UVA frat booted for hazing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that in this day and age of inclusion, that Greek life is like this still.

Inclusion with only a select few who were chosen because they are all similar. And there are rules on what you can and can’t do. One of the best parts of college is meeting so many different kinds of people and you don’t get that as much when you are required to live with the same people.

Fraternities down South are all White or all Black. Members of an all white fraternity at the University of Mississippi went out to harass a 30 student protest and three of them started making monkey noises at a Black woman. Weren’t even worried that they were being recorded. Imagine what they do when they aren’t being recorded. Racism at its best

Exactly! They had to know they would be recorded. Or maybe not, and they are just so stupid and so engrained that they think their behavior is acceptable

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one says “frat.”

People in Greek life don’t call them “frats” because they self-importantly feel this is a derogatory term (“Would you call your country a c——?” was how my fratty brother used to earnestly explain to me every time I “forgot”).

The rest of us do take great delight in calling them frats, thanks very much.

Who pulled more in college, you or your brother?

“Pulled more”? Do girls in sororities use that term to describe their conquests? Sad. But ok, I guess my brother “pulled more”; I met my husband while I was at Harvard. He was not in a frat.

My brother was a frat boy at the University of Pittsburgh. I visited his frat house once, and it fit the stereotype of frat culture to an almost cartoonish degree. So, yeah, I guess he “pulled more.”

Party on, bro.

Sounds like your brother had a way funner college experience than you did. But nice humblebrag about going to Harvard.

Sorry, dude. She wins this one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one says “frat.”

People in Greek life don’t call them “frats” because they self-importantly feel this is a derogatory term (“Would you call your country a c——?” was how my fratty brother used to earnestly explain to me every time I “forgot”).

The rest of us do take great delight in calling them frats, thanks very much.

Who pulled more in college, you or your brother?

“Pulled more”? Do girls in sororities use that term to describe their conquests? Sad. But ok, I guess my brother “pulled more”; I met my husband while I was at Harvard. He was not in a frat.

My brother was a frat boy at the University of Pittsburgh. I visited his frat house once, and it fit the stereotype of frat culture to an almost cartoonish degree. So, yeah, I guess he “pulled more.”

Party on, bro.

Sounds like your brother had a way funner college experience than you did. But nice humblebrag about going to Harvard.

Way funner? Sounds like you should've spent more time in class and less time at the frat house "pulling tail."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:meh, boys will be boys...they know the drill...

What is the 1950s? Who says that ridiculous phrase anymore

[Anonymous]

For being manly men, they do spend a lot of time touching other man’s privates.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have had two kids in the greek system at UVA and yes there are fraternities which your kid can join and not be subjected to this type of hazing. He was 100% fine with anything he did as was I as his parent. He was never forced to drink or eat anything nor in any type of life threatening situation. And yes I do believe him. His chapter is especially dedicated to NOT hazing, which is why he chose it.

What you also have to know is that UVA is VERY strict about hazing.

PIKA is well known for hazing, as is Theta Chi. If you pledged there, you knew what you're getting into. Not that it excuses it, but the kids know which houses will put them through hell and which won't.

If it’s well known for hazing, why do kids choose this fraternity over other ones?

They're top tier. If you get a bid to a top-tier frat, which most people who post in these threads didn't, you put up with 8-12 weeks of hazing in exchange for 3.5 years of god status on campus and endless mixers with the hottest sororities. Top-tier frats also plug you into an amazing professional network with tons of valuable connections for finance and consulting jobs after graduation. Short-term pain, long-term gain. And 99 times out of 100, the pain isn't really pain, just mild to moderate discomfort.

That old stereotype about long term benefits, right. And if you consider white girls who bleach their hair unnatural shades of yellow and are willing to degrade themselves for attention hot then that’s the place to be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have had two kids in the greek system at UVA and yes there are fraternities which your kid can join and not be subjected to this type of hazing. He was 100% fine with anything he did as was I as his parent. He was never forced to drink or eat anything nor in any type of life threatening situation. And yes I do believe him. His chapter is especially dedicated to NOT hazing, which is why he chose it.

What you also have to know is that UVA is VERY strict about hazing.

PIKA is well known for hazing, as is Theta Chi. If you pledged there, you knew what you're getting into. Not that it excuses it, but the kids know which houses will put them through hell and which won't.

If it’s well known for hazing, why do kids choose this fraternity over other ones?

They're top tier. If you get a bid to a top-tier frat, which most people who post in these threads didn't, you put up with 8-12 weeks of hazing in exchange for 3.5 years of god status on campus and endless mixers with the hottest sororities. Top-tier frats also plug you into an amazing professional network with tons of valuable connections for finance and consulting jobs after graduation. Short-term pain, long-term gain. And 99 times out of 100, the pain isn't really pain, just mild to moderate discomfort.

That old stereotype about long term benefits, right. And if you consider white girls who bleach their hair unnatural shades of yellow and are willing to degrade themselves for attention hot then that’s the place to be.

It's not a stereotype. Compared to the general population, the percentage of CEOs, one-percenters, and even U.S. presidents who are fraternity men is exceptionally high. And if you actually spent time in a top-tier fraternity house pulling, you'd know that the teen movie trope where all sorority dimez are bleached blond bimbos is totally false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For being manly men, they do spend a lot of time touching other man’s privates.

Top tier men need somewhere to express their true nature.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For being manly men, they do spend a lot of time touching other man’s privates.

Yes, why is that? Seems a common theme. Is this some sort of dominance ritual?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have had two kids in the greek system at UVA and yes there are fraternities which your kid can join and not be subjected to this type of hazing. He was 100% fine with anything he did as was I as his parent. He was never forced to drink or eat anything nor in any type of life threatening situation. And yes I do believe him. His chapter is especially dedicated to NOT hazing, which is why he chose it.

What you also have to know is that UVA is VERY strict about hazing.

PIKA is well known for hazing, as is Theta Chi. If you pledged there, you knew what you're getting into. Not that it excuses it, but the kids know which houses will put them through hell and which won't.

If it’s well known for hazing, why do kids choose this fraternity over other ones?

They're top tier. If you get a bid to a top-tier frat, which most people who post in these threads didn't, you put up with 8-12 weeks of hazing in exchange for 3.5 years of god status on campus and endless mixers with the hottest sororities. Top-tier frats also plug you into an amazing professional network with tons of valuable connections for finance and consulting jobs after graduation. Short-term pain, long-term gain. And 99 times out of 100, the pain isn't really pain, just mild to moderate discomfort.

That old stereotype about long term benefits, right. And if you consider white girls who bleach their hair unnatural shades of yellow and are willing to degrade themselves for attention hot then that’s the place to be.

It's not a stereotype. Compared to the general population, the percentage of CEOs, one-percenters, and even U.S. presidents who are fraternity men is exceptionally high. And if you actually spent time in a top-tier fraternity house pulling, you'd know that the teen movie trope where all sorority dimez are bleached blond bimbos is totally false.

Basically true, but I'm not sure it's a cause-and-effect. Frat members are likely wealthier and/or come from more wealthy/well-connected families. They likely lived in wealthier zip codes than the student body at large and this will typically translate to better connections after college and more money-making opportunities.

Not so much the fraternity membership granting advantage - just an advantage built-in to fraternity members.

That being said, connections are important, especially in non-technical careers. There's a reason why certain industries are full of ex-frat boys.

[Anonymous]

My DD’s ExBF graduated from UVA and was in one of those fraternities in an “executive role” all 4 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD’s ExBF graduated from UVA and was in one of those fraternities in an “executive role” all 4 years.

Your point?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DD’s ExBF graduated from UVA and was in one of those fraternities in an “executive role” all 4 years.

Your point?

Wondering if he will just live his life or be held accountable

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DD’s ExBF graduated from UVA and was in one of those fraternities in an “executive role” all 4 years.

Your point?

Wondering if he will just live his life or be held accountable

Pretty sure he’ll just live his live. It’s not like there’s a lawsuit. They just terminated that chapter at UVA. As has happened many times before with others.

[Anonymous]

“Pulled more”? Do girls in sororities use that term to describe their conquests? Sad. But ok, I guess my brother “pulled more”; I met my husband while I was at Harvard. He was not in a frat. My brother was a frat boy at the University of Pittsburgh. I visited his frat house once, and it fit the stereotype of frat culture to an almost cartoonish degree. So, yeah, I guess he “pulled more.” Party on, bro.

Mic drop.