Is the future of higher ed in the South?

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Anonymous wrote:Quality of life at places like Auburn, Alabama, and George is insane. Gorgeous weather, gorgeous people.

Not sure if you actually grew up in the south or not but I don't know if you'd describe Alabama or Georgia as "gorgeous". Morbid obesity is a huge problem across the South.
Sure, there are some good looking people but you could go to CA or CO for more physically fit people.

I meant the Universities dipsh*t. What, I have to literally spell that out for you?

Um, moron, I did go to school in the south. I know precisely what I'm talking about. And no, the entire student populations are not "gorgeous". You may be confusing a singular sorority with the entire school population.

My original comment stands. I think the student population at Boulder is likely in better shape than Bama or UGA

You think Boulder potheads are in good shape?

Weird comment. Yes, CO smokes a lot of weed. But so do students at UF, Texas, UGA, Bama, and other schools. And they drink a ton. They also do copious amounts of drugs. So I'd say that Austin and Boulder are on par with the drug taking - having spent time in both.

But yes, in general, the CO weed-smoking drinkers were fitter than the ATX weed-smoking drinkers due to the fact that the CO kids were always out hiking, boarding, biking, snowshoeing and doing perpetual mountain stuff that is sorely lacking in other parts of the country. I will definitely give points to Colorado kids for that. I wish we had a culture of fitness in the south. Sadly, we do not.

The football coach at CO complained about the smell of pot in the stadium. That is not happening anywhere else. Gross.

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

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I wish this were true so it would be easier to get into the colleges in the northeast.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

They will never be considered top schools….its impossible to displace the wealth of the top privates (which include Duke and Vandy) or even the research and reach of the UC schools and Big 10 schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

Which schools do you think will be considered "TOP"?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

Which schools do you think will be considered "TOP"?

We have a thread for this: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1200283.page

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is known worldwide for its excellent education. The Athens of America.

There are lots of very good schools in the South - Duke, Vanderbilt, Rice, Emory, Georgia Tech, UNC Chapel Hill, UVA, Texas-Austin, Wake Forest, Florida. And while the region might be red, most of the good schools are located in very blue communities. Not everyone that goes to school in the South is there for shallow reasons. Many view the good schools down south as far preferable to the grim, humorless, ideologically-rigid selective schools in New England.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

They will never be considered top schools….its impossible to displace the wealth of the top privates (which include Duke and Vandy) or even the research and reach of the UC schools and Big 10 schools.

Wealth doesn’t matter if kids go to school at other places. None of the kids going south care about Big 10 research.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

Just wait until next budget cut waves arrive in the South. Social services and education are first to be cut.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the South is the future of higher education in the US. Lot of great schools, that offer a better value for the education dollar.

I think it's bananas to send your kids to an out of state public university (and pay OOS tuition) to a school that is just ok. The honest answer here is to send your kids to an in-state public school in your jurisdiction. THAT is the future of higher ed....if we're smart.

Those schools are cheaper now and in a few years will be considered TOP.

They will never be considered top schools….its impossible to displace the wealth of the top privates (which include Duke and Vandy) or even the research and reach of the UC schools and Big 10 schools.

Wealth doesn’t matter if kids go to school at other places. None of the kids going south care about Big 10 research.

Well, I thought these would be top schools.

But again…when schools like Yale still get as many applications as Alabama…seems like plenty of kids are staying up North.

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Anonymous wrote:The article is of course a decent amount of clickbait. The actual stats they quote don’t show any kind of massive shift…it’s honestly fairly lite on stats in general.

Post your specific stats.

Well, it says applications to certain private universities in the south increased by 42% vs about 28% in the North. Great, but Tulane with 34,000 applications for 1800 slots is still well below say Yale with 55,000 applications for 1350 slots or any number of northern private schools.

They say public schools had a 62% increase, yet again, no mention of the base from which they are growing. So University of Alabama had 55,000 applications this past year for 8,000 slots (BTW, they need to accept
Close to 40,000 to yield 8,000) but that’s almost 50% less than Penn State at 106,000 applications…and the same as Yale which is 1/8 the size.

Also, neither Yale or Penn State saw a decline in applications…but it’s hard to achieve high growth rates from very high starting points.

Penn State posts stats for their entire system, Alabama does not. Try again.

Ok…how about 150,000 applications for UCLA…or 56,000 to UMD college park for 4500 slots.

If Alabama is such a hot school…shouldn’t it have more applications than UMD or Yale?

Look at Tennessee’s applications this year and compare to five years ago. Try to find a northern public that statically increased more.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it is. All of the detractors and hyperbolic repro warriors can keep their crappy weather and moral superiority BS up north... you're not needed or wanted.

Bet. See you never.