Tenant-caused property damage that cannot be recouped

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, messes in kitchens are pretty typical, no? I thought you were going to say the walls were now unstable/the house was uninhabitable and the renters were bankrupt.

+1 yeah this isn't that bad. our tenants stuck a huge kiddie pool on our nicely manicured lawn and killed a massive patch of grass.

Homeowner. Grass is a consumable.

[Anonymous]

Renters usually do have unsanitary habbits in the US.

[Anonymous]

how much was the cleaning? Take it out of their deposit. what's the problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:how much was the cleaning? Take it out of their deposit. what's the problem?

They already lost their deposit due to other damage to the property beyond that mentioned in this post. It’s not worth it to pursue a case against the former tenant so this is liability I just have to pay myself. Posting this in case other newcomers to property management might think that all damages can be legally recouped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the sticky liquid and crumbs fell "where they could not be cleaned safely," how did you expect the tenants to clean them up?

Yeah, I own and I know that behind my stove it's probably terrifying. Oh well!

This is not a renter/owner divide.

Yeah I own and recently had a few appliances replaced. I was somewhat mortified at what was left behind when the installers pulled out the old. Not much to be done other than clean it up, plus nothing was actually ruined since I don't have hardwood under my appliances, and even if I did, the floor is covered by, you know, the appliances.

As for the cock roaches, I have never had any of those despite the mess under the appliances. Maybe your house/condo is just old and in need of a deep, deep, deep clean and regular fumigation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the sticky liquid and crumbs fell "where they could not be cleaned safely," how did you expect the tenants to clean them up?

Yeah, I own and I know that behind my stove it's probably terrifying. Oh well!

This is not a renter/owner divide.

Yeah I own and recently had a few appliances replaced. I was somewhat mortified at what was left behind when the installers pulled out the old. Not much to be done other than clean it up, plus nothing was actually ruined since I don't have hardwood under my appliances, and even if I did, the floor is covered by, you know, the appliances.

As for the cock roaches, I have never had any of those despite the mess under the appliances. Maybe your house/condo is just old and in need of a deep, deep, deep clean and regular fumigation.

I had an inspector come out and the house is less than 20 years old. It had also been treated by exterminators annually and inspected twice a year so I know exactly what the cause of the roaches is. All with a paper trail. Liability protection.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You threw out an over because of some sticky stuff and crumbs? WTF.

Roaches. Did you miss that?

Most tenants are not roach caretakers. I would know.

Dead roaches. This is not "unrecoupable propoerty damage." Get over yourself.

+1 op has zero clue about finances or being a landlord

[Anonymous]

My rental I have not visited it once since 2017. It was super mint and spotless when they got it. But I have to assume by the time they live everything will be trashed.

Only thing I would care if messed up would be I bought them a new Washer/Dryer, Oven and Fridge in the 2021-2022 period and I bought really good ones with a warranty from Lowes. They were there for delivery, I live out of state. I paid on credit card one line. They were working from home at time (most likely caused the 2003 appliances to give out as older and now being used 24/7). Both used to work in person out of house. I left them warranties electronically and told them call under warranty if any issue. They actually liked that. I paid for warranties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My rental I have not visited it once since 2017. It was super mint and spotless when they got it. But I have to assume by the time they live everything will be trashed.

Only thing I would care if messed up would be I bought them a new Washer/Dryer, Oven and Fridge in the 2021-2022 period and I bought really good ones with a warranty from Lowes. They were there for delivery, I live out of state. I paid on credit card one line. They were working from home at time (most likely caused the 2003 appliances to give out as older and now being used 24/7). Both used to work in person out of house. I left them warranties electronically and told them call under warranty if any issue. They actually liked that. I paid for warranties.

Do you have a local property manager? You should look into one. A professional one.

[Anonymous]

That’s gross but not in line with how you described it. You’re not cut out to be a landlord. It’s ok. I’m not either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how much was the cleaning? Take it out of their deposit. what's the problem?

They already lost their deposit due to other damage to the property beyond that mentioned in this post. It’s not worth it to pursue a case against the former tenant so this is liability I just have to pay myself. Posting this in case other newcomers to property management might think that all damages can be legally recouped.

why can't you recover damages on top of the security deposit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like being a landlord is not for you

Sounds like you are one of those disgusting tenants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how much was the cleaning? Take it out of their deposit. what's the problem?

They already lost their deposit due to other damage to the property beyond that mentioned in this post. It’s not worth it to pursue a case against the former tenant so this is liability I just have to pay myself. Posting this in case other newcomers to property management might think that all damages can be legally recouped.

why can't you recover damages on top of the security deposit?

I have already settled with the former tenants. I did retain their security deposit but it wasn’t worth it to take them to court for the rest of the damages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Renters usually do have unsanitary habbits in the US.

We have travelled in Europe and throughout Asia.

Americans, in general, have the highest cleanliness standards around, topped only by the Japanese.