Second home in Colorado, how hard to qualify for in state tuition?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

This. OP you are not the first person to try this and the state has taken steps to keep people explicitly from doing what you want to do. If you wanted in-state tuition you should have moved there when your kids were still in HS.

If you have a house in Telluride you can afford OOS tuition. Stop being cheap.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know about CU Boulder, but when I was in Georgia, living there, voting, and having a DL were not enough — I had to prove I earned enough income to live on my own there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You need to not claim your kid on your income taxes the year before

Sometimes they require more than that — I had to prove I earned enough income from my job to support myself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

The law is pretty clear. Clearly you’re doing this for the purpose of in-state tuition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

It holds zero weight. In fact, owning a vacation home is explicitly NOT sufficient to establish domicile.

https://cdhe.colorado.gov/students/preparing-for-college/residency-requirements/evidence-of-domicile

[Anonymous]

OP, read the above helpful link the PP provided.

"Ownership of vacation or income property is not an indication of domicile."

[Anonymous]

The following may be considered as evidence indicating domicile outside Colorado:

Failure to pay Colorado state income tax. Filing a nonresident Colorado tax return is persuasive evidence of domicile outside Colorado.
Failure to comply with any law imposing a mandatory duty on a permanent resident of Colorado. Examples include failure to register a motor vehicle and failure to change your driver's license to Colorado within the statutory periods, as well as failure to file a Colorado state income tax return.
Return to your former state of residence for a substantial period of time during the summer or during other periods when not enrolled as a student or between academic sessions.
Maintenance of a home in another state.
Prolonged absence from Colorado, except for military or government service or for temporary absences required by an employer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

no, it does not. Speaking as a long-time Colorado taxpayer, we really don't care about you owning a vacation home in Telluride that would be much better used by an actual member of the community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

no, it does not. Speaking as a long-time Colorado taxpayer, we really don't care about you owning a vacation home in Telluride that would be much better used by an actual member of the community.

DP. being petty and making it personal doesn't help anyone.

[Anonymous]

Op - be sure you talk to a financial planner and a good accountant that knows you current state tax law vs CO state tax law for estates. It sounds like you have $ you might want to protect longterm (if you own two houses) and states can vary a lot on what is exempt from estate tax when you die. This sort of tax hit for your heirs could be much larger than what you save on tuition to get in state tuition for 2-3 years. (I have no idea what CO laws are - but based on current estate work we did for family - CA uses federal exemption amounts vs WA that exempts far far less)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

no, it does not. Speaking as a long-time Colorado taxpayer, we really don't care about you owning a vacation home in Telluride that would be much better used by an actual member of the community.

You surely realize it's not about what you care about. The university decides.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

no, it does not. Speaking as a long-time Colorado taxpayer, we really don't care about you owning a vacation home in Telluride that would be much better used by an actual member of the community.

Yes and the student would be working + living in Telluride in the summer, including prior to freshman year. Paying taxes as a member of the community. I left home for college and never returned to my hometown even for a year. I married and started a family here. As others mentioned, we will apply and let the university decide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

no, it does not. Speaking as a long-time Colorado taxpayer, we really don't care about you owning a vacation home in Telluride that would be much better used by an actual member of the community.

Yes and the student would be working + living in Telluride in the summer, including prior to freshman year. Paying taxes as a member of the community. I left home for college and never returned to my hometown even for a year. I married and started a family here. As others mentioned, we will apply and let the university decide.

This is what happens if you don’t tell the full truth when you apply-
https://www.redandblack.com/uganews/father-lies-about-residency-to-obtain-in-state-tuition-faces-felony-charges/article_e64dd228-4518-11e5-9daf-2f4d119925d7.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like it's not worth the trouble for the cost, for someone who has a second home in Telluride.

If you don't sever ties with your current state, that may be an issue. Would you sell your current home?

No we wouldn't. I guess I just don't see the big drawback, if we are retired at this point, to changing our primary residence and we would already be living about half the year in each state. Since we have owned the home for so long, a lot of the proof of domicile is already available (proof of address, utilities).

You’ll probably want to move before attending:

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].

I see your point but it's case by case and I think owning a home for over a decade in the state holds quite a bit of weight. It's a lot different situation than just living in the dorm and then renting and trying to claim your rental residence as your primary home.

no, it does not. Speaking as a long-time Colorado taxpayer, we really don't care about you owning a vacation home in Telluride that would be much better used by an actual member of the community.

You surely realize it's not about what you care about. The university decides.

Actually, it does matter what actual residents of Colorado think. They elect people who make the laws OP will need to get around to make this work. They have said they don’t like it.

No person may establish domicile in Colorado solely for the purpose of changing a student's classification for tuition purposes from nonresident to resident.

Absent clear and convincing evidence to the contrary, it is presumed that a student classified as a nonresident at the time of matriculation who seeks to establish Colorado domicile while registered at CU seeks Colorado domicile solely for tuition purposes, which is an unlawful purpose [Colorado Revised Statutes § 23-7-101-103(2)(e)].