Parents want kids to have their cell phones in class WTAF

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Anonymous wrote:This thread amazes me. I always thought DCUM had a more educated clientele than average, but those supporting phones in schools is shocking.

Don’t conflate rich and educated. Plenty of wealthy people in my neighborhood who dgaf about their kid’s actual education… they seem to care more about talking about travel soccer and engineering their child’s social life.

Well, the path to wealth and success is networking and attractiveness, as long as you make baseline education — networking and charm and a good golf game is way more valuable for most careers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread amazes me. I always thought DCUM had a more educated clientele than average, but those supporting phones in schools is shocking.

Don’t conflate rich and educated. Plenty of wealthy people in my neighborhood who dgaf about their kid’s actual education… they seem to care more about talking about travel soccer and engineering their child’s social life.

Well, the path to wealth and success is networking and attractiveness, as long as you make baseline education — networking and charm and a good golf game is way more valuable for most careers.

Right...

Becoming a phone zombie like so many kids these days are, will prevent your kid from learning how to network well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like being able to communicate with my kid during the day. Make your own decision but don't then go to the school and force your decision on me.

Why? Why do you need to talk or text with them during the hours of school instruction?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does your work make you leave cell phones home

Not necessarily home, but some jobs do require they be left in lockers or in a phone jail in managers office because some people cannot self regulate and would waste company time on the phone

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.economist.com/united-states/2024/06/06/american-parents-want-their-children-to-have-phones-in-schools

Are we all that terrified of a school shooting? Not only that, a ringing phone could give away a hiding position, so even in that use case it’s a liability…

Yes, I think that many parents I know are that terrified of a school shooting. It doesn't matter if it's rational or not.

It does if we're going to make policy around it.

Still doesn't matter if it's rational or not. We make policy about irrational fears all of the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’d like to be available to them if something awful does happen. That said I prefer it’s put away during class.

It’s a reality that kids are killed in school. Way too damn often.

The kids are in WAY for danger when you are driving them to soccer practice.

It doesn't matter. Covid should have shown you that no one understands relative risk.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread amazes me. I always thought DCUM had a more educated clientele than average, but those supporting phones in schools is shocking.

Don’t conflate rich and educated. Plenty of wealthy people in my neighborhood who dgaf about their kid’s actual education… they seem to care more about talking about travel soccer and engineering their child’s social life.

This. Ask any middle or high school teacher. There are plenty of UMC, non-special education students who can't read an analogue clock, don't know their multiplication facts with any kind of fluency, and cannot write a coherent paragraph with paper and pencil. Their parents will fight to the death their kid's right to have a cell phone in class though and defend 5-6 hours of screen time during the school day as no big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like being able to communicate with my kid during the day. Make your own decision but don't then go to the school and force your decision on me.

Your "like" is unnecessary and carries no weight. You have no need to communicate with your child during the day. If your desire to close to your kid 24/7 is so intense, then homeschool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like being able to communicate with my kid during the day. Make your own decision but don't then go to the school and force your decision on me.

You are aware that the front office has a phone that you can call if you need to reach your child?

The primary proposals I'm hearing are to require keeping phones in the locker or something locked away during the day. That way parents can contact students before and after school hours. I find that completely reasonable.

[Anonymous]

I'm a teacher and 95% of the time students are on their phones they are not communicating with their parents. It's youtube, tiktok, taking photos of friends, and games. When students do "have" to talk to parents, they act like it's the biggest emergency ever when it's usually the parent asking where they will be after school, what a form from the school means, etc. And it's during class instruction! I can either stop instruction to argue with them or pretend I don't see it and accept that it sets a precedent for other kids.

I am glad to see that a lot of parents here are in favor of phones being put away during school hours. I do wish that schools would put their feet down and just let parents be mad and make a fuss. Phones are terrible for students' education and that's the one job of schools: educating students.

[Anonymous]

Lotta dumb parents.

Kids were able to go to school just fine for hundreds of years before the advent of cellphones. They learned better back then too.


This is the problem when you have stupid people breeding. They produce lots of stupid kids and demand stupid ideas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Besides the distraction from learning and the toxic effects of social media, doesn’t having cell phones on kids in school massively increase the likelihood of violence (so it can be posted on Tik Tok) and other disruptive behaviors? No camera in the pocket, no reason to act the fool - at least on school grounds.

Yes, it does. And this happened at my child's middle school and phones during the school day are now banned. I am one of those people who fears a school shooter and was against the ban at first. But now at the end of the year, I can tell you that it has greatly decreased behavioral issues at the school and even my child said that there is so much less drama this year. There are valid arguments on both sides but I have really changed my mind about phones in schools after seeing how well it worked this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, because some of us have kids in after school and other activities and need to coordinate. Schools don't have pay phones like ours did growing up. Unfortunately its a necessity at times.

This is an excuse for lazy planning.

[Anonymous]

I felt this way too until our kid's school went on lockdown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, because some of us have kids in after school and other activities and need to coordinate. Schools don't have pay phones like ours did growing up. Unfortunately its a necessity at times.

This is an excuse for lazy planning.

Not really. 80% of the time I can be where I say I am going to be at the time I say I can. 20% of the time I have a meeting that runs long or something at work that requires me to pivot time/place of pickup or ask my kid to walk home or find another way. Imagine that not everyone has the same work or life circumstances!