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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand that College forum. Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive. In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in). Difficult, but hardly impossible.

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.

Hmm…St. Anne’s shows 21 of 85 kids going to Ivy schools…is your math so bad that you calculated that at 48%?

Collegiate isn’t even consider one of the elite NYC schools so I doubt it’s higher than Trinity at around 40%.

Any more made up stats for us?

Maybe that person is including schools like Duke, Johns Hopkins, Williams, etc. that can get you close to 50%. You seem really triggered by this.

I just wrote above that we know many kids getting in but they all have smart parents who also attended top colleges.

DH and I went to HYP for grad schools and T30 undergrad. We have 3 kids who are stronger than us in every way. I expect they will do equal or better than us. While Dh and I come from humble beginnings. Our kids have had every resource available to them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand that College forum. Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive. In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in). Difficult, but hardly impossible.

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.

Does you child attend one of these schools?

My DC is attending a school with similar stats and would be a legacy. (We're not super rich, just super smart.) Nevertheless, I recognize that getting in will still be difficult.

But even at Fairfax HS, 2 kids get into Princeton or MIT EVERY year. Difficult, but hardly impossible ... stop excusing mediocrity.

Except you are making up both your sets of stats. No school in the DMV has 50%+ getting into the Ivy schools.

At best, 50% are getting into top 20 if you include top 20 SLACs (which is debatable). Remove the SLACs and only like 30% and that’s top 20…not Ivy.

What’s also funny, is often no kids at STA and at best one kid at Sidwell gets into MIT (and that’s like every other year) which doesn’t count legacy.

So…either name the school your kid goes to or shut the f**k up because you are making up a ton of shit and making yourself look stupid.

NP here. I’m from NY and went to school in Boston. There are several private schools in NYC with high rate of Ivy+ like Trinity, Dalton, Collegiate and Horace Mann. Schools like Stuy and Bronx Science also sends a ton of kids to top schools but it isn’t 50%. The actual number of kids is probably higher though since the class sizes are huge, maybe close to 1000 per graduating class. There is also Milton in MA with high rates of top schools.

I’m not the pp but her kid could go to one of these.

I know Basis McLean is unpopular in the DMV but their college admissions in AZ and NY are also pretty good.

I know the NYC schools well and Trinity is the highest at around 40%…the others are high 20s. Not even sure why Collegiate is in the conversation…that’s a backup for Trinity, Dalton, Fieldston, Horace Mann, Riverdale et al.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand that College forum. Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive. In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in). Difficult, but hardly impossible.

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.

Hmm…St. Anne’s shows 21 of 85 kids going to Ivy schools…is your math so bad that you calculated that at 48%?

Collegiate isn’t even consider one of the elite NYC schools so I doubt it’s higher than Trinity at around 40%.

Any more made up stats for us?

Maybe that person is including schools like Duke, Johns Hopkins, Williams, etc. that can get you close to 50%. You seem really triggered by this.

I just wrote above that we know many kids getting in but they all have smart parents who also attended top colleges.

DH and I went to HYP for grad schools and T30 undergrad. We have 3 kids who are stronger than us in every way. I expect they will do equal or better than us. While Dh and I come from humble beginnings. Our kids have had every resource available to them.

Oh, hon. Seriously, spend some more time on the college board so you don't get hit with a very rude awakening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand that College forum. Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive. In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in). Difficult, but hardly impossible.

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.

Sorry what does this mean?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand that College forum. Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive. In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in). Difficult, but hardly impossible.

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.

Hmm…St. Anne’s shows 21 of 85 kids going to Ivy schools…is your math so bad that you calculated that at 48%?

Collegiate isn’t even consider one of the elite NYC schools so I doubt it’s higher than Trinity at around 40%.

Any more made up stats for us?

Maybe that person is including schools like Duke, Johns Hopkins, Williams, etc. that can get you close to 50%. You seem really triggered by this.

I just wrote above that we know many kids getting in but they all have smart parents who also attended top colleges.

DH and I went to HYP for grad schools and T30 undergrad. We have 3 kids who are stronger than us in every way. I expect they will do equal or better than us. While Dh and I come from humble beginnings. Our kids have had every resource available to them.

Because when people just outright make shit up it pisses me off…considering the school only has 1 going to JHU and none to Duke or Stanford or MIT and only 2 to Williams and that still doesnt get you anywhere close to 50%. Maybe they could actually write what is an easily provable fact?

The person was trying to claim that others are mediocre when these schools have 50%+ attending Ivy League schools…when these schools don’t even send 50% to these schools and they are tiny and filled with ultra wealthy and legacy families.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand that College forum. Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive. In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in). Difficult, but hardly impossible.

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.

Does you child attend one of these schools?

My DC is attending a school with similar stats and would be a legacy. (We're not super rich, just super smart.) Nevertheless, I recognize that getting in will still be difficult.

But even at Fairfax HS, 2 kids get into Princeton or MIT EVERY year. Difficult, but hardly impossible ... stop excusing mediocrity.

Except you are making up both your sets of stats. No school in the DMV has 50%+ getting into the Ivy schools.

At best, 50% are getting into top 20 if you include top 20 SLACs (which is debatable). Remove the SLACs and only like 30% and that’s top 20…not Ivy.

What’s also funny, is often no kids at STA and at best one kid at Sidwell gets into MIT (and that’s like every other year) which doesn’t count legacy.

So…either name the school your kid goes to or shut the f**k up because you are making up a ton of shit and making yourself look stupid.

NP here. I’m from NY and went to school in Boston. There are several private schools in NYC with high rate of Ivy+ like Trinity, Dalton, Collegiate and Horace Mann. Schools like Stuy and Bronx Science also sends a ton of kids to top schools but it isn’t 50%. The actual number of kids is probably higher though since the class sizes are huge, maybe close to 1000 per graduating class. There is also Milton in MA with high rates of top schools.

I’m not the pp but her kid could go to one of these.

I know Basis McLean is unpopular in the DMV but their college admissions in AZ and NY are also pretty good.

I know the NYC schools well and Trinity is the highest at around 40%…the others are high 20s. Not even sure why Collegiate is in the conversation…that’s a backup for Trinity, Dalton, Fieldston, Horace Mann, Riverdale et al.

It sounds like we have found the school PP's son goes to...

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand that College forum. Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive. In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in). Difficult, but hardly impossible.

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.

Does you child attend one of these schools?

My DC is attending a school with similar stats and would be a legacy. (We're not super rich, just super smart.) Nevertheless, I recognize that getting in will still be difficult.

But even at Fairfax HS, 2 kids get into Princeton or MIT EVERY year. Difficult, but hardly impossible ... stop excusing mediocrity.

Except you are making up both your sets of stats. No school in the DMV has 50%+ getting into the Ivy schools.

At best, 50% are getting into top 20 if you include top 20 SLACs (which is debatable). Remove the SLACs and only like 30% and that’s top 20…not Ivy.

What’s also funny, is often no kids at STA and at best one kid at Sidwell gets into MIT (and that’s like every other year) which doesn’t count legacy.

So…either name the school your kid goes to or shut the f**k up because you are making up a ton of shit and making yourself look stupid.

DC doesn't go to school in DMV and will apply to HYP as a legacy to one. That's about as much as I would disclose. Sorry about your own predicament, better luck next time.

A bit early to gloat, "supersmart" person?

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Look at polarislist.com . Even the worst inner city or rural schools are sending at least one student to MIT, Princeton or Harvard every single year. But somehow people say that it's impossible to get into these schools. That claim of impossibility sounds like a bullshit excuse to me. Own the excuse and be happy at George Mason.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at polarislist.com . Even the worst inner city or rural schools are sending at least one student to MIT, Princeton or Harvard every single year. But somehow people say that it's impossible to get into these schools. That claim of impossibility sounds like a bullshit excuse to me. Own the excuse and be happy at George Mason.

I looked at polarislist. A total of 1500 out of 3500 schools sent at least 1 person to MIT or Princeton or Harvard in a THREE YEAR PERIOD. If you look only at schools that sent 3+ people in the same 3 year period (one per year or more) you get 610 schools. Again, out of 3500 schools.

So, no, "even the worst inner city or rural schools" are not sending at least one student to HPM every year. And those are relatively old data, and it's gotten even more competitive since.

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DCMoms reminds me of every October. Every person who flunks the bar exam claims that the exam is "impossible." But the pass rate is 80% ???

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand that College forum. Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive. In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in). Difficult, but hardly impossible.

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.

Hmm…St. Anne’s shows 21 of 85 kids going to Ivy schools…is your math so bad that you calculated that at 48%?

Collegiate isn’t even consider one of the elite NYC schools so I doubt it’s higher than Trinity at around 40%.

Any more made up stats for us?

Maybe that person is including schools like Duke, Johns Hopkins, Williams, etc. that can get you close to 50%. You seem really triggered by this.

I just wrote above that we know many kids getting in but they all have smart parents who also attended top colleges.

DH and I went to HYP for grad schools and T30 undergrad. We have 3 kids who are stronger than us in every way. I expect they will do equal or better than us. While Dh and I come from humble beginnings. Our kids have had every resource available to them.

Oh, hon. Seriously, spend some more time on the college board so you don't get hit with a very rude awakening.

My oldest is a standout. He is far superior than Dh and me in every way. Of course nothing is guaranteed. Dh is very active at his schools. I have full confidence this kid will do just fine with UVA as his back up. With his stats from his school, he will at least get into UVA.

We are now in it preparing for college. All of friends have kids in high school or college. What I am saying is that if you have parents who went to T30 schools, have worked in law, medicine, tech, consulting, they have all recruited and seen how impressive these kids are. My kid is as good, at least my oldest one. If your mom went to Princeton, makes millions in finance, you go to a top private school in NYC, the likelihood of you getting into Penn is higher than your kid who has perfect stats from Fairfax high trying to get into Wharton.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand that College forum. Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive. In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in). Difficult, but hardly impossible.

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.

Hmm…St. Anne’s shows 21 of 85 kids going to Ivy schools…is your math so bad that you calculated that at 48%?

Collegiate isn’t even consider one of the elite NYC schools so I doubt it’s higher than Trinity at around 40%.

Any more made up stats for us?

Maybe that person is including schools like Duke, Johns Hopkins, Williams, etc. that can get you close to 50%. You seem really triggered by this.

I just wrote above that we know many kids getting in but they all have smart parents who also attended top colleges.

DH and I went to HYP for grad schools and T30 undergrad. We have 3 kids who are stronger than us in every way. I expect they will do equal or better than us. While Dh and I come from humble beginnings. Our kids have had every resource available to them.

Oh, hon. Seriously, spend some more time on the college board so you don't get hit with a very rude awakening.

My oldest is a standout. He is far superior than Dh and me in every way. Of course nothing is guaranteed. Dh is very active at his schools. I have full confidence this kid will do just fine with UVA as his back up. With his stats from his school, he will at least get into UVA.

We are now in it preparing for college. All of friends have kids in high school or college. What I am saying is that if you have parents who went to T30 schools, have worked in law, medicine, tech, consulting, they have all recruited and seen how impressive these kids are. My kid is as good, at least my oldest one. If your mom went to Princeton, makes millions in finance, you go to a top private school in NYC, the likelihood of you getting into Penn is higher than your kid who has perfect stats from Fairfax high trying to get into Wharton.

This all started with there is a 5% chance of getting into Harvard.

Others than pointed out that people with money, legacy, athletes etc have greater than a 5% chance…which means the real chance for an average high stats/high gpa kid is actually less than 5%.

It’s weird that you are somehow saying…don’t worry, it’s not that hard to get into these schools…just make sure your parents are rich and you attend an elite NYC private school. How does that help this conversation?

In your example, if that kid applies to Princeton their chance is 20%+ due to legacy…which just chips away at the 5% for the random kid.

[Anonymous]

Don't you have google? Can you not just google the colleges and see what they require? They differ.
This is dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids are still in elementary school but what exactly goes into college admissions today? Is it still an application, SAT scores and a written essay?

Seriously, stop.

Raise your kids. Focus on their physical, mental, and academic growth/health. College is a long way off and the landscape will be different when it’s time for them to think about it.

Just raise your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand that College forum. Parents act like the Ivy acceptance rate is 0.00001% and that DC needs a Nobel Prize to be competitive. In fact, the Harvard acceptance rate is 5% (1 in 20 is getting in). Difficult, but hardly impossible.

You're right, you don't understand. It's a lot lower than 5% for these elite schools, closer to 3%, and once you take into account pulling in legacies, athletes, first generation, and underrepresented minorities, the chances go down to nearly non-existent.

Keep telling yourself it's simply "difficult."

At St. Ann's 48% will go to an Ivy, at Colligiate in Manhattan, 50+% will go to an Ivy.
I'll keep telling myself it's [sic] simply "difficult," while you keep making excuses for mediocrity.

Hmm…St. Anne’s shows 21 of 85 kids going to Ivy schools…is your math so bad that you calculated that at 48%?

Collegiate isn’t even consider one of the elite NYC schools so I doubt it’s higher than Trinity at around 40%.

Any more made up stats for us?

Maybe that person is including schools like Duke, Johns Hopkins, Williams, etc. that can get you close to 50%. You seem really triggered by this.

I just wrote above that we know many kids getting in but they all have smart parents who also attended top colleges.

DH and I went to HYP for grad schools and T30 undergrad. We have 3 kids who are stronger than us in every way. I expect they will do equal or better than us. While Dh and I come from humble beginnings. Our kids have had every resource available to them.

Oh, hon. Seriously, spend some more time on the college board so you don't get hit with a very rude awakening.

My oldest is a standout. He is far superior than Dh and me in every way. Of course nothing is guaranteed. Dh is very active at his schools. I have full confidence this kid will do just fine with UVA as his back up. With his stats from his school, he will at least get into UVA.

We are now in it preparing for college. All of friends have kids in high school or college. What I am saying is that if you have parents who went to T30 schools, have worked in law, medicine, tech, consulting, they have all recruited and seen how impressive these kids are. My kid is as good, at least my oldest one. If your mom went to Princeton, makes millions in finance, you go to a top private school in NYC, the likelihood of you getting into Penn is higher than your kid who has perfect stats from Fairfax high trying to get into Wharton.

This all started with there is a 5% chance of getting into Harvard.

Others than pointed out that people with money, legacy, athletes etc have greater than a 5% chance…which means the real chance for an average high stats/high gpa kid is actually less than 5%.

It’s weird that you are somehow saying…don’t worry, it’s not that hard to get into these schools…just make sure your parents are rich and you attend an elite NYC private school. How does that help this conversation?

In your example, if that kid applies to Princeton their chance is 20%+ due to legacy…which just chips away at the 5% for the random kid.

Sorry, I didn’t read the whole thread. Yes, all the kids we know getting into these top schools have well educated parents who are in the top 1%. I absolutely agree that an average kid who isn’t rich and isn’t legacy or an athlete has a less than 5% chance.

I see our friends and colleagues who all attended a T20 college or grad school have kids getting into T50 schools. Sure, there may be some kids who end up at Wake Forest or Tulane but that is the absolute rock bottom. If your dad went to Harvard law and your mom went to Wharton, the kid isn’t going to JMU.