Bait and Switch - Roster Size

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone complains about roster size in their journey to get to college soccer.

How many players are on college rosters?

Amen to that. My kid didn’t to play college, he just wanted to play and those last few years were so disappointing, especially after he unfortunately voiced he didn’t plan to play college…

[Anonymous]

Soccer doesn’t have a happy ending for most. Injured, cut, sitting the bench etc. enjoy the ride while you can.

[Anonymous]

Not to mention most colleges are recruiting from international sources, not US clubs

[Anonymous]

At what age is this reasonable? My kid is in 7th grade and we are seeing this with their team. Seems young.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:if you child is not playing and has put in the work at practices, you should find another club. the brand names mean nothing when it comes to recruiting for colleges and your child does not play. been through this and it is a very bad experience. club: baltimore armour.

I just listened to an interview with a D1 Coach, he gave similar advice. They have taken female players from EDP level, because they are playing and they had marketed themselves very well. That is hard to do if you are on the bench in a high level league. He said they are looking at more than just highlights from Showcases where he knows everyone will get playtime. He also looked at quality of play over time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not to mention most colleges are recruiting from international sources, not US clubs

A little bit of facts here. In mens college D1 international players make up about of 1/3 rosters. For women it's about 1 out of 8. That means US players are still the vast majority. 67% of mens and 88% of women playing in D1 are domestic players. Don't blame the internationals for why your kid can't make it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to mention most colleges are recruiting from international sources, not US clubs

A little bit of facts here. In mens college D1 international players make up about of 1/3 rosters. For women it's about 1 out of 8. That means US players are still the vast majority. 67% of mens and 88% of women playing in D1 are domestic players. Don't blame the internationals for why your kid can't make it.

Um most D1 schools aren't privately funded. Also international students arent paying the American tax dollars that fund Universities. So yes I'll blame all the international players that I want. Unless they are paying for college 100% out of their own pocket. (which we all know none are)

[Anonymous]

agree previous poster about baltimore armour. the mls next u17 and u19 boys rosters are at least 25. if you are not one of coaches favorites, forget about seeing any play for games. waste of time and money and not a healthy environment.

[Anonymous]

We are in the EDP league girls U14. ( 2012BY)
16 kids on the roster. They all get playing time, some more than others but I’m ok with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to mention most colleges are recruiting from international sources, not US clubs

A little bit of facts here. In mens college D1 international players make up about of 1/3 rosters. For women it's about 1 out of 8. That means US players are still the vast majority. 67% of mens and 88% of women playing in D1 are domestic players. Don't blame the internationals for why your kid can't make it.

Um most D1 schools aren't privately funded. Also international students arent paying the American tax dollars that fund Universities. So yes I'll blame all the international players that I want. Unless they are paying for college 100% out of their own pocket. (which we all know none are)

Tax dollars don’t fund the soccer teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to mention most colleges are recruiting from international sources, not US clubs

A little bit of facts here. In mens college D1 international players make up about of 1/3 rosters. For women it's about 1 out of 8. That means US players are still the vast majority. 67% of mens and 88% of women playing in D1 are domestic players. Don't blame the internationals for why your kid can't make it.

on mens sids go look at starting 11.. its line 70% international on most. So yea US soccer keeps falling behind

[Anonymous]

It’s only a matter of time before the women’s college teams have as many international players as the men. Maybe then they will figure out they need to cap the number of international players allowed on each team.

[Anonymous]

In certain circumstances it is needed. I coach a u19 team and around halfway through the Spring season I’ll be fielding teams with 11 guys including call ups from younger teams because HS seniors basically check out. At the MLSNext or ECNL levels it’s basically because there are kids on the roster that aren’t performing to the level that’s expected, or they’re unreliable. If it’s the former, the kids underperforming should bump down to the second team but most parents and kids realistically would rather stay “elite” than to cope with the news that they’re not good enough and will play “non-elite”.

I’ve coached for some time and I can totally see how this would be a cash grab, and maybe it is, but there’s also a small argument to be made that coaches DO NOT want to be telling 3-5 kids every week “we can only roster 18 and you can’t play”. Imagine being a coach having to say that every week to multiple kids when you have these expanded roster sizes. . Just saying, I don’t know all the circumstances however I have a target roster size of 22-24 kids this season based on last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not to mention most colleges are recruiting from international sources, not US clubs

A little bit of facts here. In mens college D1 international players make up about of 1/3 rosters. For women it's about 1 out of 8. That means US players are still the vast majority. 67% of mens and 88% of women playing in D1 are domestic players. Don't blame the internationals for why your kid can't make it.

Um most D1 schools aren't privately funded. Also international students arent paying the American tax dollars that fund Universities. So yes I'll blame all the international players that I want. Unless they are paying for college 100% out of their own pocket. (which we all know none are)

Tax dollars don’t fund the soccer teams.

Yeah, pretty sure athletic departments fund teams. Think TV deals, tickets to events, licensing, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s only a matter of time before the women’s college teams have as many international players as the men. Maybe then they will figure out they need to cap the number of international players allowed on each team.

Matter of time indeed. Coaches want to win. That means best players are chosen. As the rest of the female world provides more attention and resources to their players we are seeing our US players starting to enter the middle and bottom tiers of talent.