Went to music festival on MDW and saw more Palestinian flags than US flags

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If you think that’s bad, you should have seen the number of Israeli flags and Star of David lapel pins I saw at the last GOP convention.


This x100000. Get Israel out of our politics.
If you want to waive your Israeli flag at a music festival, be my guest. But Israeli lobbying money in Congress should have everyone up in arms.


Many people see the Israeli flag in the same light as confederate or Nazi flags.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you think that’s bad, you should have seen the number of Israeli flags and Star of David lapel pins I saw at the last GOP convention.


This x100000. Get Israel out of our politics.
If you want to waive your Israeli flag at a music festival, be my guest. But Israeli lobbying money in Congress should have everyone up in arms.


Many people see the Israeli flag in the same light as confederate or Nazi flags.


"Many people" are idiots. It's not the same, in spite of their foolish feelings and emotions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:People see injustice and react to it. What else is new?


Hoping they also react to the injustice regarding women's rights and LGBTQ rights in these areas. I say this as someone who thinks there should be a ceasefire for humanitarian reasons and condemn the brutal assault on the innocent. But let's not get romantic about the Palestinian Authority and their retrograde beliefs toward women and the LGBTQ community.

I also condemn similar retrograde attitudes among the extreme far right in Israel who luckily have not (yet) been able to implement their own bigoted restrictions country wide, except for the prohibition against women at the Wailing Wall.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-ea...-palestine-state-of/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I went to a music festival this past weekend in the U.S. and it was striking - tons of Gen Z kids wearing keffiyahs and waving Palestinian flags. In fact, I didn't see a single US flag being waved at the event except on official flagpoles (the festival was held on government-owned property).

There were people of all age ranges at this festival and it was striking. Only the Gen Z kids were wearing this stuff and carrying these flags. In fact, it almost seems like a fashion trend - white girls wearing watermelon earrings, wearing keffiyahs & free Gaza tshirts. It was utterly bizarre to see young kids decked out in pro-Palestine clothing and then dancing to music.

I know the bombing this past weekend was horrific. But it all seemed extremely performative.

To be clear - the vast majority of attendees at the music festival were not doing any of this. But there definitely seems to be a strong undercurrent of Palestinian cosplay among very young Americans.


Yeah, you're going to have to name the music festival.

I wouldn't expect to see any flags at a music festival unless one of the performers was from a different country and the fans were expressing support for the performer that way. It sounds like you ran into that kind of situation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you think that’s bad, you should have seen the number of Israeli flags and Star of David lapel pins I saw at the last GOP convention.


This x100000. Get Israel out of our politics.
If you want to waive your Israeli flag at a music festival, be my guest. But Israeli lobbying money in Congress should have everyone up in arms.


Many people see the Israeli flag in the same light as confederate or Nazi flags.


Almost no one views the Israeli flag in this light.

Check the polls, specifically re: what % of the population is generally supportive of Israel.

TLDR? You're making things up.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did you see that the Gaza Health Ministry decreased dramatically the number of children killed or are you only following this story some times? They dialed their numbers WAY back. It was shocking actually. Got very little coverage of course. Children have still been killed, which is a brutal and awful tragedy, but they had clearly been throwing out random numbers the whole time that everyone is gobbling up. Does make one pause.


NP. I haven't seen this. Can you post more information?
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Anonymous wrote:It’s just a trend like the Che shirts or Free Tibet stickers. They’ll move onto something else soon. Does anymore remember the Darfur or Stop Kony from 2012 merchandise kids would wear? You may dislike Sasha Barron Cohen but he was on point in that silly Bruno movie asking when the next Darfur was and calling the Dar five. They want to ride a movement and feel something but ultimately they will abandon it quickly for the next trendy cause.


I love how Israelis believe that ending the slaughter of tens of thousands is just a trendy cause. You guys are disgusting.

Of course it is. Ask the people of Darfur if anyone thinks about them today.


The US is only funding the killing of one people. So, let's begin there, shall we?

You’re missing the point. In a year from now nobody is going to wear watermelon earrings or keffiyeh. It’s a trend. They care on a superficial level. When the next movement comes into play all of these accessories will end up at goodwill.


No, I think you are missing the point you couldn't even bother to address. My Jewish much younger half sister wears a keffiyeh. She's been to marches and written her senators and has consistently posted news articles online. Yet, you'd write her off as "being fashionable" because she likes to dance at concerts. We ignore youth at our own peril. My fellow Dems I'm giving you a side eye if you haven't noticed.

Let me know if she’s still writing letters this time next year.


So you're expecting that Israel will still be bombing Palestine next year? You do know there has been awareness about the plight of the Palestinians on college campuses prior to 10/7? This has awakened many people, adults included. If you want college kids waving US flags on memorial day, maybe put forth a candidate they can get excited about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did you see that the Gaza Health Ministry decreased dramatically the number of children killed or are you only following this story some times? They dialed their numbers WAY back. It was shocking actually. Got very little coverage of course. Children have still been killed, which is a brutal and awful tragedy, but they had clearly been throwing out random numbers the whole time that everyone is gobbling up. Does make one pause.


FFS. It was reported in NPR, and you have totally misconstrued the adjustment. The UN lowered it because only 70% of the deaths have been accounted for in Gaza's Health Ministry database. The UN reports that the 35K+ is accurate and that 52% have been women and children. It doesn't include people who are trapped under rubble, or hastily buried by family members. It doesn't include the people dying of malnutrition or famine. It also doesn't include the wounded or the estimated 17,000 children who are orphaned or separated from their parents.

If you can look at any picture of Palestine right now and not feel sorry for the children living there in rubble with extreme trauma, there's no hope for you.

Read it right here, folks: https://www.npr.org/2024/05/15/1251265727/un-...or%20side%20streets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you see that the Gaza Health Ministry decreased dramatically the number of children killed or are you only following this story some times? They dialed their numbers WAY back. It was shocking actually. Got very little coverage of course. Children have still been killed, which is a brutal and awful tragedy, but they had clearly been throwing out random numbers the whole time that everyone is gobbling up. Does make one pause.


FFS. It was reported in NPR, and you have totally misconstrued the adjustment. The UN lowered it because only 70% of the deaths have been accounted for in Gaza's Health Ministry database. The UN reports that the 35K+ is accurate and that 52% have been women and children. It doesn't include people who are trapped under rubble, or hastily buried by family members. It doesn't include the people dying of malnutrition or famine. It also doesn't include the wounded or the estimated 17,000 children who are orphaned or separated from their parents.

If you can look at any picture of Palestine right now and not feel sorry for the children living there in rubble with extreme trauma, there's no hope for you.

Read it right here, folks: https://www.npr.org/2024/05/15/1251265727/un-...or%20side%20streets.


Speaking of misconstruing, the prior poster literally wrote "Children have still been killed, which is a brutal and awful tragedy".

Almost as if you're not arguing in good faith.

Shocking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I went to a music festival this past weekend in the U.S. and it was striking - tons of Gen Z kids wearing keffiyahs and waving Palestinian flags. In fact, I didn't see a single US flag being waved at the event except on official flagpoles (the festival was held on government-owned property).

There were people of all age ranges at this festival and it was striking. Only the Gen Z kids were wearing this stuff and carrying these flags. In fact, it almost seems like a fashion trend - white girls wearing watermelon earrings, wearing keffiyahs & free Gaza tshirts. It was utterly bizarre to see young kids decked out in pro-Palestine clothing and then dancing to music.

I know the bombing this past weekend was horrific. But it all seemed extremely performative.

To be clear - the vast majority of attendees at the music festival were not doing any of this. But there definitely seems to be a strong undercurrent of Palestinian cosplay among very young Americans.


Yeah, you're going to have to name the music festival.

I wouldn't expect to see any flags at a music festival unless one of the performers was from a different country and the fans were expressing support for the performer that way. It sounds like you ran into that kind of situation.


Have you been living under a rock for the past decade? Yes, tons of flags at music festivals.

This is from Ultra Music Festival 2013:

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you see that the Gaza Health Ministry decreased dramatically the number of children killed or are you only following this story some times? They dialed their numbers WAY back. It was shocking actually. Got very little coverage of course. Children have still been killed, which is a brutal and awful tragedy, but they had clearly been throwing out random numbers the whole time that everyone is gobbling up. Does make one pause.


FFS. It was reported in NPR, and you have totally misconstrued the adjustment. The UN lowered it because only 70% of the deaths have been accounted for in Gaza's Health Ministry database. The UN reports that the 35K+ is accurate and that 52% have been women and children. It doesn't include people who are trapped under rubble, or hastily buried by family members. It doesn't include the people dying of malnutrition or famine. It also doesn't include the wounded or the estimated 17,000 children who are orphaned or separated from their parents.

If you can look at any picture of Palestine right now and not feel sorry for the children living there in rubble with extreme trauma, there's no hope for you.

Read it right here, folks: https://www.npr.org/2024/05/15/1251265727/un-...or%20side%20streets.


Speaking of misconstruing, the prior poster literally wrote "Children have still been killed, which is a brutal and awful tragedy".

Almost as if you're not arguing in good faith.

Shocking.


She said it was shocking and not posted in mainstream media. I don't find the news shocking. They are inundated and the UN wants exact numbers.

Isn't the shocking things that 35+ people have died, 52% of them women and children???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I went to a music festival this past weekend in the U.S. and it was striking - tons of Gen Z kids wearing keffiyahs and waving Palestinian flags. In fact, I didn't see a single US flag being waved at the event except on official flagpoles (the festival was held on government-owned property).

There were people of all age ranges at this festival and it was striking. Only the Gen Z kids were wearing this stuff and carrying these flags. In fact, it almost seems like a fashion trend - white girls wearing watermelon earrings, wearing keffiyahs & free Gaza tshirts. It was utterly bizarre to see young kids decked out in pro-Palestine clothing and then dancing to music.

I know the bombing this past weekend was horrific. But it all seemed extremely performative.

To be clear - the vast majority of attendees at the music festival were not doing any of this. But there definitely seems to be a strong undercurrent of Palestinian cosplay among very young Americans.


The struggle of the Palestinian people is the struggle of ordinary humans against tyrants in power that monopolize resources, crush basic human rights and unleash savage violence on their families and children. It resonates with people around the world because it is inherently human.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did you see that the Gaza Health Ministry decreased dramatically the number of children killed or are you only following this story some times? They dialed their numbers WAY back. It was shocking actually. Got very little coverage of course. Children have still been killed, which is a brutal and awful tragedy, but they had clearly been throwing out random numbers the whole time that everyone is gobbling up. Does make one pause.


FFS. It was reported in NPR, and you have totally misconstrued the adjustment. The UN lowered it because only 70% of the deaths have been accounted for in Gaza's Health Ministry database. The UN reports that the 35K+ is accurate and that 52% have been women and children. It doesn't include people who are trapped under rubble, or hastily buried by family members. It doesn't include the people dying of malnutrition or famine. It also doesn't include the wounded or the estimated 17,000 children who are orphaned or separated from their parents.

If you can look at any picture of Palestine right now and not feel sorry for the children living there in rubble with extreme trauma, there's no hope for you.

Read it right here, folks: https://www.npr.org/2024/05/15/1251265727/un-...or%20side%20streets.


Speaking of misconstruing, the prior poster literally wrote "Children have still been killed, which is a brutal and awful tragedy".

Almost as if you're not arguing in good faith.

Shocking.


She said it was shocking and not posted in mainstream media. I don't find the news shocking. They are inundated and the UN wants exact numbers.

Isn't the shocking things that 35+ people have died, 52% of them women and children???


Shocking that people have died in a war? No, not shocking.

Obviously they shouldn't have started the war. And they shouldn't continue it. But they are doing both. They don't want peace. They aren't like you, who do want peace.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you think that’s bad, you should have seen the number of Israeli flags and Star of David lapel pins I saw at the last GOP convention.


This x100000. Get Israel out of our politics.
If you want to waive your Israeli flag at a music festival, be my guest. But Israeli lobbying money in Congress should have everyone up in arms.


Many people see the Israeli flag in the same light as confederate or Nazi flags.


Almost no one views the Israeli flag in this light.

Check the polls, specifically re: what % of the population is generally supportive of Israel.

TLDR? You're making things up.



I do!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I went to a music festival this past weekend in the U.S. and it was striking - tons of Gen Z kids wearing keffiyahs and waving Palestinian flags. In fact, I didn't see a single US flag being waved at the event except on official flagpoles (the festival was held on government-owned property).

There were people of all age ranges at this festival and it was striking. Only the Gen Z kids were wearing this stuff and carrying these flags. In fact, it almost seems like a fashion trend - white girls wearing watermelon earrings, wearing keffiyahs & free Gaza tshirts. It was utterly bizarre to see young kids decked out in pro-Palestine clothing and then dancing to music.

I know the bombing this past weekend was horrific. But it all seemed extremely performative.

To be clear - the vast majority of attendees at the music festival were not doing any of this. But there definitely seems to be a strong undercurrent of Palestinian cosplay among very young Americans.

Pictures?
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