Went to music festival on MDW and saw more Palestinian flags than US flags

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a music festival this past weekend in the U.S. and it was striking - tons of Gen Z kids wearing keffiyahs and waving Palestinian flags. In fact, I didn't see a single US flag being waved at the event except on official flagpoles (the festival was held on government-owned property).

There were people of all age ranges at this festival and it was striking. Only the Gen Z kids were wearing this stuff and carrying these flags. In fact, it almost seems like a fashion trend - white girls wearing watermelon earrings, wearing keffiyahs & free Gaza tshirts. It was utterly bizarre to see young kids decked out in pro-Palestine clothing and then dancing to music.

I know the bombing this past weekend was horrific. But it all seemed extremely performative.

To be clear - the vast majority of attendees at the music festival were not doing any of this. But there definitely seems to be a strong undercurrent of Palestinian cosplay among very young Americans.

I am so sorry a few kids waving Palestinian flags and wearing Keffiyehs triggered you so much. Do the 30,000 dead civilian bodies and beheaded babies upset you as well?

Maybe show some compassion and be proud of the fact that Gen Z is speaking up for a population that has historically and consistently been abused by the Israelis. And they definitely are more well informed than you about this conflict.

+1000.

I also love when the pro Israelis mock TikTok as if they didn’t start with TikTok war propaganda and journalism . Gen Z Americans weren’t concerned with Gaza until Gen Z Israeli soldiers started posting.

Apparently they’re not concerned with Syria or Ukraine or elsewhere in the world where genocide is happening. What is it about Israel that sets them off?

Jews. It's Jews.
I've heard plenty of people say that they're glad that this war is happening because they can finally say what they've always thought about Jews.

I'm sorry that you feel that way. I think it's because of the US involvement. We aren't spending billions of dollars to support Russia et al in their wars, and the Ukrainian war has been longer with fewer fatalities. People were, and have been, outraged by 10/7. There would also be protests in the streets if Hamas was killing Israelis at the same rate or denying them food and water. The US also wouldn't be funding actual terrorists. I know the antisemitism seems outsized, but I hope you realize that to many people want peace. Killing rampages is rarely the answer, which we learned on 10/7. Hamas was disgusting and wrong. Israel's outsized reaction is harming citizens and is not furthering peace and stability.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a music festival this past weekend in the U.S. and it was striking - tons of Gen Z kids wearing keffiyahs and waving Palestinian flags. In fact, I didn't see a single US flag being waved at the event except on official flagpoles (the festival was held on government-owned property).

There were people of all age ranges at this festival and it was striking. Only the Gen Z kids were wearing this stuff and carrying these flags. In fact, it almost seems like a fashion trend - white girls wearing watermelon earrings, wearing keffiyahs & free Gaza tshirts. It was utterly bizarre to see young kids decked out in pro-Palestine clothing and then dancing to music.

I know the bombing this past weekend was horrific. But it all seemed extremely performative.

To be clear - the vast majority of attendees at the music festival were not doing any of this. But there definitely seems to be a strong undercurrent of Palestinian cosplay among very young Americans.

I am so sorry a few kids waving Palestinian flags and wearing Keffiyehs triggered you so much. Do the 30,000 dead civilian bodies and beheaded babies upset you as well?

Maybe show some compassion and be proud of the fact that Gen Z is speaking up for a population that has historically and consistently been abused by the Israelis. And they definitely are more well informed than you about this conflict.

+1000.

I also love when the pro Israelis mock TikTok as if they didn’t start with TikTok war propaganda and journalism . Gen Z Americans weren’t concerned with Gaza until Gen Z Israeli soldiers started posting.

Apparently they’re not concerned with Syria or Ukraine or elsewhere in the world where genocide is happening. What is it about Israel that sets them off?

Jews. It's Jews.
I've heard plenty of people say that they're glad that this war is happening because they can finally say what they've always thought about Jews.

I'm sorry that you feel that way. I think it's because of the US involvement. We aren't spending billions of dollars to support Russia et al in their wars, and the Ukrainian war has been longer with fewer fatalities. People were, and have been, outraged by 10/7. There would also be protests in the streets if Hamas was killing Israelis at the same rate or denying them food and water. The US also wouldn't be funding actual terrorists. I know the antisemitism seems outsized, but I hope you realize that to many people want peace. Killing rampages is rarely the answer, which we learned on 10/7. Hamas was disgusting and wrong. Israel's outsized reaction is harming citizens and is not furthering peace and stability.

Then people should direct their anger toward their representatives and invest their effort in ending US involvement. Then you really can't be any more bothered by Israel than Sudan or China or Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a music festival this past weekend in the U.S. and it was striking - tons of Gen Z kids wearing keffiyahs and waving Palestinian flags. In fact, I didn't see a single US flag being waved at the event except on official flagpoles (the festival was held on government-owned property).

There were people of all age ranges at this festival and it was striking. Only the Gen Z kids were wearing this stuff and carrying these flags. In fact, it almost seems like a fashion trend - white girls wearing watermelon earrings, wearing keffiyahs & free Gaza tshirts. It was utterly bizarre to see young kids decked out in pro-Palestine clothing and then dancing to music.

I know the bombing this past weekend was horrific. But it all seemed extremely performative.

To be clear - the vast majority of attendees at the music festival were not doing any of this. But there definitely seems to be a strong undercurrent of Palestinian cosplay among very young Americans.

I am so sorry a few kids waving Palestinian flags and wearing Keffiyehs triggered you so much. Do the 30,000 dead civilian bodies and beheaded babies upset you as well?

Maybe show some compassion and be proud of the fact that Gen Z is speaking up for a population that has historically and consistently been abused by the Israelis. And they definitely are more well informed than you about this conflict.

+1000.

I also love when the pro Israelis mock TikTok as if they didn’t start with TikTok war propaganda and journalism . Gen Z Americans weren’t concerned with Gaza until Gen Z Israeli soldiers started posting.

Apparently they’re not concerned with Syria or Ukraine or elsewhere in the world where genocide is happening. What is it about Israel that sets them off?

How are you defining genocide. Is it death toll alone?

Ukraine has 30,400ish deaths in 2 years.
Syria has 500K in 13 years, so averaging 38,400.

Both of those numbers are nauseating, but divided by time much less than Gaza.

If it's not death toll, can you explain what you believe the differentiator is?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just a trend like the Che shirts or Free Tibet stickers. They’ll move onto something else soon. Does anymore remember the Darfur or Stop Kony from 2012 merchandise kids would wear? You may dislike Sasha Barron Cohen but he was on point in that silly Bruno movie asking when the next Darfur was and calling the Dar five. They want to ride a movement and feel something but ultimately they will abandon it quickly for the next trendy cause.

I love how Israelis believe that ending the slaughter of tens of thousands is just a trendy cause. You guys are disgusting.

Of course it is. Ask the people of Darfur if anyone thinks about them today.

The US is only funding the killing of one people. So, let's begin there, shall we?

You’re missing the point. In a year from now nobody is going to wear watermelon earrings or keffiyeh. It’s a trend. They care on a superficial level. When the next movement comes into play all of these accessories will end up at goodwill.

No, I think you are missing the point you couldn't even bother to address. My Jewish much younger half sister wears a keffiyeh. She's been to marches and written her senators and has consistently posted news articles online. Yet, you'd write her off as "being fashionable" because she likes to dance at concerts. We ignore youth at our own peril. My fellow Dems I'm giving you a side eye if you haven't noticed.

Let me know if she’s still writing letters this time next year.

Do you call her out for cultural appropriation for wearing clothing that is not of her culture? Don't be a hypocrite if you wouldn't do the same for a white person wearing an Indian feather head dress.

And I am willing to bet she is also on the pronoun bandwagon which is finally falling off its wheels.

It is just a trend.

Palestine groups have actively asked for non-Palestinian allies to wear the keffiyeh to show support. If you followed any of these activities online, you'd know that. It was to protect those Palestinians who speak out so that they are not easily abused by Israel supporters. Safety in numbers is the idea. So no, not cultural appropriate at all. I think most of us who follow human rights activitists know this.

The far left will love this. What better way to virtue signal your love of the oppression pyramid than playing dress-up.

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OP what is MDW? If you are “on MDW” is that like Molly?

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Anonymous wrote:OP what is MDW? If you are “on MDW” is that like Molly?

Hint: a significant US holiday took place last weekend.

Not surprised that posters here wouldn’t know that. Not surprised at all.

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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is cosplay and a trend. Just see all the interviews of them being asked what river and what sea or anything basic about the conflict.

Cosplay and a trend? Okay. You’ve definitely got your finger on the pulse.

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Ok right so you’re saying Israel did absolutely nothing before Oct 7th? Didn’t “accidentally” kill children playing on a beach, didn’t detain children for throwing rocks in a military prison, didn’t poison their soil and ruin their agriculture, didn’t keep them under blockade, didn’t destroy their airport, didn’t steal their land in the West Bank, don’t tell them which roads they can and can not drive on? Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just a trend like the Che shirts or Free Tibet stickers. They’ll move onto something else soon. Does anymore remember the Darfur or Stop Kony from 2012 merchandise kids would wear? You may dislike Sasha Barron Cohen but he was on point in that silly Bruno movie asking when the next Darfur was and calling the Dar five. They want to ride a movement and feel something but ultimately they will abandon it quickly for the next trendy cause.

I love how Israelis believe that ending the slaughter of tens of thousands is just a trendy cause. You guys are disgusting.

Of course it is. Ask the people of Darfur if anyone thinks about them today.

The US is only funding the killing of one people. So, let's begin there, shall we?

You’re missing the point. In a year from now nobody is going to wear watermelon earrings or keffiyeh. It’s a trend. They care on a superficial level. When the next movement comes into play all of these accessories will end up at goodwill.

No, I think you are missing the point you couldn't even bother to address. My Jewish much younger half sister wears a keffiyeh. She's been to marches and written her senators and has consistently posted news articles online. Yet, you'd write her off as "being fashionable" because she likes to dance at concerts. We ignore youth at our own peril. My fellow Dems I'm giving you a side eye if you haven't noticed.

Let me know if she’s still writing letters this time next year.

Do you call her out for cultural appropriation for wearing clothing that is not of her culture? Don't be a hypocrite if you wouldn't do the same for a white person wearing an Indian feather head dress.

And I am willing to bet she is also on the pronoun bandwagon which is finally falling off its wheels.

It is just a trend.

Palestine groups have actively asked for non-Palestinian allies to wear the keffiyeh to show support. If you followed any of these activities online, you'd know that. It was to protect those Palestinians who speak out so that they are not easily abused by Israel supporters. Safety in numbers is the idea. So no, not cultural appropriate at all. I think most of us who follow human rights activitists know this.

Why on earth would I follow, let alone be sympathetic, to a terror organization? Hamas attacked Israel, they started the war. There are no take-backs with what happened on October 7th.

And it is 100% hypocritical to say it is ok to appropriate one culture if the "correct" people are doing it. Like the idiot Pelosi wearing kente cloth was ok, but if any a regular white person donned it, you would drag them through the mud.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to a music festival this past weekend in the U.S. and it was striking - tons of Gen Z kids wearing keffiyahs and waving Palestinian flags. In fact, I didn't see a single US flag being waved at the event except on official flagpoles (the festival was held on government-owned property).

There were people of all age ranges at this festival and it was striking. Only the Gen Z kids were wearing this stuff and carrying these flags. In fact, it almost seems like a fashion trend - white girls wearing watermelon earrings, wearing keffiyahs & free Gaza tshirts. It was utterly bizarre to see young kids decked out in pro-Palestine clothing and then dancing to music.

I know the bombing this past weekend was horrific. But it all seemed extremely performative.

To be clear - the vast majority of attendees at the music festival were not doing any of this. But there definitely seems to be a strong undercurrent of Palestinian cosplay among very young Americans.

I am so sorry a few kids waving Palestinian flags and wearing Keffiyehs triggered you so much. Do the 30,000 dead civilian bodies and beheaded babies upset you as well?

Maybe show some compassion and be proud of the fact that Gen Z is speaking up for a population that has historically and consistently been abused by the Israelis. And they definitely are more well informed than you about this conflict.

+1000.

I also love when the pro Israelis mock TikTok as if they didn’t start with TikTok war propaganda and journalism . Gen Z Americans weren’t concerned with Gaza until Gen Z Israeli soldiers started posting.

Apparently they’re not concerned with Syria or Ukraine or elsewhere in the world where genocide is happening. What is it about Israel that sets them off?

How are you defining genocide. Is it death toll alone?

Ukraine has 30,400ish deaths in 2 years.
Syria has 500K in 13 years, so averaging 38,400.

Both of those numbers are nauseating, but divided by time much less than Gaza.

If it's not death toll, can you explain what you believe the differentiator is?

Russia has been actively trying to eradicate Ukrainian culture for a long time now. To erase Ukrainian history, ban Ukrainian culture, pretend that Ukrainians are not a separate group of people with their own culture, but simply other Russians. And now they're trying to kill them as well, if they're not kidnapping the children to raise as Russian.

That all comes under the rubric of genocide to me.

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Anonymous wrote:People see injustice and react to it. What else is new?

+1. Good for the kids. I'm amazed at how much more well informed this generation is than we were.
Proud of the kids for standing up for human rights - even if their parents are disgusted that they can believe in the freedom from oppression for **gulp** brown people. The horror.

Israeli people aren’t “brown” people? Quite a number of them are. They are pretty diverse and don’t execute or lock up people who look different.

I guess these kids are ok with the way Palestinians execute gays and are racist? Or they had slavery until the 1930s?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Palestine

As opposed to Israel killing 15,000 children? Now if the only thing that matters is treatment of gays Israel is not a friendly place. Israel is a religious fundamentalist country and those in government by their own words want to kill gays.

+1
There were a lot of LGBT+ among the 40,000 Palestinians slaughtered by Israel. Israel didn't take special considerations to spare them.

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Anonymous wrote:OP what is MDW? If you are “on MDW” is that like Molly?

Come on
Memorial day weekend. Use your head for something besides a hat rack!

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Anonymous wrote:It definitely is cosplay and a trend. Just see all the interviews of them being asked what river and what sea or anything basic about the conflict.

I am guessing this was not a Country music festival.

No. Then you’d see treasonous confederate flags.

Your a moron.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think that’s bad, you should have seen the number of Israeli flags and Star of David lapel pins I saw at the last GOP convention.

This x100000. Get Israel out of our politics.
If you want to waive your Israeli flag at a music festival, be my guest. But Israeli lobbying money in Congress should have everyone up in arms.

Many people see the Israeli flag in the same light as confederate or Nazi flags.

No one has ever said that. Your lying.

[Anonymous]

Good. We need a two state solution to stop the idiots from murdering each other. Man the border with UN troops. Recognize the State of Palestine!

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Anonymous wrote:Good. We need a two state solution to stop the idiots from murdering each other. Man the border with UN troops. Recognize the State of Palestine!

Gazans had the opportunity to run their own territory and they decided to elect terrorists. That's historical fact. Also historical fact, Palestinians have legitimate reasons to want revenge. Tragically, there is no solution.