Parents want kids to have their cell phones in class WTAF

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with all the reasons why phones in school are bad, but for me it’s a matter of safety. School shootings don’t cross my mind, but of course, what a horror. Uvalde is case in point. My kid takes metro 40 mins away for school, and ranges around after school. It’s important that she’s reachable and I can track her.

Uvalde is sadly a case study in how useless phones were for the kids that had them even in an emergency, and they did absolutely nothing to improve their safety.

That's entirely separate from saying you want your kid to have a phone on the way to/from school, and nobody is arguing against that.

There's simply no reason your child needs to be "reachable" directly via cellphone during instructional hours. They can put them away for the day via whatever method the schools want to implement, and your child will be no more/less safe (well, more safe from a learning and mental health perspective perhaps), and it won't impact your ability to track your child in transit or while ranging around after school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we go natural consequences here? Don’t pay attention? Get bad grades. No makeups, redos, or 50% floor grades.

Seems like a good solution to me!

Because student A having their phone out in class is disruptive to everyone around them. It's the same reason people don't want their kids spending all day in a classroom with a student who regularly has violent emotional outbursts, etc. It's not that they don't have compassion for the other kid, but that they want their own child to have an appropriate learning environment as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we go natural consequences here? Don’t pay attention? Get bad grades. No makeups, redos, or 50% floor grades.

Seems like a good solution to me!

Because student A having their phone out in class is disruptive to everyone around them. It's the same reason people don't want their kids spending all day in a classroom with a student who regularly has violent emotional outbursts, etc. It's not that they don't have compassion for the other kid, but that they want their own child to have an appropriate learning environment as well.

My child listening to her music with airpods during independent work is not disrupting your child in any way. She is a straight A honors student and I see no reason she can't keep her phone as long as she isn't disrupting others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we go natural consequences here? Don’t pay attention? Get bad grades. No makeups, redos, or 50% floor grades.

Seems like a good solution to me!

Because student A having their phone out in class is disruptive to everyone around them. It's the same reason people don't want their kids spending all day in a classroom with a student who regularly has violent emotional outbursts, etc. It's not that they don't have compassion for the other kid, but that they want their own child to have an appropriate learning environment as well.

My child listening to her music with airpods during independent work is not disrupting your child in any way. She is a straight A honors student and I see no reason she can't keep her phone as long as she isn't disrupting others.

The reason is that it's against the rules.

Even if she's a straight A student, the rules still apply to her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we go natural consequences here? Don’t pay attention? Get bad grades. No makeups, redos, or 50% floor grades.

Seems like a good solution to me!

Because student A having their phone out in class is disruptive to everyone around them. It's the same reason people don't want their kids spending all day in a classroom with a student who regularly has violent emotional outbursts, etc. It's not that they don't have compassion for the other kid, but that they want their own child to have an appropriate learning environment as well.

My child listening to her music with airpods during independent work is not disrupting your child in any way. She is a straight A honors student and I see no reason she can't keep her phone as long as she isn't disrupting others.

The reason is that it's against the rules.

Even if she's a straight A student, the rules still apply to her.

Some of her teachers allow it. She knows the rules apply to her and she complies.

But the topic of the post was not “what are the rules?” - the topic of the post is why are some parents fine with phones, and I’m telling you why.

Saying my kid having her phone distracts your kid is like saying girls can’t wear tank tops because it distracts boys. Not my kid’s problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are some parents who have a ton of anxiety about their kids not being reachable during the school day. Not many but a significant and loud minority.

You also have extreme entitlement about how if the parents have a phone then the kid should have it at all times even if the kid is using it to make tijtoks at school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we go natural consequences here? Don’t pay attention? Get bad grades. No makeups, redos, or 50% floor grades.

Seems like a good solution to me!

Because student A having their phone out in class is disruptive to everyone around them. It's the same reason people don't want their kids spending all day in a classroom with a student who regularly has violent emotional outbursts, etc. It's not that they don't have compassion for the other kid, but that they want their own child to have an appropriate learning environment as well.

My child listening to her music with airpods during independent work is not disrupting your child in any way. She is a straight A honors student and I see no reason she can't keep her phone as long as she isn't disrupting others.

The reason is that it's against the rules.

Even if she's a straight A student, the rules still apply to her.

Some of her teachers allow it. She knows the rules apply to her and she complies.

But the topic of the post was not “what are the rules?” - the topic of the post is why are some parents fine with phones, and I’m telling you why.

Saying my kid having her phone distracts your kid is like saying girls can’t wear tank tops because it distracts boys. Not my kid’s problem.

Your lack of civic spirit is a problem for all of us. Yay society.

[Anonymous]

Way to gaslight! My child doesn’t owe your child “civic spirit” at school. She’s not a politician or civil servant. She is a student, there to learn, which she is doing.

Mind your own child, I’ll mind mine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Way to gaslight! My child doesn’t owe your child “civic spirit” at school. She’s not a politician or civil servant. She is a student, there to learn, which she is doing.

Mind your own child, I’ll mind mine.

All students are part of a classroom. All (most) people are part of a community.

America prizes independence and values the individual. We used to also value the community but some seem to reject that nowadays. And it shows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Way to gaslight! My child doesn’t owe your child “civic spirit” at school. She’s not a politician or civil servant. She is a student, there to learn, which she is doing.

Mind your own child, I’ll mind mine.

It is rude! We aren’t allowed to have phones out in a movie theater because it is distracting to others trying to enjoy the movie. Yes, the actions of other impact us all. So yes, phones are a distraction and that is why as a society we should put them away when appropriate - such as in school.

You don’t want a bunch of uneducated people walking around? Let the kids learn without distraction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Way to gaslight! My child doesn’t owe your child “civic spirit” at school. She’s not a politician or civil servant. She is a student, there to learn, which she is doing.

Mind your own child, I’ll mind mine.

There was a really interesting interview with the surgeon general. One issue with social media/phones is the potential harm kids find on various platforms. And equal issue is kids forgetting how to socialize, interact, live with one another. Rules are getting made for these reasons so it may not be a matter of each of us peronally minding our own child (while they are sitting in public school spaces).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we go natural consequences here? Don’t pay attention? Get bad grades. No makeups, redos, or 50% floor grades.

Seems like a good solution to me!

Because student A having their phone out in class is disruptive to everyone around them. It's the same reason people don't want their kids spending all day in a classroom with a student who regularly has violent emotional outbursts, etc. It's not that they don't have compassion for the other kid, but that they want their own child to have an appropriate learning environment as well.

My child listening to her music with airpods during independent work is not disrupting your child in any way. She is a straight A honors student and I see no reason she can't keep her phone as long as she isn't disrupting others.

The reason is that it's against the rules.

Even if she's a straight A student, the rules still apply to her.

Some of her teachers allow it. She knows the rules apply to her and she complies.

But the topic of the post was not “what are the rules?” - the topic of the post is why are some parents fine with phones, and I’m telling you why.

Saying my kid having her phone distracts your kid is like saying girls can’t wear tank tops because it distracts boys. Not my kid’s problem.

I’m a high school teacher. Yes, it is distracting to her neighbors. Trust me: her neighbors can hear what she’s playing on her AirPods. How do I know? Because I’ve tried allowing students to listen to music independently in class. It almost always ends with having to tell multiple students to turn their music down because others have complained.

Also, she’s now training her brain to need music during independent work. That’s going to be detrimental on AP exams, the SAT, etc. I’ve had to deal with angry students and parents who think they should be able to wear AirPods during testing, too. “But this is how I work best!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Way to gaslight! My child doesn’t owe your child “civic spirit” at school. She’s not a politician or civil servant. She is a student, there to learn, which she is doing.

Mind your own child, I’ll mind mine.

There was a really interesting interview with the surgeon general. One issue with social media/phones is the potential harm kids find on various platforms. And equal issue is kids forgetting how to socialize, interact, live with one another. Rules are getting made for these reasons so it may not be a matter of each of us peronally minding our own child (while they are sitting in public school spaces).

Please stop trying to pretend that there are behavioral expectations and social norms in public school! There are not ans kids who do behave and want to learn are forced to cope any way they can and teachers and administrators do not care about them! My daughter can’t even use the bathroom when she needs!

And she’s already taken the SAT and we’re good thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t we go natural consequences here? Don’t pay attention? Get bad grades. No makeups, redos, or 50% floor grades.

Seems like a good solution to me!

Because student A having their phone out in class is disruptive to everyone around them. It's the same reason people don't want their kids spending all day in a classroom with a student who regularly has violent emotional outbursts, etc. It's not that they don't have compassion for the other kid, but that they want their own child to have an appropriate learning environment as well.

My child listening to her music with airpods during independent work is not disrupting your child in any way. She is a straight A honors student and I see no reason she can't keep her phone as long as she isn't disrupting others.

The reason is that it's against the rules.

Even if she's a straight A student, the rules still apply to her.

Some of her teachers allow it. She knows the rules apply to her and she complies.

But the topic of the post was not “what are the rules?” - the topic of the post is why are some parents fine with phones, and I’m telling you why.

Saying my kid having her phone distracts your kid is like saying girls can’t wear tank tops because it distracts boys. Not my kid’s problem.

No, saying girls can't wear tank tops because it distracts boys treats a girls body like some kind of device designed to distract teenage boys when it's actually just her freaking body.

Meanwhile smart phones are literally a device designed to distract teenage boys, teenage girls, toddlers, middle aged people, grandmas, and pets.

So no, these are not the same things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Strange - all the MS parents I know are thrilled our school has a no cell phone policy and locks them away.

Who’s going to tell them? (That they gave their children those devices in the first place).