What are the Ws?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ws are traditionally the MCPS high schools near-ish Bethesda that have higher SES and perform well.

They are:
- Walt Whitman
- Winston Churchill
- Walter Johnson
- Wootton
- maybe Woodward will be one when it opens because it's in the middle of all of these, but who knows

These are the schools where a huge proportion of the class has an outstanding GPA, the graduation rates are high, the family investment in education is high, and the extracurriculars about. Most are primarily populated by White and Asian students. Most will go on to "a good college."

BCC is also a good school and pulls from a higher SES demographic. But it has "uniquely urban" problems that the above schools do not, so it's not really a W. We send our kid to one of the above but I wouldn't hesitate to send my kid to BCC and when we were looking for houses a few years ago when they were in MS we looked in the BCC pyramid.

The expectations of excellence aren't limited to the families. Those schools are run by administrators who value education and expect excellence from each child no matter their familial background, economic status, special needs, etc.
Can't speak to bcc but there is a glaring difference in how students are supported at W schools and non.

Excellence? No, that's inequitable. Non-criminal behavior? Usually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ws are traditionally the MCPS high schools near-ish Bethesda that have higher SES and perform well.

They are:
- Walt Whitman
- Winston Churchill
- Walter Johnson
- Wootton
- maybe Woodward will be one when it opens because it's in the middle of all of these, but who knows

These are the schools where a huge proportion of the class has an outstanding GPA, the graduation rates are high, the family investment in education is high, and the extracurriculars about. Most are primarily populated by White and Asian students. Most will go on to "a good college."

BCC is also a good school and pulls from a higher SES demographic. But it has "uniquely urban" problems that the above schools do not, so it's not really a W. We send our kid to one of the above but I wouldn't hesitate to send my kid to BCC and when we were looking for houses a few years ago when they were in MS we looked in the BCC pyramid.

The expectations of excellence aren't limited to the families. Those schools are run by administrators who value education and expect excellence from each child no matter their familial background, economic status, special needs, etc.
Can't speak to bcc but there is a glaring difference in how students are supported at W schools and non.

Whereas in the Ganglandia schools, all of the administrators hate education and expect each child to fail no matter their familial background, economic status, special needs, etc.!

Or something.

Snort. As a Ganglandia parent, I find the characterization of our schools by parents who don't live here to be laughable. And the W parents are supposed to be the smart ones? Pffft.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What posters always forget are Wheaton HS and Watkins Woodward HS when it opens will be another W. Don't forget the B schools: Blair, Branch, B-CC

Johnson and Churchill are not W schools either.

Walter Johnson and Winston Churchill?

If you want to alphabetize by first names, then Thomas Wootton is not a W school, and Charles Woodward will also not be a W school. But Wheaton and Watkins Mill still are W schools.

Wheaton and Watkins Mill are W schools but are not "W" schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ws are traditionally the MCPS high schools near-ish Bethesda that have higher SES and perform well.

They are:
- Walt Whitman
- Winston Churchill
- Walter Johnson
- Wootton
- maybe Woodward will be one when it opens because it's in the middle of all of these, but who knows

These are the schools where a huge proportion of the class has an outstanding GPA, the graduation rates are high, the family investment in education is high, and the extracurriculars about. Most are primarily populated by White and Asian students. Most will go on to "a good college."

BCC is also a good school and pulls from a higher SES demographic. But it has "uniquely urban" problems that the above schools do not, so it's not really a W. We send our kid to one of the above but I wouldn't hesitate to send my kid to BCC and when we were looking for houses a few years ago when they were in MS we looked in the BCC pyramid.

The expectations of excellence aren't limited to the families. Those schools are run by administrators who value education and expect excellence from each child no matter their familial background, economic status, special needs, etc.
Can't speak to bcc but there is a glaring difference in how students are supported at W schools and non.

Whereas in the Ganglandia schools, all of the administrators hate education and expect each child to fail no matter their familial background, economic status, special needs, etc.!

Or something.

Snort. As a Ganglandia parent, I find the characterization of our schools by parents who don't live here to be laughable. And the W parents are supposed to be the smart ones? Pffft.

Do you speak that way in real life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What posters always forget are Wheaton HS and Watkins Woodward HS when it opens will be another W. Don't forget the B schools: Blair, Branch, B-CC

Johnson and Churchill are not W schools either.

Walter Johnson and Winston Churchill?

If you want to alphabetize by first names, then Thomas Wootton is not a W school, and Charles Woodward will also not be a W school. But Wheaton and Watkins Mill still are W schools.

Wheaton and Watkins Mill are W schools but are not "W" schools

Of course they are. Starts with a "W"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ws are traditionally the MCPS high schools near-ish Bethesda that have higher SES and perform well.

They are:
- Walt Whitman
- Winston Churchill
- Walter Johnson
- Wootton
- maybe Woodward will be one when it opens because it's in the middle of all of these, but who knows

These are the schools where a huge proportion of the class has an outstanding GPA, the graduation rates are high, the family investment in education is high, and the extracurriculars about. Most are primarily populated by White and Asian students. Most will go on to "a good college."

BCC is also a good school and pulls from a higher SES demographic. But it has "uniquely urban" problems that the above schools do not, so it's not really a W. We send our kid to one of the above but I wouldn't hesitate to send my kid to BCC and when we were looking for houses a few years ago when they were in MS we looked in the BCC pyramid.

The expectations of excellence aren't limited to the families. Those schools are run by administrators who value education and expect excellence from each child no matter their familial background, economic status, special needs, etc.
Can't speak to bcc but there is a glaring difference in how students are supported at W schools and non.

Whereas in the Ganglandia schools, all of the administrators hate education and expect each child to fail no matter their familial background, economic status, special needs, etc.!

Or something.

Snort. As a Ganglandia parent, I find the characterization of our schools by parents who don't live here to be laughable. And the W parents are supposed to be the smart ones? Pffft.

Do you speak that way in real life?

Do you consistently avoid the point of a comment, so you don't have to respond?

Quoting from earlier in this thread: "The expectations of excellence aren't limited to the families. Those schools are run by administrators who value education and expect excellence from each child no matter their familial background, economic status, special needs, etc.
Can't speak to bcc but there is a glaring difference in how students are supported at W schools and non."

The above is judgmental, inaccurate, and offensive. It belies the assertion that families in W school communities are intellectually superior to those in "Ganglandia." It's embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

No one cares. Live where you can or want.

[Anonymous]

Interesting not to see folks relate the W schools with the other W…. White. Whitman, Walter Johnson are some of the least diverse schools in the system. BCC has at least a little more diversity in part driven by a high number of diplomats in the capture area as well as apartment dwellers. It also has the IB program

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting not to see folks relate the W schools with the other W…. White. Whitman, Walter Johnson are some of the least diverse schools in the system. BCC has at least a little more diversity in part driven by a high number of diplomats in the capture area as well as apartment dwellers. It also has the IB program

Multiple people have already said this. It's been mentioned and discussed on every page of this three page topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting not to see folks relate the W schools with the other W…. White. Whitman, Walter Johnson are some of the least diverse schools in the system. BCC has at least a little more diversity in part driven by a high number of diplomats in the capture area as well as apartment dwellers. It also has the IB program

Multiple people have already said this. It's been mentioned and discussed on every page of this three page topic.

Exactly. Read the comments especially when there are only a few pages in a thread as opposed to top threads of the day which can be 40+ pages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one cares. Live where you can or want.

^ truth

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one cares. Live where you can or want.

All schools have a high achieving cohort and offer similar opportunities. The only thing that's unique about the W's are a lack of diversity and too many racial incidents.

[Anonymous]

historically...

https://ggwash.org/view/31601/de-facto-segregation-threatens-montgomery-public-schools

6 top-ranked high schools contain a plurality of the county’s white students: Sherwood, Bethesda-Chevy Chase, and the vaunted “W schools,” Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Walt Whitman and Thomas Wootton. We’ll call these the “Top White” schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:historically...

https://ggwash.org/view/31601/de-facto-segregation-threatens-montgomery-public-schools

6 top-ranked high schools contain a plurality of the county’s white students: Sherwood, Bethesda-Chevy Chase, and the vaunted “W schools,” Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Walt Whitman and Thomas Wootton. We’ll call these the “Top White” schools.

Yes, these schools also all have <5% FARMS in a county that averages 35%+ FARMS, and they seem a lot less diverse than other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:historically...

https://ggwash.org/view/31601/de-facto-segregation-threatens-montgomery-public-schools

6 top-ranked high schools contain a plurality of the county’s white students: Sherwood, Bethesda-Chevy Chase, and the vaunted “W schools,” Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Walt Whitman and Thomas Wootton. We’ll call these the “Top White” schools.

Yes, these schools also all have <5% FARMS in a county that averages 35%+ FARMS, and they seem a lot less diverse than other schools.

Do they all have a FARMs rate less than 5? No. Sorry the data doesn’t support your narrative.

The data is available online so you don’t need to make vague characterizations like WJ is “not diverse”. Are there schools with more black and Hispanic kids? Yes of course. Is it all white and not diverse? No.

The school at a glance for WJ 2022-23 shows that the FARMs rate is 16%. Last time I checked 16 is less than 35 and more than 5.

Racial demographics for WJ 2022-23:
49.9% are white;
17.8% are Hispanic;
14.7% are Asian;
0.1% are American Indian/Native American; 11.2% are Black/African American;
6.2% are two or more races; and
0.1% are Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander

Last time I checked 49.9 is not all.

https://ww2.montgomerysch.../04424.pdf