What are the Ws?

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Anonymous wrote:When people refer to the W schools, they are generally referring to Walt Whitman, Walter Johnson, and Winston Churchill. It is a loaded term, often said disparagingly or enviously. But those three schools tend to be the high performing non-magnet public schools in Montgomery Country. Their demographics are largely white and asian. Income is high. Parents tend to be well educated and invested in their kids education. The schools are safe. They all offer the most advanced classes. Their students tend to have good college outcomes. The main downside is that the schools can feel like pressure cookers for some students since the expectations are so high.

There are high-performing cohorts at those schools just like there are at almost every MCPS HS. The real difference is a lack of poverty. W schools have <5% FARMS in a county with median shy of 40%. The reality is they have fewer low-income students dragging down their test averages which is a bit different than high-performing.

Facts seem to really bother people here.

Do they all have a FARMs rate less than 5? No. Sorry the data doesn’t support your narrative.

The school at a glance for WJ 2022-23 shows that the FARMs rate is 16%. Last time I checked 16 is less than 35 and more than 5.

Racial demographics for WJ 2022-23:
49.9% are white;
17.8% are Hispanic;
14.7% are Asian;
0.1% are American Indian/Native American; 11.2% are Black/African American;
6.2% are two or more races; and
0.1% are Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander

Last time I checked 49.9 is not all.

https://ww2.montgomerysch.../04424.pdf

The student populations are Whitman, Churchill, Wootton, and Johnson have a much higher percentage of white students and a much lower percentage of students from low-income families than the overall high school population in MCPS.

Whitman: 60.4% white, 6.9% ever FARMS
Churchill: 43.1% white, 12.6% ever FARMS
Wootton: 37.3% white, 16.1% ever FARMS
Johnson: 49.9% white, 23.4% ever FARMS

MCPS high school overall: 25.2% white, 49.8% ever FARMS

Who do you think you're fooling with this? It's so easy to check that this is false. For example, Whitman at a glance, https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

<5% FARMS

At least Churchill is 9.7% FARMS but man why do they even bother to post these lies

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Walter Johnson is 16% FARMS, which once again, is greater than 5 even if it is markedly below the county average.

The lie is that all W schools are less than 5% FARMs

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

It is very hard for people to accept the fact that Ws aren’t all white and all rich.

DP - sure. Just like it’s very hard for other people to accept the fact that there are high-performing cohorts of kids and parents highly invested in their kids at *all* MCPS high schools.

Sure. Just a lot fewer at DCC schools.

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Anonymous wrote:When people refer to the W schools, they are generally referring to Walt Whitman, Walter Johnson, and Winston Churchill. It is a loaded term, often said disparagingly or enviously. But those three schools tend to be the high performing non-magnet public schools in Montgomery Country. Their demographics are largely white and asian. Income is high. Parents tend to be well educated and invested in their kids education. The schools are safe. They all offer the most advanced classes. Their students tend to have good college outcomes. The main downside is that the schools can feel like pressure cookers for some students since the expectations are so high.

There are high-performing cohorts at those schools just like there are at almost every MCPS HS. The real difference is a lack of poverty. W schools have <5% FARMS in a county with median shy of 40%. The reality is they have fewer low-income students dragging down their test averages which is a bit different than high-performing.

Facts seem to really bother people here.

Do they all have a FARMs rate less than 5? No. Sorry the data doesn’t support your narrative.

The school at a glance for WJ 2022-23 shows that the FARMs rate is 16%. Last time I checked 16 is less than 35 and more than 5.

Racial demographics for WJ 2022-23:
49.9% are white;
17.8% are Hispanic;
14.7% are Asian;
0.1% are American Indian/Native American; 11.2% are Black/African American;
6.2% are two or more races; and
0.1% are Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander

Last time I checked 49.9 is not all.

https://ww2.montgomerysch.../04424.pdf

The student populations are Whitman, Churchill, Wootton, and Johnson have a much higher percentage of white students and a much lower percentage of students from low-income families than the overall high school population in MCPS.

Whitman: 60.4% white, 6.9% ever FARMS
Churchill: 43.1% white, 12.6% ever FARMS
Wootton: 37.3% white, 16.1% ever FARMS
Johnson: 49.9% white, 23.4% ever FARMS

MCPS high school overall: 25.2% white, 49.8% ever FARMS

Who do you think you're fooling with this? It's so easy to check that this is false. For example, Whitman at a glance, https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

<5% FARMS

At least Churchill is 9.7% FARMS but man why do they even bother to post these lies

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Walter Johnson is 16% FARMS, which once again, is greater than 5 even if it is markedly below the county average.

The lie is that all W schools are less than 5% FARMs

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

It is very hard for people to accept the fact that Ws aren’t all white and all rich.

DP - sure. Just like it’s very hard for other people to accept the fact that there are high-performing cohorts of kids and parents highly invested in their kids at *all* MCPS high schools.

Of course people accept that fact.

But acknowledging that means losing the moral superiority that comes from being an umc two fed/fed plus dc professional family that snuggly thinks they are better because they live in silver spring and send their kids to all magnets which are better anyway.

It goes around and around and around and accomplishes absolutely nothing for the actual problems we face

The moral superiority that comes from being a snuggly family

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Anonymous wrote:When people refer to the W schools, they are generally referring to Walt Whitman, Walter Johnson, and Winston Churchill. It is a loaded term, often said disparagingly or enviously. But those three schools tend to be the high performing non-magnet public schools in Montgomery Country. Their demographics are largely white and asian. Income is high. Parents tend to be well educated and invested in their kids education. The schools are safe. They all offer the most advanced classes. Their students tend to have good college outcomes. The main downside is that the schools can feel like pressure cookers for some students since the expectations are so high.

There are high-performing cohorts at those schools just like there are at almost every MCPS HS. The real difference is a lack of poverty. W schools have <5% FARMS in a county with median shy of 40%. The reality is they have fewer low-income students dragging down their test averages which is a bit different than high-performing.

Facts seem to really bother people here.

Do they all have a FARMs rate less than 5? No. Sorry the data doesn’t support your narrative.

The school at a glance for WJ 2022-23 shows that the FARMs rate is 16%. Last time I checked 16 is less than 35 and more than 5.

Racial demographics for WJ 2022-23:
49.9% are white;
17.8% are Hispanic;
14.7% are Asian;
0.1% are American Indian/Native American; 11.2% are Black/African American;
6.2% are two or more races; and
0.1% are Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander

Last time I checked 49.9 is not all.

https://ww2.montgomerysch.../04424.pdf

The student populations are Whitman, Churchill, Wootton, and Johnson have a much higher percentage of white students and a much lower percentage of students from low-income families than the overall high school population in MCPS.

Whitman: 60.4% white, 6.9% ever FARMS
Churchill: 43.1% white, 12.6% ever FARMS
Wootton: 37.3% white, 16.1% ever FARMS
Johnson: 49.9% white, 23.4% ever FARMS

MCPS high school overall: 25.2% white, 49.8% ever FARMS

Who do you think you're fooling with this? It's so easy to check that this is false. For example, Whitman at a glance, https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

<5% FARMS

At least Churchill is 9.7% FARMS but man why do they even bother to post these lies

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Walter Johnson is 16% FARMS, which once again, is greater than 5 even if it is markedly below the county average.

The lie is that all W schools are less than 5% FARMs

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

It is very hard for people to accept the fact that Ws aren’t all white and all rich.

DP - sure. Just like it’s very hard for other people to accept the fact that there are high-performing cohorts of kids and parents highly invested in their kids at *all* MCPS high schools.

Of course people accept that fact.

But acknowledging that means losing the moral superiority that comes from being an umc two fed/fed plus dc professional family that snuggly thinks they are better because they live in silver spring and send their kids to all magnets which are better anyway.

It goes around and around and around and accomplishes absolutely nothing for the actual problems we face

The moral superiority that comes from being a snuggly family

Ha that is funny but obviously it was smug not snug

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Anonymous wrote:When people refer to the W schools, they are generally referring to Walt Whitman, Walter Johnson, and Winston Churchill. It is a loaded term, often said disparagingly or enviously. But those three schools tend to be the high performing non-magnet public schools in Montgomery Country. Their demographics are largely white and asian. Income is high. Parents tend to be well educated and invested in their kids education. The schools are safe. They all offer the most advanced classes. Their students tend to have good college outcomes. The main downside is that the schools can feel like pressure cookers for some students since the expectations are so high.

There are high-performing cohorts at those schools just like there are at almost every MCPS HS. The real difference is a lack of poverty. W schools have <5% FARMS in a county with median shy of 40%. The reality is they have fewer low-income students dragging down their test averages which is a bit different than high-performing.

Facts seem to really bother people here.

Do they all have a FARMs rate less than 5? No. Sorry the data doesn’t support your narrative.

The school at a glance for WJ 2022-23 shows that the FARMs rate is 16%. Last time I checked 16 is less than 35 and more than 5.

Racial demographics for WJ 2022-23:
49.9% are white;
17.8% are Hispanic;
14.7% are Asian;
0.1% are American Indian/Native American; 11.2% are Black/African American;
6.2% are two or more races; and
0.1% are Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander

Last time I checked 49.9 is not all.

https://ww2.montgomerysch.../04424.pdf

The student populations are Whitman, Churchill, Wootton, and Johnson have a much higher percentage of white students and a much lower percentage of students from low-income families than the overall high school population in MCPS.

Whitman: 60.4% white, 6.9% ever FARMS
Churchill: 43.1% white, 12.6% ever FARMS
Wootton: 37.3% white, 16.1% ever FARMS
Johnson: 49.9% white, 23.4% ever FARMS

MCPS high school overall: 25.2% white, 49.8% ever FARMS

Who do you think you're fooling with this? It's so easy to check that this is false. For example, Whitman at a glance, https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

<5% FARMS

At least Churchill is 9.7% FARMS but man why do they even bother to post these lies

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Walter Johnson is 16% FARMS, which once again, is greater than 5 even if it is markedly below the county average.

The lie is that all W schools are less than 5% FARMs

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

It is very hard for people to accept the fact that Ws aren’t all white and all rich.

DP - sure. Just like it’s very hard for other people to accept the fact that there are high-performing cohorts of kids and parents highly invested in their kids at *all* MCPS high schools.

Sure. Just a lot fewer at DCC schools.

Not really but more FARMS kids.

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Anonymous wrote:When people refer to the W schools, they are generally referring to Walt Whitman, Walter Johnson, and Winston Churchill. It is a loaded term, often said disparagingly or enviously. But those three schools tend to be the high performing non-magnet public schools in Montgomery Country. Their demographics are largely white and asian. Income is high. Parents tend to be well educated and invested in their kids education. The schools are safe. They all offer the most advanced classes. Their students tend to have good college outcomes. The main downside is that the schools can feel like pressure cookers for some students since the expectations are so high.

There are high-performing cohorts at those schools just like there are at almost every MCPS HS. The real difference is a lack of poverty. W schools have <5% FARMS in a county with median shy of 40%. The reality is they have fewer low-income students dragging down their test averages which is a bit different than high-performing.

Facts seem to really bother people here.

Do they all have a FARMs rate less than 5? No. Sorry the data doesn’t support your narrative.

The school at a glance for WJ 2022-23 shows that the FARMs rate is 16%. Last time I checked 16 is less than 35 and more than 5.

Racial demographics for WJ 2022-23:
49.9% are white;
17.8% are Hispanic;
14.7% are Asian;
0.1% are American Indian/Native American; 11.2% are Black/African American;
6.2% are two or more races; and
0.1% are Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander

Last time I checked 49.9 is not all.

https://ww2.montgomerysch.../04424.pdf

The student populations are Whitman, Churchill, Wootton, and Johnson have a much higher percentage of white students and a much lower percentage of students from low-income families than the overall high school population in MCPS.

Whitman: 60.4% white, 6.9% ever FARMS
Churchill: 43.1% white, 12.6% ever FARMS
Wootton: 37.3% white, 16.1% ever FARMS
Johnson: 49.9% white, 23.4% ever FARMS

MCPS high school overall: 25.2% white, 49.8% ever FARMS

Correct.

Higher percentage of white is not “all white”

Lower percentage of ever FARMS is not “all rich”

These schools have the least AA and Hispanic students of anywhere in MCPS. People call them the segregated schools not just because of all the racial problems.

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Anonymous wrote:When people refer to the W schools, they are generally referring to Walt Whitman, Walter Johnson, and Winston Churchill. It is a loaded term, often said disparagingly or enviously. But those three schools tend to be the high performing non-magnet public schools in Montgomery Country. Their demographics are largely white and asian. Income is high. Parents tend to be well educated and invested in their kids education. The schools are safe. They all offer the most advanced classes. Their students tend to have good college outcomes. The main downside is that the schools can feel like pressure cookers for some students since the expectations are so high.

There are high-performing cohorts at those schools just like there are at almost every MCPS HS. The real difference is a lack of poverty. W schools have <5% FARMS in a county with median shy of 40%. The reality is they have fewer low-income students dragging down their test averages which is a bit different than high-performing.

Facts seem to really bother people here.

Do they all have a FARMs rate less than 5? No. Sorry the data doesn’t support your narrative.

The school at a glance for WJ 2022-23 shows that the FARMs rate is 16%. Last time I checked 16 is less than 35 and more than 5.

Racial demographics for WJ 2022-23:
49.9% are white;
17.8% are Hispanic;
14.7% are Asian;
0.1% are American Indian/Native American; 11.2% are Black/African American;
6.2% are two or more races; and
0.1% are Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander

Last time I checked 49.9 is not all.

https://ww2.montgomerysch.../04424.pdf

The student populations are Whitman, Churchill, Wootton, and Johnson have a much higher percentage of white students and a much lower percentage of students from low-income families than the overall high school population in MCPS.

Whitman: 60.4% white, 6.9% ever FARMS
Churchill: 43.1% white, 12.6% ever FARMS
Wootton: 37.3% white, 16.1% ever FARMS
Johnson: 49.9% white, 23.4% ever FARMS

MCPS high school overall: 25.2% white, 49.8% ever FARMS

Who do you think you're fooling with this? It's so easy to check that this is false. For example, Whitman at a glance, https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

<5% FARMS

At least Churchill is 9.7% FARMS but man why do they even bother to post these lies

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Walter Johnson is 16% FARMS, which once again, is greater than 5 even if it is markedly below the county average.

The lie is that all W schools are less than 5% FARMs

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

Most of them are and the few that aren't are far below the county's mean of 35%. They are also the least diverse schools in MCPS.

Isn't Kennedy the least diverse school?

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Anonymous wrote:When people refer to the W schools, they are generally referring to Walt Whitman, Walter Johnson, and Winston Churchill. It is a loaded term, often said disparagingly or enviously. But those three schools tend to be the high performing non-magnet public schools in Montgomery Country. Their demographics are largely white and asian. Income is high. Parents tend to be well educated and invested in their kids education. The schools are safe. They all offer the most advanced classes. Their students tend to have good college outcomes. The main downside is that the schools can feel like pressure cookers for some students since the expectations are so high.

There are high-performing cohorts at those schools just like there are at almost every MCPS HS. The real difference is a lack of poverty. W schools have <5% FARMS in a county with median shy of 40%. The reality is they have fewer low-income students dragging down their test averages which is a bit different than high-performing.

Facts seem to really bother people here.

Do they all have a FARMs rate less than 5? No. Sorry the data doesn’t support your narrative.

The school at a glance for WJ 2022-23 shows that the FARMs rate is 16%. Last time I checked 16 is less than 35 and more than 5.

Racial demographics for WJ 2022-23:
49.9% are white;
17.8% are Hispanic;
14.7% are Asian;
0.1% are American Indian/Native American; 11.2% are Black/African American;
6.2% are two or more races; and
0.1% are Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander

Last time I checked 49.9 is not all.

https://ww2.montgomerysch.../04424.pdf

The student populations are Whitman, Churchill, Wootton, and Johnson have a much higher percentage of white students and a much lower percentage of students from low-income families than the overall high school population in MCPS.

Whitman: 60.4% white, 6.9% ever FARMS
Churchill: 43.1% white, 12.6% ever FARMS
Wootton: 37.3% white, 16.1% ever FARMS
Johnson: 49.9% white, 23.4% ever FARMS

MCPS high school overall: 25.2% white, 49.8% ever FARMS

Who do you think you're fooling with this? It's so easy to check that this is false. For example, Whitman at a glance, https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

<5% FARMS

At least Churchill is 9.7% FARMS but man why do they even bother to post these lies

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Walter Johnson is 16% FARMS, which once again, is greater than 5 even if it is markedly below the county average.

The lie is that all W schools are less than 5% FARMs

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

Most of them are and the few that aren't are far below the county's mean of 35%. They are also the least diverse schools in MCPS.

Isn't Kennedy the least diverse school?

I think Kennedy may be tied with Whitman, but if they could merge them it might be as diverse as Blair!

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Anonymous wrote:When people refer to the W schools, they are generally referring to Walt Whitman, Walter Johnson, and Winston Churchill. It is a loaded term, often said disparagingly or enviously. But those three schools tend to be the high performing non-magnet public schools in Montgomery Country. Their demographics are largely white and asian. Income is high. Parents tend to be well educated and invested in their kids education. The schools are safe. They all offer the most advanced classes. Their students tend to have good college outcomes. The main downside is that the schools can feel like pressure cookers for some students since the expectations are so high.

There are high-performing cohorts at those schools just like there are at almost every MCPS HS. The real difference is a lack of poverty. W schools have <5% FARMS in a county with median shy of 40%. The reality is they have fewer low-income students dragging down their test averages which is a bit different than high-performing.

Facts seem to really bother people here.

Do they all have a FARMs rate less than 5? No. Sorry the data doesn’t support your narrative.

The school at a glance for WJ 2022-23 shows that the FARMs rate is 16%. Last time I checked 16 is less than 35 and more than 5.

Racial demographics for WJ 2022-23:
49.9% are white;
17.8% are Hispanic;
14.7% are Asian;
0.1% are American Indian/Native American; 11.2% are Black/African American;
6.2% are two or more races; and
0.1% are Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander

Last time I checked 49.9 is not all.

https://ww2.montgomerysch.../04424.pdf

The student populations are Whitman, Churchill, Wootton, and Johnson have a much higher percentage of white students and a much lower percentage of students from low-income families than the overall high school population in MCPS.

Whitman: 60.4% white, 6.9% ever FARMS
Churchill: 43.1% white, 12.6% ever FARMS
Wootton: 37.3% white, 16.1% ever FARMS
Johnson: 49.9% white, 23.4% ever FARMS

MCPS high school overall: 25.2% white, 49.8% ever FARMS

Who do you think you're fooling with this? It's so easy to check that this is false. For example, Whitman at a glance, https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

<5% FARMS

At least Churchill is 9.7% FARMS but man why do they even bother to post these lies

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04427.pdf

Walter Johnson is 16% FARMS, which once again, is greater than 5 even if it is markedly below the county average.

The lie is that all W schools are less than 5% FARMs

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04424.pdf

It is very hard for people to accept the fact that Ws aren’t all white and all rich.

DP - sure. Just like it’s very hard for other people to accept the fact that there are high-performing cohorts of kids and parents highly invested in their kids at *all* MCPS high schools.

Sure. Just a lot fewer at DCC schools.

Not really but more FARMS kids.

Early PP - exactly. The "a lot fewer" thing is yet another incorrect assumption about the make-up of non-W school communities.