Country club scene at the all girls schools

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Anonymous wrote:DD is at Visi and having a very good experience. While we belong to the Metropolitan Club, we do not belong to a country club (nobody in our family golfs). Country clubs are sometimes mentioned among the girls, but family club membership does not seem to be a disqualifier in making school friends. The school clubs often have events and gatherings (like award banquets) at these places, which is a nice way for non-member girls to experience them. This has not been a factor in our daughter’s life.


Metropolitan Club is now run by the same people that run Chevy so they are one and the same if not worse. Involved with blackballing at least one or two families from Chevy.
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Anonymous wrote:All 3 new current parent members to the Governing Board at St. Albans belong to Chevy Country Club, in addition to several that are already on the board.



I’m on a different board and we have a similar phenomenon.

What we’ve found is that it is very, very difficult to get people to make the leaps from saying they should be on the board to volunteering with a committee for 1-3 years to be eligible for being on the board to committing to multi-year terms that include multiple meetings per month. Everyone says they want to be on the board but the people who commit and do the heavy lifting tend to be people with strong social ties who feel an obligation to each other, the school, and the work. I have served on a trustee committee (responsible for recruiting new trustees) and we don’t think about club memberships. We focuson who has been actively serving the school, their professional background and how it fits our current needs (risk management, facilities planning and investment management). I think that active club members often overlap with board members both require similar energy levels and willingness to work with others and get along.
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Anonymous wrote:NCS has a few country club girls but it's not a prevailing culture at all. Even most of the wealthiest families in my girls' grades do not belong to a club.

Most of the country club set leave in middle school or by 9th grade. For example, in the current 9th grade, almost all of the country club girls left for Stone Ridge for high school.


Ha! This is so not true. There’s a holiday dance coming up at CCC geared to NCS and STA kids for certain grades but only those kids and their select friends get invited.


My kids were invited and we're not CCC members.


This year? Did you receive your invite for this year?



You sound manic. My kid went last year and almost all the kids left after an hour. It was a non-event and frankly a waste of money. The kids are over dances after a few years of homecoming.
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Anonymous wrote:All 3 new current parent members to the Governing Board at St. Albans belong to Chevy Country Club, in addition to several that are already on the board.



I’m on a different board and we have a similar phenomenon.

What we’ve found is that it is very, very difficult to get people to make the leaps from saying they should be on the board to volunteering with a committee for 1-3 years to be eligible for being on the board to committing to multi-year terms that include multiple meetings per month. Everyone says they want to be on the board but the people who commit and do the heavy lifting tend to be people with strong social ties who feel an obligation to each other, the school, and the work. I have served on a trustee committee (responsible for recruiting new trustees) and we don’t think about club memberships. We focuson who has been actively serving the school, their professional background and how it fits our current needs (risk management, facilities planning and investment management). I think that active club members often overlap with board members both require similar energy levels and willingness to work with others and get along.


DP. Your experience is yours but it does not apply to all. False - being active at a social club which does not allow certain families to join has absolutely zero to do with being on a school hoard EXCEPT a that your paths cross so when you think of a person to join the board you think of them instead of considering a wide range of people from all walks of kinds at the school. I certainly hope you are not on our kids board. Your outlook is really bizarre.
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Anonymous wrote:All 3 new current parent members to the Governing Board at St. Albans belong to Chevy Country Club, in addition to several that are already on the board.



I’m on a different board and we have a similar phenomenon.

What we’ve found is that it is very, very difficult to get people to make the leaps from saying they should be on the board to volunteering with a committee for 1-3 years to be eligible for being on the board to committing to multi-year terms that include multiple meetings per month. Everyone says they want to be on the board but the people who commit and do the heavy lifting tend to be people with strong social ties who feel an obligation to each other, the school, and the work. I have served on a trustee committee (responsible for recruiting new trustees) and we don’t think about club memberships. We focuson who has been actively serving the school, their professional background and how it fits our current needs (risk management, facilities planning and investment management). I think that active club members often overlap with board members both require similar energy levels and willingness to work with others and get along.


DP. Your experience is yours but it does not apply to all. False - being active at a social club which does not allow certain families to join has absolutely zero to do with being on a school hoard EXCEPT a that your paths cross so when you think of a person to join the board you think of them instead of considering a wide range of people from all walks of kinds at the school. I certainly hope you are not on our kids board. Your outlook is really bizarre.


We cast a VERY wide net. The people who accept invitations to serve on committees that support the Board often turn out to be members of local clubs. We don’t recruit for these people and I don’t think any of us who were on the trustee committee knew anything beyond their professional background when doing interviews and recruiting the years that I did it- we were not current parents and were pretty disconnected from the current parent community by design.

All I’m saying is that often, club people are joiners and community-minded and extroverted, so they gravitate towards the initial volunteering scut work that’s adjacent to the Board’s long-term work that puts them on the radar for future board work. And I say this as a non club member.
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Anonymous wrote:We just graduated from a preschool where about a third of parents are chevy members. Unfortunately it shapes everything at this age and is at the point where people hide their affiliations because the rep is that bad.

It definitely informed where we went next!


DP. Chevy members are at the center of so many complaints across several schools yet a few schools still consistently appoint the Chevy crowd to their governing board. It is shocking. On a positive note they saved us a lot of money by doing so this year as we are now not donating what we had planned originally.



It's not shocking. Those same parents you mention bring something to the table - they are DC partners in law firms, financial experts or run successful businesses and are good at management. When I am asked to serve on school boards, it's because I bring special expertise that no one else has. It has nothing to do with a country club membership.


You sound naive. This is DC. You don’t think people with this experience are a dime a dozen? They aren’t just found in country clubs, not to mention one particular club.
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Anonymous wrote:We just graduated from a preschool where about a third of parents are chevy members. Unfortunately it shapes everything at this age and is at the point where people hide their affiliations because the rep is that bad.

It definitely informed where we went next!


DP. Chevy members are at the center of so many complaints across several schools yet a few schools still consistently appoint the Chevy crowd to their governing board. It is shocking. On a positive note they saved us a lot of money by doing so this year as we are now not donating what we had planned originally.



It's not shocking. Those same parents you mention bring something to the table - they are DC partners in law firms, financial experts or run successful businesses and are good at management. When I am asked to serve on school boards, it's because I bring special expertise that no one else has. It has nothing to do with a country club membership.


You sound naive. This is DC. You don’t think people with this experience are a dime a dozen? They aren’t just found in country clubs, not to mention one particular club.


This. It’s the same group of people all the time who float in the same social circles but for the one person who is the outlier that’s been put ion the board to try and give an appearance of neutrality. It’s a joke. Add to this the cattiness one experiences when even trying to take on any type of role that isn’t just volunteer grunt work (help pass out gold stars) it’s toxic and the schools turn a blind eye.
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Anonymous wrote:DD is at Visi and having a very good experience. While we belong to the Metropolitan Club, we do not belong to a country club (nobody in our family golfs). Country clubs are sometimes mentioned among the girls, but family club membership does not seem to be a disqualifier in making school friends. The school clubs often have events and gatherings (like award banquets) at these places, which is a nice way for non-member girls to experience them. This has not been a factor in our daughter’s life.


Metropolitan Club is now run by the same people that run Chevy so they are one and the same if not worse. Involved with blackballing at least one or two families from Chevy.


Like Justice Kavanaugh's family?
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We are at SR and I see the Country Club seen as definitely part of the culture of my kids grade.
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Anonymous wrote:My daughter graduated from Visi in 2021 and I can tell you that a large portion of the class were CC members. You may not know it because not all of us flaunt it. But not belonging certainly doesn't remove you from social circles. My daughter's friend group certainly had non-club members and no one cared one way or another. It's probably more noticeable in younger years when everyone is doing swim or tennis or golf team and meet up at the pool as a social activity.


You are a member, so you probably dont know what it feels like to be in a community where being "in" is so normal, that you dont have to flaunt it. BUT trust me, the kids and families who are not "in" are acutely aware of it. The kids feel like charity cases and the parents are entirely iced out. YOU think no one cares, but really, they do.
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Anonymous wrote:We just graduated from a preschool where about a third of parents are chevy members. Unfortunately it shapes everything at this age and is at the point where people hide their affiliations because the rep is that bad.

It definitely informed where we went next!


DP. Chevy members are at the center of so many complaints across several schools yet a few schools still consistently appoint the Chevy crowd to their governing board. It is shocking. On a positive note they saved us a lot of money by doing so this year as we are now not donating what we had planned originally.



It's not shocking. Those same parents you mention bring something to the table - they are DC partners in law firms, financial experts or run successful businesses and are good at management. When I am asked to serve on school boards, it's because I bring special expertise that no one else has. It has nothing to do with a country club membership.


You sound naive. This is DC. You don’t think people with this experience are a dime a dozen? They aren’t just found in country clubs, not to mention one particular club.


Not naive at all, Ivy educated for college and T1 law school, and have served on boards and local privates and an Ivy. We look for specific talents (law, marketing, accounting, managemebnt, investments, pattern of community involvement and so on) and the willingness to serve in a volunteer capacity (in my case for five years, each stint). Same as the thoughtful PP says just above. I don't even know the the clubs my fellow board members belong to. But, I can tell you this, we don't seek out rubes like you who name call on a mommy forum.
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Anonymous wrote:We just graduated from a preschool where about a third of parents are chevy members. Unfortunately it shapes everything at this age and is at the point where people hide their affiliations because the rep is that bad.

It definitely informed where we went next!


DP. Chevy members are at the center of so many complaints across several schools yet a few schools still consistently appoint the Chevy crowd to their governing board. It is shocking. On a positive note they saved us a lot of money by doing so this year as we are now not donating what we had planned originally.



It's not shocking. Those same parents you mention bring something to the table - they are DC partners in law firms, financial experts or run successful businesses and are good at management. When I am asked to serve on school boards, it's because I bring special expertise that no one else has. It has nothing to do with a country club membership.


You sound naive. This is DC. You don’t think people with this experience are a dime a dozen? They aren’t just found in country clubs, not to mention one particular club.


Not naive at all, Ivy educated for college and T1 law school, and have served on boards and local privates and an Ivy. We look for specific talents (law, marketing, accounting, managemebnt, investments, pattern of community involvement and so on) and the willingness to serve in a volunteer capacity (in my case for five years, each stint). Same as the thoughtful PP says just above. I don't even know the the clubs my fellow board members belong to. But, I can tell you this, we don't seek out rubes like you who name call on a mommy forum.


You are getting these positions through your connections and not your expertise. I agree with pp - Ivy educated wealthy successful nice people are a dime a dozen in the DC area. I can literally name off 10 off of the top of my head. They would all be wonderful board members but yet they never get asked. They do not rub elbows at the right places. Shame for schools and other boards because these people would be wonderful assets.
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Anonymous wrote:We just graduated from a preschool where about a third of parents are chevy members. Unfortunately it shapes everything at this age and is at the point where people hide their affiliations because the rep is that bad.

It definitely informed where we went next!


DP. Chevy members are at the center of so many complaints across several schools yet a few schools still consistently appoint the Chevy crowd to their governing board. It is shocking. On a positive note they saved us a lot of money by doing so this year as we are now not donating what we had planned originally.



It's not shocking. Those same parents you mention bring something to the table - they are DC partners in law firms, financial experts or run successful businesses and are good at management. When I am asked to serve on school boards, it's because I bring special expertise that no one else has. It has nothing to do with a country club membership.


You sound naive. This is DC. You don’t think people with this experience are a dime a dozen? They aren’t just found in country clubs, not to mention one particular club.


Not naive at all, Ivy educated for college and T1 law school, and have served on boards and local privates and an Ivy. We look for specific talents (law, marketing, accounting, managemebnt, investments, pattern of community involvement and so on) and the willingness to serve in a volunteer capacity (in my case for five years, each stint). Same as the thoughtful PP says just above. I don't even know the the clubs my fellow board members belong to. But, I can tell you this, we don't seek out rubes like you who name call on a mommy forum.


You are getting these positions through your connections and not your expertise. I agree with pp - Ivy educated wealthy successful nice people are a dime a dozen in the DC area. I can literally name off 10 off of the top of my head. They would all be wonderful board members but yet they never get asked. They do not rub elbows at the right places. Shame for schools and other boards because these people would be wonderful assets.


Not PP but you want the people who rub elbows not the ones that do not. Those personal connections are important to get anything done at a club. We probably have over 100 biglaw partners as members. Not more than 20 do stuff over time as the rest have shown no interest and do not have relationships. Same at schools. It is not what you know -- it is who you know and then what you know.
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Anonymous wrote:We are at SR and I see the Country Club seen as definitely part of the culture of my kids grade.


9th?
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I’m pretty sure you can’t park your car at Columbia CC without a Gonzaga, Visi or SR sticker on your car.
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