Trump says "they're not humans; they're not humans; they're animals"

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Anonymous wrote:Pope says "both are against life. He wants to remove immigrants, she wants to kill children.
You have to choose which is the lesser evil."

cite your source.

DP

See quote below. As a former Catholic, the church's fixation on abortion is disgusting. They don't care what the actual consequences on women are of abortion bans. They don't care about women's lives. I think, and excuse my language, that the Pope should stfu.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/pope-...-abortion/index.html

Pope Francis on Friday described the choice US voters must make in the presidential election as one between the “lesser of two evils,” deeming former President Donald Trump’s anti-migrant policies and Vice President Kamala Harris’ support of abortion rights as both being “against life.”

“One must choose the lesser of two evils. Who is the lesser of two evils? That lady or that gentleman? I don’t know,” Francis said during a press conference on the papal plane, referring to Harris and Trump. “Everyone with a conscience should think on this and do it.”

The Pope said "he doesn't know". That's pretty damning for Trump, actually, given the Catholic church's stance on abortion.

An illustrative story. I grew up in a very Catholic family. Had to miss a statewide championship for a HS EC to attend mass on a holy day of obligation. I didn’t want to be confirmed my junior year of HS, and was told I got confirmed or I was being kicked out of the house (so, the Spanish Inquisition brand of Catholicism). I went to college and never went to church again unless I was home for the summer or a holiday, because mass attendance was a condition of coming home. I pretty obviously left the church and never looked back. I now stay in an AirBNB when I visit my parents because a condition of staying with them is my kids and myself attending church and I’m not doing that— especially to my kids.

I had an unplanned ectopic pregnancy with an IUD. After I had already had my two kids, when I had been married ten years. No irresponsibility or extra marital hanky panky. Because of the irregular periods and general adjustment to the IUD, I didn’t know I was pregnant until it ruptured. It was a very touch and go dash to the OR while my DH signed forms at 1 am and was scary as f&&k. And traumatizing for me. Like, flashbacks and PTSD trauma. Almost dying while your kids watch will do that. I obviously lost the tube, which, honestly, was small potatoes considering how close I had come to dying. Also technically an abortion.

We called my sister, the only family nearby, and she refused to come and watch my kids “so I could have an abortion”. When my mother found out, she refused to talk to me for a long time because I’d had an abortion. She said she couldn’t have a relationship with me because it was too painful. Seeing me (and her grandkids) just reminded her that she wouldn’t see any of us in heaven— me because abortion is a mortal sin and her grandkids because I hadn’t had them baptized (although if you are Catholic, you are probably thinking the same thing as I am— that my mom kitchen sink baptized my kids the first moment she was alone with them. Which, whatever, it’s just water. Bigger fish).

And then she talked to her priest who said my abortion didn’t “count”. She called me all excited that there would be no he11 for me. And could not understand that the whole experience had been, for me, hellacious. We now have a very superficial, talk once a month relationship. I just can’t.

The Church is crazy on abortion. Just b@tshit crazy. Now, they have never been anything but misogynistic, racist, and hateful towards LGBTQ, so those issues don’t even factor in for the Pope. But, the poor, the sick, the migrant, the hungry, kids being shot in school? They all take a backseat to abortion, which is one of the few mortal sins— automatic he11 that you can’t pray, confess or atone your way out of. Priests diddling kids? Confess and be forgiven. Abort to save your life? Directly to he11 don’t pass go. It’s just crazy.

I come from a much more liberal and understanding French Catholic family. We call your mother and sister the traditionalists. There aren’t many of them in France.

I’m sorry you had to go through that.

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Anonymous wrote:Pope says "both are against life. He wants to remove immigrants, she wants to kill children.
You have to choose which is the lesser evil."

cite your source.

DP

See quote below. As a former Catholic, the church's fixation on abortion is disgusting. They don't care what the actual consequences on women are of abortion bans. They don't care about women's lives. I think, and excuse my language, that the Pope should stfu.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/pope-...-abortion/index.html

Pope Francis on Friday described the choice US voters must make in the presidential election as one between the “lesser of two evils,” deeming former President Donald Trump’s anti-migrant policies and Vice President Kamala Harris’ support of abortion rights as both being “against life.”

“One must choose the lesser of two evils. Who is the lesser of two evils? That lady or that gentleman? I don’t know,” Francis said during a press conference on the papal plane, referring to Harris and Trump. “Everyone with a conscience should think on this and do it.”

The Pope said "he doesn't know". That's pretty damning for Trump, actually, given the Catholic church's stance on abortion.

He should stay out of politics entirely as he is supposed to. I don't think his statement helps Harris at all. It just gives cover to both sides.

Why is he supposed to stay out of politics?

Churches are exempt from taxes and part of the deal is that they stick to religion and not serve as PACS. Not that stops them.

U.S. churches, individually.

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Trump and Vance face criminal charges over Springfield, OH "migrants eating cats and dog's hoax.

https://l.smartnews.com/p-jAQwV/g1vM0s

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Anonymous wrote:Trump and Vance face criminal charges over Springfield, OH "migrants eating cats and dog's hoax.

https://l.smartnews.com/p-jAQwV/g1vM0s

They plaintiffs won’t win this lawsuit. SCOTUS will invalidate the ruling because there was no direct Incitement of violence.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds like Hitler again, dehumanizing black immigrants. Sounds a lot like how he referred to the "Exonerated Five" when he was advocating for innocent black children to get the death penalty.

Trump is a horrible human and worst president in American history.

And yet some people think he’s fit for POTUS.

Because their hate for others was the only reason anyone could gravitate to Trump in the first place. He knows less than nothing about the founding and history of this nation. He only ever knew how to take advantage of people and laws. He has less than no respect for institutions, decorum and tradition. He's been scummy his whole life, but he hates the same people they hate, and that's all that was ever required of him. He makes people with inferiority complexes feel good about themselves by convincing them they're actually superior, when they clearly are not. And MAGAs are of course, the real victims.

And, shocker, he and the GOP won’t do anything to actually thwart illegal immigration.

They are the ones who are actually hiring undocumented people and drawing them up here.

The suckers fell for it - hook, line, and sinker.

Trump did a lot to stop illegal immigration in his first term. He implemented Migrant Protection Protocol. He signed Safe Third Country agreements with Central American nations. He signed an executive order for their expulsion. The numbers at the border were way lower under Trump than Biden. He will end all of Biden’s open border policies and reinstate his secure border policies. That’s why I’m voting for him.

What happened to the wall?
BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds like Hitler again, dehumanizing black immigrants. Sounds a lot like how he referred to the "Exonerated Five" when he was advocating for innocent black children to get the death penalty.

Trump is a horrible human and worst president in American history.

And yet some people think he’s fit for POTUS.

Because their hate for others was the only reason anyone could gravitate to Trump in the first place. He knows less than nothing about the founding and history of this nation. He only ever knew how to take advantage of people and laws. He has less than no respect for institutions, decorum and tradition. He's been scummy his whole life, but he hates the same people they hate, and that's all that was ever required of him. He makes people with inferiority complexes feel good about themselves by convincing them they're actually superior, when they clearly are not. And MAGAs are of course, the real victims.

And, shocker, he and the GOP won’t do anything to actually thwart illegal immigration.

They are the ones who are actually hiring undocumented people and drawing them up here.

The suckers fell for it - hook, line, and sinker.

Trump did a lot to stop illegal immigration in his first term. He implemented Migrant Protection Protocol. He signed Safe Third Country agreements with Central American nations. He signed an executive order for their expulsion. The numbers at the border were way lower under Trump than Biden. He will end all of Biden’s open border policies and reinstate his secure border policies. That’s why I’m voting for him.

What happened to the wall?
BUILD THE WALL! BUILD THE WALL!

DP. See, this is why many of us don't bother trying to converse with people like you. The PP just provided his/her reasons for voting for him (which I agree with, btw), and all you can come up with is a stupid retort. I really don't know why people waste their energy on you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump and Vance face criminal charges over Springfield, OH "migrants eating cats and dog's hoax.

https://l.smartnews.com/p-jAQwV/g1vM0s

Good. Hold them accountable.

[Anonymous]

Gunfire hits Spirit Airlines flight arriving in Port-au-Prince; plane lands in Dominican Republic By Jacqueline Charles Updated November 11, 2024 2:07 PM

Crew wounded.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world...4.html#storylink=cpy

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

This

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He said something similar in 2016 "rapists and murderers"... didn't stop MAGA from voting for him. NBD.

"I could shoot someone on 5th ave and not lose support."

He knows his base.

Immigrants who vote for Trump of course think that he's not talking about them. But, what they ignore is that the MAGA base won't distinguish between legal and illegal when they yell at you to "go back to your country", or worse, physically attack you. It's not like they first ask for your papers before they start attacking.

- immigrant, former R, now Independent

He IS his base. if his Daddy T didn't hand him down any fortune, he would be exactly where many of his uneducated supporters are.

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Anonymous wrote:Gunfire hits Spirit Airlines flight arriving in Port-au-Prince; plane lands in Dominican Republic By Jacqueline Charles Updated November 11, 2024 2:07 PM

Crew wounded.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world...4.html#storylink=cpy

One flight attendant was grazed. They should have left them in DR so they could travel back to Haiti by land.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gunfire hits Spirit Airlines flight arriving in Port-au-Prince; plane lands in Dominican Republic By Jacqueline Charles Updated November 11, 2024 2:07 PM

Crew wounded.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world...4.html#storylink=cpy

Have you ever flown on Spirit? I might be tempted to take a few shots myself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of things to criticize Trump for, but him being against horrible criminals who do horrible things is not one of them

It's the SELECTIVE focus on migrants who commit crimes that's the problem. Lots of native-born Americans do horrible things and he doesn't talk about them.

The number of immigrants committing crimes here should be zero. We already have enough criminals. No need to import more. He is right to focus on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pope says "both are against life. He wants to remove immigrants, she wants to kill children.
You have to choose which is the lesser evil."

cite your source.

DP

See quote below. As a former Catholic, the church's fixation on abortion is disgusting. They don't care what the actual consequences on women are of abortion bans. They don't care about women's lives. I think, and excuse my language, that the Pope should stfu.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/pope-...-abortion/index.html

Pope Francis on Friday described the choice US voters must make in the presidential election as one between the “lesser of two evils,” deeming former President Donald Trump’s anti-migrant policies and Vice President Kamala Harris’ support of abortion rights as both being “against life.”

“One must choose the lesser of two evils. Who is the lesser of two evils? That lady or that gentleman? I don’t know,” Francis said during a press conference on the papal plane, referring to Harris and Trump. “Everyone with a conscience should think on this and do it.”

The Pope said "he doesn't know". That's pretty damning for Trump, actually, given the Catholic church's stance on abortion.

An illustrative story. I grew up in a very Catholic family. Had to miss a statewide championship for a HS EC to attend mass on a holy day of obligation. I didn’t want to be confirmed my junior year of HS, and was told I got confirmed or I was being kicked out of the house (so, the Spanish Inquisition brand of Catholicism). I went to college and never went to church again unless I was home for the summer or a holiday, because mass attendance was a condition of coming home. I pretty obviously left the church and never looked back. I now stay in an AirBNB when I visit my parents because a condition of staying with them is my kids and myself attending church and I’m not doing that— especially to my kids.

I had an unplanned ectopic pregnancy with an IUD. After I had already had my two kids, when I had been married ten years. No irresponsibility or extra marital hanky panky. Because of the irregular periods and general adjustment to the IUD, I didn’t know I was pregnant until it ruptured. It was a very touch and go dash to the OR while my DH signed forms at 1 am and was scary as f&&k. And traumatizing for me. Like, flashbacks and PTSD trauma. Almost dying while your kids watch will do that. I obviously lost the tube, which, honestly, was small potatoes considering how close I had come to dying. Also technically an abortion.

We called my sister, the only family nearby, and she refused to come and watch my kids “so I could have an abortion”. When my mother found out, she refused to talk to me for a long time because I’d had an abortion. She said she couldn’t have a relationship with me because it was too painful. Seeing me (and her grandkids) just reminded her that she wouldn’t see any of us in heaven— me because abortion is a mortal sin and her grandkids because I hadn’t had them baptized (although if you are Catholic, you are probably thinking the same thing as I am— that my mom kitchen sink baptized my kids the first moment she was alone with them. Which, whatever, it’s just water. Bigger fish).

And then she talked to her priest who said my abortion didn’t “count”. She called me all excited that there would be no he11 for me. And could not understand that the whole experience had been, for me, hellacious. We now have a very superficial, talk once a month relationship. I just can’t.

The Church is crazy on abortion. Just b@tshit crazy. Now, they have never been anything but misogynistic, racist, and hateful towards LGBTQ, so those issues don’t even factor in for the Pope. But, the poor, the sick, the migrant, the hungry, kids being shot in school? They all take a backseat to abortion, which is one of the few mortal sins— automatic he11 that you can’t pray, confess or atone your way out of. Priests diddling kids? Confess and be forgiven. Abort to save your life? Directly to he11 don’t pass go. It’s just crazy.

WTF, the priest said it didn't count.

Don't you know what that means?

You can still go to heaven!!!

Probably not one of the better neighborhoods but still... on the right side of the gate.

Heaven -afterlife's gated community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gunfire hits Spirit Airlines flight arriving in Port-au-Prince; plane lands in Dominican Republic By Jacqueline Charles Updated November 11, 2024 2:07 PM

Crew wounded.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world...4.html#storylink=cpy

Have you ever flown on Spirit? I might be tempted to take a few shots myself.

I'm so confused. Reading the article, it sounds like armed gangs on the ground in Haiti shot at the planes. It doesn't sound like it was passengers? WTF does this have to do with Trump calling people animals? I'm pretty sure White Americans shoot people too so are they "animals" as well? Where should they be deported to?