 kid (who I guess wants certainty of attending a Top 25 school) would pick WashU.

I guess PP knows these facts for their school.

Duke and WashU look for different things in kids.
And WashU yield protects in RD....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ok so if a T20 schools is admitting 7% of a private high school's in RD (and not the "top" kids in the class either) - does that mean that the T20 views the HS as a feeder?

And relatedly, should we take the admissions data that the school gave us (how many admitted in 2024, and over last x years) and run analysis on it to find the trends?

Sometimes you have to look at the nominal numbers vs. %ages. If your private school has 125 kids in a graduating class, and they are admitting 9 or 10...then yes.

If your school has 50 kids then 1 kid can move the %ages by 2%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on your specific high school!!

It definitely does not. Two schools, Emory and Wash U, have ED1 acceptance rates double or TRIPLE OR MORE other schools in the T25.

WashU requires HIGHER stats from our private than a half dozen schools ranked higher. It doesn't matter what WashU's national acceptance rate it, it matters which students it takes FROM YOUR SCHOOL.

They routinely require a 3.95. Duke will take kids in the 3.8s. Cornell will go down to 3.7. FROM OUR HIGH SCHOOL. Your school is probably different. Every school is different.

This actually is likely demonstrable false. Wash U takes 35 percent of kids ED1 and Duke takes 11 or 12 percent. There is no way Wash U has a more competitive applicant pool than Duke. You are likely looking at stats that include hooked kids at one school but not the other, and it sounds like your high school doesn’t do well placing kids at top school or you are fibbing.

You are being incredibly dense.
Have you seen the 4 year SCOIR data from our school? No. I am telling you, WashU has required a higher GPA for each of the past 4 years than Duke or Cornell have. This is among unhooked applicants as the hooked are removed from Scoir. I don't care what the national admission rates are.

Sounds like kids from your school aren’t applying ED1. There is no question that WashU and Emory become much more selective for ED2 and RD. Or you are just a parent of a kid at Wash U who is triggered by this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so if a T20 schools is admitting 7% of a private high school's in RD (and not the "top" kids in the class either) - does that mean that the T20 views the HS as a feeder?

And relatedly, should we take the admissions data that the school gave us (how many admitted in 2024, and over last x years) and run analysis on it to find the trends?

Sometimes you have to look at the nominal numbers vs. %ages. If your private school has 125 kids in a graduating class, and they are admitting 9 or 10...then yes.

If your school has 50 kids then 1 kid can move the %ages by 2%.

How would you run this analysis? I have this data from our meetings
non-DMV private btw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so if a T20 schools is admitting 7% of a private high school's in RD (and not the "top" kids in the class either) - does that mean that the T20 views the HS as a feeder?

And relatedly, should we take the admissions data that the school gave us (how many admitted in 2024, and over last x years) and run analysis on it to find the trends?

Sometimes you have to look at the nominal numbers vs. %ages. If your private school has 125 kids in a graduating class, and they are admitting 9 or 10...then yes.

If your school has 50 kids then 1 kid can move the %ages by 2%.

How would you run this analysis? I have this data from our meetings
non-DMV private btw.

You know how many kids are in your school's class, right? Just saying that you need some critical mass for your school for a %age to mean something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on your specific high school!!

It definitely does not. Two schools, Emory and Wash U, have ED1 acceptance rates double or TRIPLE OR MORE other schools in the T25.

WashU requires HIGHER stats from our private than a half dozen schools ranked higher. It doesn't matter what WashU's national acceptance rate it, it matters which students it takes FROM YOUR SCHOOL.

They routinely require a 3.95. Duke will take kids in the 3.8s. Cornell will go down to 3.7. FROM OUR HIGH SCHOOL. Your school is probably different. Every school is different.

This actually is likely demonstrable false. Wash U takes 35 percent of kids ED1 and Duke takes 11 or 12 percent. There is no way Wash U has a more competitive applicant pool than Duke. You are likely looking at stats that include hooked kids at one school but not the other, and it sounds like your high school doesn’t do well placing kids at top school or you are fibbing.

First, WashU's ED1 and ED2 combined acceptance rate is 25%.

2nd, if WashU accepts basically all 3.95+ GPA kids that apply ED and accepts almost none 3.8...but Duke accepts a much higher %age of 3.8 kids ED and rejects a much higher %age of 3.95 kids (compared to WashU)...then in fact the 3.8 kid would correctly take their shot at Duke vs. WashU.

Conversely, the 3.95 kid (who I guess wants certainty of attending a Top 25 school) would pick WashU.

I guess PP knows these facts for their school.

The combined rate of 25 percent is entirely consistent with an ED1 acceptance rate of 35 percent and an ED2 around 12.

But let’s be real, pp ais likely a pissed off Wash U parent. I have no dog in this fight and Duke is a much harder admit at our privates than wash u at every stage of admissions (have kids at two single sex schools), which is what you would expect given the relative rankings, acceptance rates and popularity of the two schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the easiest top school to get into?

Where you stand out, for example if you are from NY or SF or Alaska, Vanderbilt or Rice would want you for geographical diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the easiest top school to get into?

Where you can ED to show your commitment to attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so if a T20 schools is admitting 7% of a private high school's in RD (and not the "top" kids in the class either) - does that mean that the T20 views the HS as a feeder?

And relatedly, should we take the admissions data that the school gave us (how many admitted in 2024, and over last x years) and run analysis on it to find the trends?

Sometimes you have to look at the nominal numbers vs. %ages. If your private school has 125 kids in a graduating class, and they are admitting 9 or 10...then yes.

If your school has 50 kids then 1 kid can move the %ages by 2%.

How would you run this analysis? I have this data from our meetings
non-DMV private btw.

You know how many kids are in your school's class, right? Just saying that you need some critical mass for your school for a %age to mean something.

Yes, and its closer to your option 1 (125) than option 2. In between.

The T20 last year that admitted 7% last year (most in RD) is on everyone's radar now. But I want to use the admit data to see what else is a surprise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the easiest top school to get into?

Where you stand out, for example if you are from NY or SF or Alaska, Vanderbilt or Rice would want you for geographical diversity.

Vanderbilt gets so many NY/CT/NJ applications now!!
Lol.
the pp is clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the easiest top school to get into?

There is no easiest top school. there are easy majors and hard majors.

Most top schools don't admit by major and you don't even have to declare one until sophomore year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the easiest top school to get into?

Focus on ones other than Ivies, Stanford and MIT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the easiest top school to get into?

There is no easiest top school. there are easy majors and hard majors.

Most top schools don't admit by major and you don't even have to declare one until sophomore year.

While they may not admit by major, listing a classics or true humanities major is less scrutinized than an over-rep major (business, Eng, CS) - with corresponding "matching ECs".

A lot has been written about this from former AO (not random parents) on reddit.