Trump says "they're not humans; they're not humans; they're animals"

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

In fact, far more native-born Americans do horrible things.

Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a 60% per capita lower rate than natural born Americans. Illegal immigrants are model citizens compared to Americans, and that is an indisputable, undeniable fact. Demonizing them as "criminals" is racism, pure and simple.

What year is that stat from?

Here's a fun realization. If you didn't have 25 million illegal immigrants, you would have a 0% per capita lower rate than natural born americans. Wait, then you could devote more resources to those terrible natural born americans. Illegal immigration is a drain on every resource in the country.

Here's another fun realization: our economy does somewhat rely on those illegal immigrants who work the dirty jobs, those industries that lean heavily R (farms, janitorial work, lawn care).

So, if you want to get rid of illegal immigration, a wall won't cut it because a lot of them just get work visas then over stay their visa working in those industries. You want to kick them all out? You gotta kill the demand in those industries. How to do that. Make the penalty so high that it becomes not worth it. Right now, the penalty is tiny in comparison to the profit those businesses (many owned by Rs) can make by hiring cheap labor.

But, Rs will never do this because those business owners are their voters and donors.

I don't hear Trump/Vance supporting higher penalties, do you? Of course not, because Trump's hotels even use those cheap illegal immigrant labor, as do many of his friends' businesses.

So, instead, Vance throws the boogey man out about legal Haitians living here, and like the cult members MAGA are, they lap it up.

A border wall will do nothing about the visa overstayers.

Unfortunately, that is far too complicated for the MAGA simpletons to comprehend. That’s why the Trump had to keep his propaganda very simple: “build a wall”

You mean like, “Build Back Better”? Simple indeed.

Or “Defund the Police” and “Vote Blue No Matter Who.” Democrats are such simpletons.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

In fact, far more native-born Americans do horrible things.

Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a 60% per capita lower rate than natural born Americans. Illegal immigrants are model citizens compared to Americans, and that is an indisputable, undeniable fact. Demonizing them as "criminals" is racism, pure and simple.

What year is that stat from?

Here's a fun realization. If you didn't have 25 million illegal immigrants, you would have a 0% per capita lower rate than natural born americans. Wait, then you could devote more resources to those terrible natural born americans. Illegal immigration is a drain on every resource in the country.

Here's another fun realization: our economy does somewhat rely on those illegal immigrants who work the dirty jobs, those industries that lean heavily R (farms, janitorial work, lawn care).

So, if you want to get rid of illegal immigration, a wall won't cut it because a lot of them just get work visas then over stay their visa working in those industries. You want to kick them all out? You gotta kill the demand in those industries. How to do that. Make the penalty so high that it becomes not worth it. Right now, the penalty is tiny in comparison to the profit those businesses (many owned by Rs) can make by hiring cheap labor.

But, Rs will never do this because those business owners are their voters and donors.

I don't hear Trump/Vance supporting higher penalties, do you? Of course not, because Trump's hotels even use those cheap illegal immigrant labor, as do many of his friends' businesses.

So, instead, Vance throws the boogey man out about legal Haitians living here, and like the cult members MAGA are, they lap it up.

A border wall will do nothing about the visa overstayers.

Exactly. To say that Trump is against illegal immigration is to say that he is against grabbing pu$$ies, which is simply not true.

Except that Trump/Vance want to mandate EVerify. Does Harris?

Has Harris ever used illegal immigrants to make money? Why didn't Trump fix this when he was president? Why did all the Hatians arrive in Ohio under Trump?

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s call it what it is: racist rhetoric

I had a naturalized citizen ask me the other day ask why Trump was as popular as he still is.

The answer is easy, a large portion of our population are low information, racists and unfortunately in this country you are still allowed to vote.

This.
It has been really sad to understand this about my compatriots. I thought we were better than this.

Discovering this back in 2016 really shook me to the core. It's depressing to know that we have so many willfully ignorant racists/misogynists living and breathing among us.

What “shakes me to my core” is knowing there are actually Americans who approve of illegal immigration. Quite astounding.

I approve of treating refugees like humans and not calling them animals.

How about people who rape and murder? You can call them whatever you want. They’re animals to me.

So, just to be clear here...you're calling the former president Trump an animal?

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All the spin in the world doesn’t change what Trump said.

It’s like his stunt in Arlington National Cemetery. He did the immoral thing. He did not behave as a POTUS.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s call it what it is: racist rhetoric

I had a naturalized citizen ask me the other day ask why Trump was as popular as he still is.

The answer is easy, a large portion of our population are low information, racists and unfortunately in this country you are still allowed to vote.

This.
It has been really sad to understand this about my compatriots. I thought we were better than this.

Discovering this back in 2016 really shook me to the core. It's depressing to know that we have so many willfully ignorant racists/misogynists living and breathing among us.

What “shakes me to my core” is knowing there are actually Americans who approve of illegal immigration. Quite astounding.

I approve of treating refugees like humans and not calling them animals.

How about people who rape and murder? You can call them whatever you want. They’re animals to me.

So, just to be clear here...you're calling the former president Trump an animal?

doh 🤭

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

In fact, far more native-born Americans do horrible things.

Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a 60% per capita lower rate than natural born Americans. Illegal immigrants are model citizens compared to Americans, and that is an indisputable, undeniable fact. Demonizing them as "criminals" is racism, pure and simple.

What year is that stat from?

Here's a fun realization. If you didn't have 25 million illegal immigrants, you would have a 0% per capita lower rate than natural born americans. Wait, then you could devote more resources to those terrible natural born americans. Illegal immigration is a drain on every resource in the country.

Here's another fun realization: our economy does somewhat rely on those illegal immigrants who work the dirty jobs, those industries that lean heavily R (farms, janitorial work, lawn care).

So, if you want to get rid of illegal immigration, a wall won't cut it because a lot of them just get work visas then over stay their visa working in those industries. You want to kick them all out? You gotta kill the demand in those industries. How to do that. Make the penalty so high that it becomes not worth it. Right now, the penalty is tiny in comparison to the profit those businesses (many owned by Rs) can make by hiring cheap labor.

But, Rs will never do this because those business owners are their voters and donors.

I don't hear Trump/Vance supporting higher penalties, do you? Of course not, because Trump's hotels even use those cheap illegal immigrant labor, as do many of his friends' businesses.

So, instead, Vance throws the boogey man out about legal Haitians living here, and like the cult members MAGA are, they lap it up.

A border wall will do nothing about the visa overstayers.

Unfortunately, that is far too complicated for the MAGA simpletons to comprehend. That’s why the Trump had to keep his propaganda very simple: “build a wall”

You mean like, “Build Back Better”? Simple indeed.

The MAGAs actually thought he was going to build a wall.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s call it what it is: racist rhetoric

I had a naturalized citizen ask me the other day ask why Trump was as popular as he still is.

The answer is easy, a large portion of our population are low information, racists and unfortunately in this country you are still allowed to vote.

Just say you’re in favor of illegal immigration. Stop wasting everyone’s time and just admit it.

dp... one can be against illegal immigration AND not consider all illegal immigrants "not humans, and animals".

But, it does require some humanity. I get why you, Trump and the rest of MAGA don't get that.

And there you go again. He was referring to illegal immigrants who are violent criminals. But you know that. It just garners more outrage to pretend he was referring to ALL illegal immigrants.

In stump speeches, Trump frequently claims that immigrants crossing the border with Mexico illegally have escaped from prisons and asylums in their home countries and are fueling violent crime in the United States.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-expected-highlight-murder-michigan-woman-immigration-speech-2024-04-02/

Most have not escaped prisons or asylums, but he's painting them with that broad brush. As such, he's calling illegal immigrants animals.

Ironic given how he was convicted of committing rape. I agree, Trump is an animal.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

In fact, far more native-born Americans do horrible things.

Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a 60% per capita lower rate than natural born Americans. Illegal immigrants are model citizens compared to Americans, and that is an indisputable, undeniable fact. Demonizing them as "criminals" is racism, pure and simple.

What year is that stat from?

Here's a fun realization. If you didn't have 25 million illegal immigrants, you would have a 0% per capita lower rate than natural born americans. Wait, then you could devote more resources to those terrible natural born americans. Illegal immigration is a drain on every resource in the country.

Here's another fun realization: our economy does somewhat rely on those illegal immigrants who work the dirty jobs, those industries that lean heavily R (farms, janitorial work, lawn care).

So, if you want to get rid of illegal immigration, a wall won't cut it because a lot of them just get work visas then over stay their visa working in those industries. You want to kick them all out? You gotta kill the demand in those industries. How to do that. Make the penalty so high that it becomes not worth it. Right now, the penalty is tiny in comparison to the profit those businesses (many owned by Rs) can make by hiring cheap labor.

But, Rs will never do this because those business owners are their voters and donors.

I don't hear Trump/Vance supporting higher penalties, do you? Of course not, because Trump's hotels even use those cheap illegal immigrant labor, as do many of his friends' businesses.

So, instead, Vance throws the boogey man out about legal Haitians living here, and like the cult members MAGA are, they lap it up.

A border wall will do nothing about the visa overstayers.

Exactly. To say that Trump is against illegal immigration is to say that he is against grabbing pu$$ies, which is simply not true.

Except that Trump/Vance want to mandate EVerify. Does Harris?

Has Harris ever used illegal immigrants to make money? Why didn't Trump fix this when he was president? Why did all the Hatians arrive in Ohio under Trump?

Huh? You seem confused.

Shortly after President Joe Biden took office, he moved to reinstate TPS for Haiti, sharply increasing the number of Haitians eligible to apply for the status.

This past June, Biden expanded protections for Haitians again, ruling that the more than 300,000 migrants from the country who arrived in the U.S. after November 2022 were eligible to apply for TPS while allowing more than 200,000 Haitians whose protections were expiring to apply for an 18-month extension.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/haitian-population-springfield-ohio/story?id=113731377

Remember this?


https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com%2Fimage%2Fupload%2Ft_fit-1500w%2Cf_auto%2Cq_auto%3Abest%2Frockcms%2F2024-06%2F240628-haiti-migrants-border-al-1023-85cd1a.jpg&tbnid=vN9x2X9zuQ8KeM&vet=1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Finvestigations%2Fbiden-admin-gives-protected-status-309000-haitians-rcna159438&docid=5ksCkUUFB6-ncM&w=1500&h=971&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim%2Fm4%2F3&kgs=510b02f26bb90cda&shem=abme%2Ctrie

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

In fact, far more native-born Americans do horrible things.

Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a 60% per capita lower rate than natural born Americans. Illegal immigrants are model citizens compared to Americans, and that is an indisputable, undeniable fact. Demonizing them as "criminals" is racism, pure and simple.

What year is that stat from?

Here's a fun realization. If you didn't have 25 million illegal immigrants, you would have a 0% per capita lower rate than natural born americans. Wait, then you could devote more resources to those terrible natural born americans. Illegal immigration is a drain on every resource in the country.

Here's another fun realization: our economy does somewhat rely on those illegal immigrants who work the dirty jobs, those industries that lean heavily R (farms, janitorial work, lawn care).

So, if you want to get rid of illegal immigration, a wall won't cut it because a lot of them just get work visas then over stay their visa working in those industries. You want to kick them all out? You gotta kill the demand in those industries. How to do that. Make the penalty so high that it becomes not worth it. Right now, the penalty is tiny in comparison to the profit those businesses (many owned by Rs) can make by hiring cheap labor.

But, Rs will never do this because those business owners are their voters and donors.

I don't hear Trump/Vance supporting higher penalties, do you? Of course not, because Trump's hotels even use those cheap illegal immigrant labor, as do many of his friends' businesses.

So, instead, Vance throws the boogey man out about legal Haitians living here, and like the cult members MAGA are, they lap it up.

A border wall will do nothing about the visa overstayers.

Unfortunately, that is far too complicated for the MAGA simpletons to comprehend. That’s why the Trump had to keep his propaganda very simple: “build a wall”

You mean like, “Build Back Better”? Simple indeed.

Or “Defund the Police” and “Vote Blue No Matter Who.” Democrats are such simpletons.

More projection.

How many MAGAs understand who is actually hiring the undocumented workers and incentivizing them to come in the first place? Who is picking them up by the truckload at the border and bringing them up to their plants?

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s call it what it is: racist rhetoric

I had a naturalized citizen ask me the other day ask why Trump was as popular as he still is.

The answer is easy, a large portion of our population are low information, racists and unfortunately in this country you are still allowed to vote.

This.
It has been really sad to understand this about my compatriots. I thought we were better than this.

Discovering this back in 2016 really shook me to the core. It's depressing to know that we have so many willfully ignorant racists/misogynists living and breathing among us.

What “shakes me to my core” is knowing there are actually Americans who approve of illegal immigration. Quite astounding.

I approve of treating refugees like humans and not calling them animals.

How about people who rape and murder? You can call them whatever you want. They’re animals to me.

So, just to be clear here...you're calling the former president Trump an animal?

Sure. Whatever makes you happy.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

In fact, far more native-born Americans do horrible things.

Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a 60% per capita lower rate than natural born Americans. Illegal immigrants are model citizens compared to Americans, and that is an indisputable, undeniable fact. Demonizing them as "criminals" is racism, pure and simple.

What year is that stat from?

Here's a fun realization. If you didn't have 25 million illegal immigrants, you would have a 0% per capita lower rate than natural born americans. Wait, then you could devote more resources to those terrible natural born americans. Illegal immigration is a drain on every resource in the country.

Here's another fun realization: our economy does somewhat rely on those illegal immigrants who work the dirty jobs, those industries that lean heavily R (farms, janitorial work, lawn care).

So, if you want to get rid of illegal immigration, a wall won't cut it because a lot of them just get work visas then over stay their visa working in those industries. You want to kick them all out? You gotta kill the demand in those industries. How to do that. Make the penalty so high that it becomes not worth it. Right now, the penalty is tiny in comparison to the profit those businesses (many owned by Rs) can make by hiring cheap labor.

But, Rs will never do this because those business owners are their voters and donors.

I don't hear Trump/Vance supporting higher penalties, do you? Of course not, because Trump's hotels even use those cheap illegal immigrant labor, as do many of his friends' businesses.

So, instead, Vance throws the boogey man out about legal Haitians living here, and like the cult members MAGA are, they lap it up.

A border wall will do nothing about the visa overstayers.

Unfortunately, that is far too complicated for the MAGA simpletons to comprehend. That’s why the Trump had to keep his propaganda very simple: “build a wall”

You mean like, “Build Back Better”? Simple indeed.

The MAGAs actually thought he was going to build a wall.

And LWNJs actually thought we were going to defund our police. *shrug*

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

In fact, far more native-born Americans do horrible things.

Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a 60% per capita lower rate than natural born Americans. Illegal immigrants are model citizens compared to Americans, and that is an indisputable, undeniable fact. Demonizing them as "criminals" is racism, pure and simple.

What year is that stat from?

Here's a fun realization. If you didn't have 25 million illegal immigrants, you would have a 0% per capita lower rate than natural born americans. Wait, then you could devote more resources to those terrible natural born americans. Illegal immigration is a drain on every resource in the country.

Here's another fun realization: our economy does somewhat rely on those illegal immigrants who work the dirty jobs, those industries that lean heavily R (farms, janitorial work, lawn care).

So, if you want to get rid of illegal immigration, a wall won't cut it because a lot of them just get work visas then over stay their visa working in those industries. You want to kick them all out? You gotta kill the demand in those industries. How to do that. Make the penalty so high that it becomes not worth it. Right now, the penalty is tiny in comparison to the profit those businesses (many owned by Rs) can make by hiring cheap labor.

But, Rs will never do this because those business owners are their voters and donors.

I don't hear Trump/Vance supporting higher penalties, do you? Of course not, because Trump's hotels even use those cheap illegal immigrant labor, as do many of his friends' businesses.

So, instead, Vance throws the boogey man out about legal Haitians living here, and like the cult members MAGA are, they lap it up.

A border wall will do nothing about the visa overstayers.

Unfortunately, that is far too complicated for the MAGA simpletons to comprehend. That’s why the Trump had to keep his propaganda very simple: “build a wall”

You mean like, “Build Back Better”? Simple indeed.

The MAGAs actually thought he was going to build a wall.

And LWNJs actually thought we were going to defund our police. *shrug*

right, so neither happened, but MAGA still believe Trump will build the wall and make MX pay for it. Have you noticed that some of the blue cities have increased police funding?

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

In fact, far more native-born Americans do horrible things.

Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a 60% per capita lower rate than natural born Americans. Illegal immigrants are model citizens compared to Americans, and that is an indisputable, undeniable fact. Demonizing them as "criminals" is racism, pure and simple.

What year is that stat from?

Here's a fun realization. If you didn't have 25 million illegal immigrants, you would have a 0% per capita lower rate than natural born americans. Wait, then you could devote more resources to those terrible natural born americans. Illegal immigration is a drain on every resource in the country.

Here's another fun realization: our economy does somewhat rely on those illegal immigrants who work the dirty jobs, those industries that lean heavily R (farms, janitorial work, lawn care).

So, if you want to get rid of illegal immigration, a wall won't cut it because a lot of them just get work visas then over stay their visa working in those industries. You want to kick them all out? You gotta kill the demand in those industries. How to do that. Make the penalty so high that it becomes not worth it. Right now, the penalty is tiny in comparison to the profit those businesses (many owned by Rs) can make by hiring cheap labor.

But, Rs will never do this because those business owners are their voters and donors.

I don't hear Trump/Vance supporting higher penalties, do you? Of course not, because Trump's hotels even use those cheap illegal immigrant labor, as do many of his friends' businesses.

So, instead, Vance throws the boogey man out about legal Haitians living here, and like the cult members MAGA are, they lap it up.

A border wall will do nothing about the visa overstayers.

Exactly. To say that Trump is against illegal immigration is to say that he is against grabbing pu$$ies, which is simply not true.

Except that Trump/Vance want to mandate EVerify. Does Harris?

Has Harris ever used illegal immigrants to make money? Why didn't Trump fix this when he was president? Why did all the Hatians arrive in Ohio under Trump?

Huh? You seem confused.

Shortly after President Joe Biden took office, he moved to reinstate TPS for Haiti, sharply increasing the number of Haitians eligible to apply for the status.

This past June, Biden expanded protections for Haitians again, ruling that the more than 300,000 migrants from the country who arrived in the U.S. after November 2022 were eligible to apply for TPS while allowing more than 200,000 Haitians whose protections were expiring to apply for an 18-month extension.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/haitian-population-springfield-ohio/story?id=113731377

Remember this?


https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com%2Fimage%2Fupload%2Ft_fit-1500w%2Cf_auto%2Cq_auto%3Abest%2Frockcms%2F2024-06%2F240628-haiti-migrants-border-al-1023-85cd1a.jpg&tbnid=vN9x2X9zuQ8KeM&vet=1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Finvestigations%2Fbiden-admin-gives-protected-status-309000-haitians-rcna159438&docid=5ksCkUUFB6-ncM&w=1500&h=971&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim%2Fm4%2F3&kgs=510b02f26bb90cda&shem=abme%2Ctrie

I'm not for illegal immigration, but that picture is incredibly sad. Imagine how horrible their lives were in their home country to risk their lives fleeing to another country where they don't speak the language, especially with little kids.

One can not support illegal immigration but have compassion for people.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

In fact, far more native-born Americans do horrible things.

Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a 60% per capita lower rate than natural born Americans. Illegal immigrants are model citizens compared to Americans, and that is an indisputable, undeniable fact. Demonizing them as "criminals" is racism, pure and simple.

What year is that stat from?

Here's a fun realization. If you didn't have 25 million illegal immigrants, you would have a 0% per capita lower rate than natural born americans. Wait, then you could devote more resources to those terrible natural born americans. Illegal immigration is a drain on every resource in the country.

Here's another fun realization: our economy does somewhat rely on those illegal immigrants who work the dirty jobs, those industries that lean heavily R (farms, janitorial work, lawn care).

So, if you want to get rid of illegal immigration, a wall won't cut it because a lot of them just get work visas then over stay their visa working in those industries. You want to kick them all out? You gotta kill the demand in those industries. How to do that. Make the penalty so high that it becomes not worth it. Right now, the penalty is tiny in comparison to the profit those businesses (many owned by Rs) can make by hiring cheap labor.

But, Rs will never do this because those business owners are their voters and donors.

I don't hear Trump/Vance supporting higher penalties, do you? Of course not, because Trump's hotels even use those cheap illegal immigrant labor, as do many of his friends' businesses.

So, instead, Vance throws the boogey man out about legal Haitians living here, and like the cult members MAGA are, they lap it up.

A border wall will do nothing about the visa overstayers.

Exactly. To say that Trump is against illegal immigration is to say that he is against grabbing pu$$ies, which is simply not true.

Except that Trump/Vance want to mandate EVerify. Does Harris?

Has Harris ever used illegal immigrants to make money? Why didn't Trump fix this when he was president? Why did all the Hatians arrive in Ohio under Trump?

Huh? You seem confused.

Shortly after President Joe Biden took office, he moved to reinstate TPS for Haiti, sharply increasing the number of Haitians eligible to apply for the status.

This past June, Biden expanded protections for Haitians again, ruling that the more than 300,000 migrants from the country who arrived in the U.S. after November 2022 were eligible to apply for TPS while allowing more than 200,000 Haitians whose protections were expiring to apply for an 18-month extension.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/haitian-population-springfield-ohio/story?id=113731377

Remember this?


https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com%2Fimage%2Fupload%2Ft_fit-1500w%2Cf_auto%2Cq_auto%3Abest%2Frockcms%2F2024-06%2F240628-haiti-migrants-border-al-1023-85cd1a.jpg&tbnid=vN9x2X9zuQ8KeM&vet=1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Finvestigations%2Fbiden-admin-gives-protected-status-309000-haitians-rcna159438&docid=5ksCkUUFB6-ncM&w=1500&h=971&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim%2Fm4%2F3&kgs=510b02f26bb90cda&shem=abme%2Ctrie

I'm not for illegal immigration, but that picture is incredibly sad. Imagine how horrible their lives were in their home country to risk their lives fleeing to another country where they don't speak the language, especially with little kids.

One can not support illegal immigration but have compassion for people.

Most of these Haitians had already settled in South American countries like Chile. They decided to come here when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris offered open borders and TPS.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s call it what it is: racist rhetoric

I had a naturalized citizen ask me the other day ask why Trump was as popular as he still is.

The answer is easy, a large portion of our population are low information, racists and unfortunately in this country you are still allowed to vote.

Just say you’re in favor of illegal immigration. Stop wasting everyone’s time and just admit it.

dp... one can be against illegal immigration AND not consider all illegal immigrants "not humans, and animals".

But, it does require some humanity. I get why you, Trump and the rest of MAGA don't get that.

But he was only talking about violent criminal illegal immigrants.