Second home in Colorado, how hard to qualify for in state tuition?

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Establish domicile at least a year prior to applying. Schools are very stingy about re-classifying from out-of-state to in-state, and they hold all the cards. You turn in your form, they say no, you have three more years paying full freight. Colorado doesn't buy retirees, a state like South Carolina would make the deal.

If their kid is in public HS, can they still do this and have their kid attend the (non-CO) public school as a CO resident?

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So why aren’t you there NOW? The sole reason for you to move there when you do is to establish residency for in state tuition. And you still have not explained why you are so freakin’ cheap.

Because we have a child in HS. But their admission into a state school in college is not the reason why. If they ended CC we would still move there.

Why are you not listening to people trying to explain? If your kid doesn’t go to HS in Colorado, it’s going to be very difficult to claim domicile. Owning property doesn’t matter. Moving after the kid graduates HS doesn’t matter. Applying for residency after the kid starts college is prohibited by Colorado law, as people have tried to explain.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So why aren’t you there NOW? The sole reason for you to move there when you do is to establish residency for in state tuition. And you still have not explained why you are so freakin’ cheap.

Because we have a child in HS. But their admission into a state school in college is not the reason why. If they ended CC we would still move there.

Why are you not listening to people trying to explain? If your kid doesn’t go to HS in Colorado, it’s going to be very difficult to claim domicile. Owning property doesn’t matter. Moving after the kid graduates HS doesn’t matter. Applying for residency after the kid starts college is prohibited by Colorado law, as people have tried to explain.

It’s not prohibited. They just have to overcome the presumption they are trying to scam the state by presenting clear and convincing evidence they aren’t.

Are you, OP? Trying to scam the state by claiming residency when you are not currently a legal resident?

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So imagine that you weren’t as wealthy as you are. You love Colorado. You wish to retire to Colorado. You go there on vacation whenever you can make it work. But you don’t have the money to buy a second home. You decide for whatever reason to live in Virginia (or wherever) all through your child’s HS career. When your kid graduates from high school, you will pack up the U-Haul and move to Colorado. Would this poorer version of you be entitled to claiming domicile in Colorado in your opinion? If not, don’t you think that States should prevent people from being able to buy their way into domicile for instate tuition purposes? If the poor(er) version of your couldn’t get in state tuition, why should the rich version, as a matter of public policy?

Your focus on your vacation home ownership is tone deaf.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So imagine that you weren’t as wealthy as you are. You love Colorado. You wish to retire to Colorado. You go there on vacation whenever you can make it work. But you don’t have the money to buy a second home. You decide for whatever reason to live in Virginia (or wherever) all through your child’s HS career. When your kid graduates from high school, you will pack up the U-Haul and move to Colorado. Would this poorer version of you be entitled to claiming domicile in Colorado in your opinion? If not, don’t you think that States should prevent people from being able to buy their way into domicile for instate tuition purposes? If the poor(er) version of your couldn’t get in state tuition, why should the rich version, as a matter of public policy?

Your focus on your vacation home ownership is tone deaf.

Yes, I do think in some cases they would and should at least apply and try. It really depends on what the eligibility office says. No one is scamming/fraudulent if they apply with truthful information about their living situation and let the actual office of residency decide.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So imagine that you weren’t as wealthy as you are. You love Colorado. You wish to retire to Colorado. You go there on vacation whenever you can make it work. But you don’t have the money to buy a second home. You decide for whatever reason to live in Virginia (or wherever) all through your child’s HS career. When your kid graduates from high school, you will pack up the U-Haul and move to Colorado. Would this poorer version of you be entitled to claiming domicile in Colorado in your opinion? If not, don’t you think that States should prevent people from being able to buy their way into domicile for instate tuition purposes? If the poor(er) version of your couldn’t get in state tuition, why should the rich version, as a matter of public policy?

Your focus on your vacation home ownership is tone deaf.

Your inflexible attitude is the reason you’re holding yourself back in life. If you don’t ask, you do not know. Stop making assumptions. Be truthful/honest but don’t hold back from trying.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So why aren’t you there NOW? The sole reason for you to move there when you do is to establish residency for in state tuition. And you still have not explained why you are so freakin’ cheap.

Because we have a child in HS. But their admission into a state school in college is not the reason why. If they ended CC we would still move there.

Why are you not listening to people trying to explain? If your kid doesn’t go to HS in Colorado, it’s going to be very difficult to claim domicile. Owning property doesn’t matter. Moving after the kid graduates HS doesn’t matter. Applying for residency after the kid starts college is prohibited by Colorado law, as people have tried to explain.

It’s not prohibited. They just have to overcome the presumption they are trying to scam the state by presenting clear and convincing evidence they aren’t.

Are you, OP? Trying to scam the state by claiming residency when you are not currently a legal resident?

It’s not scamming. The office of residency can clearly see where the child attended high school in their history and transcript. It would be providing the information about our living situation and letting them decide.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So imagine that you weren’t as wealthy as you are. You love Colorado. You wish to retire to Colorado. You go there on vacation whenever you can make it work. But you don’t have the money to buy a second home. You decide for whatever reason to live in Virginia (or wherever) all through your child’s HS career. When your kid graduates from high school, you will pack up the U-Haul and move to Colorado. Would this poorer version of you be entitled to claiming domicile in Colorado in your opinion? If not, don’t you think that States should prevent people from being able to buy their way into domicile for instate tuition purposes? If the poor(er) version of your couldn’t get in state tuition, why should the rich version, as a matter of public policy?

Your focus on your vacation home ownership is tone deaf.

Yes, I do think in some cases they would and should at least apply and try. It really depends on what the eligibility office says. No one is scamming/fraudulent if they apply with truthful information about their living situation and let the actual office of residency decide.

the rules are quite clear that there’s a strong presumption against this.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So imagine that you weren’t as wealthy as you are. You love Colorado. You wish to retire to Colorado. You go there on vacation whenever you can make it work. But you don’t have the money to buy a second home. You decide for whatever reason to live in Virginia (or wherever) all through your child’s HS career. When your kid graduates from high school, you will pack up the U-Haul and move to Colorado. Would this poorer version of you be entitled to claiming domicile in Colorado in your opinion? If not, don’t you think that States should prevent people from being able to buy their way into domicile for instate tuition purposes? If the poor(er) version of your couldn’t get in state tuition, why should the rich version, as a matter of public policy?

Your focus on your vacation home ownership is tone deaf.

Yes, I do think in some cases they would and should at least apply and try. It really depends on what the eligibility office says. No one is scamming/fraudulent if they apply with truthful information about their living situation and let the actual office of residency decide.

the rules are quite clear that there’s a strong presumption against this.

I’ll let them decide based on the information.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So imagine that you weren’t as wealthy as you are. You love Colorado. You wish to retire to Colorado. You go there on vacation whenever you can make it work. But you don’t have the money to buy a second home. You decide for whatever reason to live in Virginia (or wherever) all through your child’s HS career. When your kid graduates from high school, you will pack up the U-Haul and move to Colorado. Would this poorer version of you be entitled to claiming domicile in Colorado in your opinion? If not, don’t you think that States should prevent people from being able to buy their way into domicile for instate tuition purposes? If the poor(er) version of your couldn’t get in state tuition, why should the rich version, as a matter of public policy?

Your focus on your vacation home ownership is tone deaf.

Your inflexible attitude is the reason you’re holding yourself back in life. If you don’t ask, you do not know. Stop making assumptions. Be truthful/honest but don’t hold back from trying.

It’s the law not an “inflexible attitude.”

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So why aren’t you there NOW? The sole reason for you to move there when you do is to establish residency for in state tuition. And you still have not explained why you are so freakin’ cheap.

Because we have a child in HS. But their admission into a state school in college is not the reason why. If they ended CC we would still move there.

Why are you not listening to people trying to explain? If your kid doesn’t go to HS in Colorado, it’s going to be very difficult to claim domicile. Owning property doesn’t matter. Moving after the kid graduates HS doesn’t matter. Applying for residency after the kid starts college is prohibited by Colorado law, as people have tried to explain.

It’s not prohibited. They just have to overcome the presumption they are trying to scam the state by presenting clear and convincing evidence they aren’t.

Are you, OP? Trying to scam the state by claiming residency when you are not currently a legal resident?

It’s not scamming. The office of residency can clearly see where the child attended high school in their history and transcript. It would be providing the information about our living situation and letting them decide.

Is this you OP? Have you bothered to read the materials available online? Even if (big if) you can get residency you realize they look back a whole year prior to matriculation? And I don’t believe for a second that your kid is only applying to Colorado schools.

Also why are you so cheap?

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No it’s not actually different. Your domicile is where you live now not Colorado. Owning a vacation home doesn’t buy you in state tuition.

We are retired and plan to live half the year there. Tuition would be applied for after the first year. We always have planned to retire there, that’s why we have owned the home there for 10 years. House was not purchased with intent for in state tuition. We are not employed in current state. Child just decided to attend college there and chances they will stay there after is greater than any chance of returning to home stars. We will live in this state more than our current one. It’s not a black or white situation and it’s not fraud.

Lol OP. It actually is black and white: you are not domiciled in Colorado now, and the sole purpose of you establishing domicile would be to obtain in-state tuition. Because we all know that if you kid gets rejected from Boulder but accepted to UVA, you’ll be claiming Virginia domicile.

No, the sole purpose wouldn’t be. We are retiring there and have always planned to (why we bought a house ten years ago) and why we retired early so we wouldn’t have to be tied to this area.

Kid didn’t even apply to UVA. Applied to Colorado College, Boulder, Denver and Mines.

So why aren’t you there NOW? The sole reason for you to move there when you do is to establish residency for in state tuition. And you still have not explained why you are so freakin’ cheap.

Because we have a child in HS. But their admission into a state school in college is not the reason why. If they ended CC we would still move there.

Why are you not listening to people trying to explain? If your kid doesn’t go to HS in Colorado, it’s going to be very difficult to claim domicile. Owning property doesn’t matter. Moving after the kid graduates HS doesn’t matter. Applying for residency after the kid starts college is prohibited by Colorado law, as people have tried to explain.

It’s not prohibited. They just have to overcome the presumption they are trying to scam the state by presenting clear and convincing evidence they aren’t.

Are you, OP? Trying to scam the state by claiming residency when you are not currently a legal resident?

It’s not scamming. The office of residency can clearly see where the child attended high school in their history and transcript. It would be providing the information about our living situation and letting them decide.

So you aren’t trying to scam the state you love and shortchange the other students at your child’s future alma mater? You’ve checked the rules and have gathered your clear and convincing proof? Ok, you should be good to go. Shouldn’t be hard at all, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

No, it really isn't. And it doesn't matter what "you think."

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OP is allowed to present their case and ask. And after the school spends limited resources checking OP’s status, they can say no.