No teacher yet for my child’s class…

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

For the final time:
It isn’t “months off”. It’s unpaid. We are 10-month employees. And if you love this perk, explain why you haven’t switched to teaching? (Then you, too, can get a 2nd job for those months like many of us do.)

Most of us don’t make it to retirement because of burnout, so we don’t see those glorious pensions you’re probably thinking of.

And time off? If I’m sick, I have to spend 2 hours making sub plans, just to spend 3 hours grading them. So a day off work actually costs me 5 hours. And I’m not even guaranteed a sub.

Poor you! Wah!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is very common. I am a middle school teacher. We are down 20 teachers out of 60 teachers. It is horrific. The ones that they did hire, just recently, quit. They said it was not what they imagined, too stressful, etc. I too will be leaving at the end of the year. However, if I find something sooner, I have no problem leaving the school, students and families. F all of them

Look at this teacher above who says f the students. Where’s the poster who said we need to be better to teachers?

The teacher is acting this way because everyone treats teachers so poorly. How are you not able to see this? I am a former teacher that quit very early on in my career. I love kids, but I hated some of the parents (a few bad apples ruin the bunch and the money isn’t worth it.) I send my kid to an expensive private where teachers are respected. I have schadenfreude seeing your post. Reap what you sow.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is very common. I am a middle school teacher. We are down 20 teachers out of 60 teachers. It is horrific. The ones that they did hire, just recently, quit. They said it was not what they imagined, too stressful, etc. I too will be leaving at the end of the year. However, if I find something sooner, I have no problem leaving the school, students and families. F all of them

Look at this teacher above who says f the students. Where’s the poster who said we need to be better to teachers?

The teacher is acting this way because everyone treats teachers so poorly. How are you not able to see this? I am a former teacher that quit very early on in my career. I love kids, but I hated some of the parents (a few bad apples ruin the bunch and the money isn’t worth it.) I send my kid to an expensive private where teachers are respected. I have schadenfreude seeing your post. Reap what you sow.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

For the final time:
It isn’t “months off”. It’s unpaid. We are 10-month employees. And if you love this perk, explain why you haven’t switched to teaching? (Then you, too, can get a 2nd job for those months like many of us do.)

Most of us don’t make it to retirement because of burnout, so we don’t see those glorious pensions you’re probably thinking of.

And time off? If I’m sick, I have to spend 2 hours making sub plans, just to spend 3 hours grading them. So a day off work actually costs me 5 hours. And I’m not even guaranteed a sub.

Poor you! Wah!

NP. Keep it up! The only teachers that will stay in public will be the people that don’t give an F. In fact, I’m sure it’s already happening. I love this for you and your poorly educated kids!

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

Please tell us all about the perks teachers get. But now I understand why you are so bitter though. Everyone hates insurance people, especially insurance adjusters. You are right on brand with your sparkling personality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is very common. I am a middle school teacher. We are down 20 teachers out of 60 teachers. It is horrific. The ones that they did hire, just recently, quit. They said it was not what they imagined, too stressful, etc. I too will be leaving at the end of the year. However, if I find something sooner, I have no problem leaving the school, students and families. F all of them

Look at this teacher above who says f the students. Where’s the poster who said we need to be better to teachers?

The teacher is acting this way because everyone treats teachers so poorly. How are you not able to see this? I am a former teacher that quit very early on in my career. I love kids, but I hated some of the parents (a few bad apples ruin the bunch and the money isn’t worth it.) I send my kid to an expensive private where teachers are respected. I have schadenfreude seeing your post. Reap what you sow.

What jews experienced in ww2 is not to be exploited with your trying to compare it to teacher dramatics.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

For the final time:
It isn’t “months off”. It’s unpaid. We are 10-month employees. And if you love this perk, explain why you haven’t switched to teaching? (Then you, too, can get a 2nd job for those months like many of us do.)

Most of us don’t make it to retirement because of burnout, so we don’t see those glorious pensions you’re probably thinking of.

And time off? If I’m sick, I have to spend 2 hours making sub plans, just to spend 3 hours grading them. So a day off work actually costs me 5 hours. And I’m not even guaranteed a sub.

The amount of time you complain is outstanding.
Why should you get paid for not working those months? I know plenty of teachers who are working until retirement including a good friend, my child’s tutor, and family member; you simply cant take working.

Fine. I shouldn’t get paid if I am not working. Then can I get paid for when I AM working?

I spend 2-3 full weeks each summer revamping lessons and writing college recommendation letters. Should I get paid for that?

I work 8-10 hours each Saturday. Should I get overtime for that?

So here’s where you are messing up:
You can be rude and disrespectful. That’s okay. I’m used to it. But what does it get YOU other than a brief “ha, I told HER” feeling? I’ll just be another amazing teacher out the door when we’re here on DCUM bemoaning the fact our schools can’t keep strong teachers.

Because when all the insults are out, the truth remains: teachers are fleeing the classroom, and we all lose.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

Please tell us all about the perks teachers get. But now I understand why you are so bitter though. Everyone hates insurance people, especially insurance adjusters. You are right on brand with your sparkling personality.

Things teachers say.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

For the final time:
It isn’t “months off”. It’s unpaid. We are 10-month employees. And if you love this perk, explain why you haven’t switched to teaching? (Then you, too, can get a 2nd job for those months like many of us do.)

Most of us don’t make it to retirement because of burnout, so we don’t see those glorious pensions you’re probably thinking of.

And time off? If I’m sick, I have to spend 2 hours making sub plans, just to spend 3 hours grading them. So a day off work actually costs me 5 hours. And I’m not even guaranteed a sub.

The amount of time you complain is outstanding.
Why should you get paid for not working those months? I know plenty of teachers who are working until retirement including a good friend, my child’s tutor, and family member; you simply cant take working.

Fine. I shouldn’t get paid if I am not working. Then can I get paid for when I AM working?

I spend 2-3 full weeks each summer revamping lessons and writing college recommendation letters. Should I get paid for that?

I work 8-10 hours each Saturday. Should I get overtime for that?

So here’s where you are messing up:
You can be rude and disrespectful. That’s okay. I’m used to it. But what does it get YOU other than a brief “ha, I told HER” feeling? I’ll just be another amazing teacher out the door when we’re here on DCUM bemoaning the fact our schools can’t keep strong teachers.

Because when all the insults are out, the truth remains: teachers are fleeing the classroom, and we all lose.

Now you want to get paid extra for doing your job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

Please tell us all about the perks teachers get. But now I understand why you are so bitter though. Everyone hates insurance people, especially insurance adjusters. You are right on brand with your sparkling personality.

You don’t know what perks you get? You aren’t a teacher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

Please tell us all about the perks teachers get. But now I understand why you are so bitter though. Everyone hates insurance people, especially insurance adjusters. You are right on brand with your sparkling personality.

Pot, meet kettle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

For the final time:
It isn’t “months off”. It’s unpaid. We are 10-month employees. And if you love this perk, explain why you haven’t switched to teaching? (Then you, too, can get a 2nd job for those months like many of us do.)

Most of us don’t make it to retirement because of burnout, so we don’t see those glorious pensions you’re probably thinking of.

And time off? If I’m sick, I have to spend 2 hours making sub plans, just to spend 3 hours grading them. So a day off work actually costs me 5 hours. And I’m not even guaranteed a sub.

The amount of time you complain is outstanding.
Why should you get paid for not working those months? I know plenty of teachers who are working until retirement including a good friend, my child’s tutor, and family member; you simply cant take working.

Fine. I shouldn’t get paid if I am not working. Then can I get paid for when I AM working?

I spend 2-3 full weeks each summer revamping lessons and writing college recommendation letters. Should I get paid for that?

I work 8-10 hours each Saturday. Should I get overtime for that?

So here’s where you are messing up:
You can be rude and disrespectful. That’s okay. I’m used to it. But what does it get YOU other than a brief “ha, I told HER” feeling? I’ll just be another amazing teacher out the door when we’re here on DCUM bemoaning the fact our schools can’t keep strong teachers.

Because when all the insults are out, the truth remains: teachers are fleeing the classroom, and we all lose.

Now you want to get paid extra for doing your job.

Way to miss the point, but I suspect you aren’t really trying to get it.

But I’ll play along. No, some of it isn’t my job. I actually don’t have to write a single recommendation letter. It isn’t in my contract, yet it takes me over 40 unpaid hours of work each year.

And I’m contracted for 40 hours a week, yet I work 65. So that extra 25 is also a gift to the school since I’m giving a far better product than what they pay for.

So try again. Lazy attempt.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

For the final time:
It isn’t “months off”. It’s unpaid. We are 10-month employees. And if you love this perk, explain why you haven’t switched to teaching? (Then you, too, can get a 2nd job for those months like many of us do.)

Most of us don’t make it to retirement because of burnout, so we don’t see those glorious pensions you’re probably thinking of.

And time off? If I’m sick, I have to spend 2 hours making sub plans, just to spend 3 hours grading them. So a day off work actually costs me 5 hours. And I’m not even guaranteed a sub.

The amount of time you complain is outstanding.
Why should you get paid for not working those months? I know plenty of teachers who are working until retirement including a good friend, my child’s tutor, and family member; you simply cant take working.

Fine. I shouldn’t get paid if I am not working. Then can I get paid for when I AM working?

I spend 2-3 full weeks each summer revamping lessons and writing college recommendation letters. Should I get paid for that?

I work 8-10 hours each Saturday. Should I get overtime for that?

So here’s where you are messing up:
You can be rude and disrespectful. That’s okay. I’m used to it. But what does it get YOU other than a brief “ha, I told HER” feeling? I’ll just be another amazing teacher out the door when we’re here on DCUM bemoaning the fact our schools can’t keep strong teachers.

Because when all the insults are out, the truth remains: teachers are fleeing the classroom, and we all lose.

Now you want to get paid extra for doing your job.

Way to miss the point, but I suspect you aren’t really trying to get it.

But I’ll play along. No, some of it isn’t my job. I actually don’t have to write a single recommendation letter. It isn’t in my contract, yet it takes me over 40 unpaid hours of work each year.

And I’m contracted for 40 hours a week, yet I work 65. So that extra 25 is also a gift to the school since I’m giving a far better product than what they pay for.

So try again. Lazy attempt.

Woe is me!

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Anonymous wrote:This is very common. I am a middle school teacher. We are down 20 teachers out of 60 teachers. It is horrific. The ones that they did hire, just recently, quit. They said it was not what they imagined, too stressful, etc. I too will be leaving at the end of the year. However, if I find something sooner, I have no problem leaving the school, students and families. F all of them

Been there. Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids have had amazing teachers who tend to be popular and well supported by parents, and terrible teachers who tend to be unpopular with students and parents. It’s like that at least in my kids’ schools. I’ve learned to be ready to jump in to supplement and—in extreme circumstances—unenroll them.

Mcps teacher pay seems generous the longer you work, so not feeling too sorry for them in that respect.

Is it still good pay if they are working 65 hours a week? With few breaks during the school day? And little flexibility when it comes to time off?

“Generous” is quite a word to use.

Teachers get more time off than the traditional workforce. Everyone knows this, fool.

Me:
65 hours a week x 40 weeks = 2600 hours

My “traditional workforce” DH:
40 hours a week x 50 weeks = 2000 hours

I’m not sure how math works for you, but my “foolish” math shows me working far more than my DH.

What I know, foolish as I am, is that my full year of work is compacted into 10 packed months with limited flexibility.

But you are so much wiser than me, so I guess math works differently for you.

You aren’t working 65 hours per week and certainly not regularly, lying liar.

I know it’s easier to degrade me when you think I’m lazy.

I grade essays. Stacks of them. Since I haven’t figured out magic yet, I actually have to read and comment on each one.

So, figuring 50 essays at 15 minutes each, that’s 12.5 hours of grading for that assignment alone. And I have 90 additional students turning in paragraphs for an additional 7.5 hours of grading. So that’s 20 hours of grading. I also have to plan, meet with students, email parents, attend grade level meetings, and occasionally come up for air.

And I repeat this cycle every 2-3 weeks.

So please don’t tell me about my job. If you haven’t taught, you simply don’t know. You. Don’t. Know.

And?
These aren’t outside of a teacher’s responsibility.
I have to read legal documents, edit, file, re-edit often, file again. This cycle is repeated daily. Meet with clients, attend meetings, plan, travel, and occasionally come up for air.
You are not special.

And...you make how much? Riiiiggght.
-DP who is not a teacher.

I’m an insurance adjuster and I don’t have the perks that a teacher gets while they are working or after they get when they can retire after so many years. Nor do I have months off or holidays.

For the final time:
It isn’t “months off”. It’s unpaid. We are 10-month employees. And if you love this perk, explain why you haven’t switched to teaching? (Then you, too, can get a 2nd job for those months like many of us do.)

Most of us don’t make it to retirement because of burnout, so we don’t see those glorious pensions you’re probably thinking of.

And time off? If I’m sick, I have to spend 2 hours making sub plans, just to spend 3 hours grading them. So a day off work actually costs me 5 hours. And I’m not even guaranteed a sub.

The amount of time you complain is outstanding.
Why should you get paid for not working those months? I know plenty of teachers who are working until retirement including a good friend, my child’s tutor, and family member; you simply cant take working.

Fine. I shouldn’t get paid if I am not working. Then can I get paid for when I AM working?

I spend 2-3 full weeks each summer revamping lessons and writing college recommendation letters. Should I get paid for that?

I work 8-10 hours each Saturday. Should I get overtime for that?

So here’s where you are messing up:
You can be rude and disrespectful. That’s okay. I’m used to it. But what does it get YOU other than a brief “ha, I told HER” feeling? I’ll just be another amazing teacher out the door when we’re here on DCUM bemoaning the fact our schools can’t keep strong teachers.

Because when all the insults are out, the truth remains: teachers are fleeing the classroom, and we all lose.

Now you want to get paid extra for doing your job.

Way to miss the point, but I suspect you aren’t really trying to get it.

But I’ll play along. No, some of it isn’t my job. I actually don’t have to write a single recommendation letter. It isn’t in my contract, yet it takes me over 40 unpaid hours of work each year.

And I’m contracted for 40 hours a week, yet I work 65. So that extra 25 is also a gift to the school since I’m giving a far better product than what they pay for.

So try again. Lazy attempt.

If you put as much effort into school as you do with your whining and complaining and bean counting, you would be one outstanding teacher.