Israel bombs Iran - targeting Isfahan

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sad. Isfahan is a beautiful city. Luckily the city center is okay, but wtf, Bibi.

I hate to see where this goes if we don’t stand up to Israel.

Oh no. Iran might finally be free of their tyrannical government and the Iranian people can finally be free.

Have you not learned from Iraq and Afghanistan? What about ISIS and the Taliban is freeing? War only helps terrorism increase. When people lose their homes, their families, their livelihoods in an instant and school is interrupted or non existent due to war, what will these boys/men do? Who will they turn to ?

Are you suggesting one day they’ll just come to their senses? The reality is nothing will change without it and there is a possibility it could go the wrong way. I believe the Iranian people are ready unlike those in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I think you need your head examined. We barely have democracy here. Our lawmakers have been in office for 40+ years no term limits . Many were there before the Iranian Revolution/new government there.

Why can’t we leave well enough alone? Iran isn’t no dump. It’s a developed country . Why destroy it? If they want regime change, let them do it. It’s not our place or job to do it for them. We have our own problems.

How many wars will it take for us to learn? Our democracy is not something people aspire to and neither are our freedoms so just let it be

A "developed country" that executes people for protesting, religious heresy, and homosexuality. I don't necessarily think it is beneficial for the US to intervene in the affairs of other countries (in most circumstances), but people that defend Iran are conveniently ignoring it's many shortcomings. It's insane to me that many of the people protesting in support of these countries (mainly Palestine and Iran) are conveniently ignoring the fact that their lifestyle would be punishable by death in those places.

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Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

What does this even mean? Sure, Israel can evade Iran's air defenses and bomb some strategic targets there. But Israel has no ability to "destroy" Iran.

Israel can’t even destroy Hamas or Hezbollah let alone Iran. They want us to destroy Iran.

Well let’s see, Iran is the only country where the destruction of the state of Israel is literally in their constitution and a stated goal of their government … despite that, the country/government that would be the happiest if the US “destroyed” Iran is not Israel but Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia and Israel should join forces and attack Iran.

Population of Saudi 36 million, population of Israel 9 million( only 7 million allowed to in the military) vs Iran 88 million. Israel and Saudi fought a 10 year war in Yemen and lost. The Saudi suck as fighters, the Israeli can not draft enough citizens to fill its military(60k) and almost a 1/3 of Israelis are exempt from the draft. The exempt ultra orthodox say they will leave the country before fighting for Israel. I really think many non orthodox israelis at this point would refuse to be drafted to fight Iran. So yeah sounds like a great plan.

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Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

What does this even mean? Sure, Israel can evade Iran's air defenses and bomb some strategic targets there. But Israel has no ability to "destroy" Iran.

Israel can’t even destroy Hamas or Hezbollah let alone Iran. They want us to destroy Iran.

Well let’s see, Iran is the only country where the destruction of the state of Israel is literally in their constitution and a stated goal of their government … despite that, the country/government that would be the happiest if the US “destroyed” Iran is not Israel but Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia and Israel should join forces and attack Iran.

Why are you such a warmonger?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sad. Isfahan is a beautiful city. Luckily the city center is okay, but wtf, Bibi.

I hate to see where this goes if we don’t stand up to Israel.

Oh no. Iran might finally be free of their tyrannical government and the Iranian people can finally be free.

Have you not learned from Iraq and Afghanistan? What about ISIS and the Taliban is freeing? War only helps terrorism increase. When people lose their homes, their families, their livelihoods in an instant and school is interrupted or non existent due to war, what will these boys/men do? Who will they turn to ?

Are you suggesting one day they’ll just come to their senses? The reality is nothing will change without it and there is a possibility it could go the wrong way. I believe the Iranian people are ready unlike those in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I think you need your head examined. We barely have democracy here. Our lawmakers have been in office for 40+ years no term limits . Many were there before the Iranian Revolution/new government there.

Why can’t we leave well enough alone? Iran isn’t no dump. It’s a developed country . Why destroy it? If they want regime change, let them do it. It’s not our place or job to do it for them. We have our own problems.

How many wars will it take for us to learn? Our democracy is not something people aspire to and neither are our freedoms so just let it be

A "developed country" that executes people for protesting, religious heresy, and homosexuality. I don't necessarily think it is beneficial for the US to intervene in the affairs of other countries (in most circumstances), but people that defend Iran are conveniently ignoring it's many shortcomings. It's insane to me that many of the people protesting in support of these countries (mainly Palestine and Iran) are conveniently ignoring the fact that their lifestyle would be punishable by death in those places.

Russia and China do the same thing. Are we supposed to fight them as well? Give it up with the democracy fetishising and leave these countries alone.

Democracy can’t be spread through the barrel of a gun. Our country and soldiers have suffered enough.

If the Jews want war, let them send Jewish American kids only to fight Iran and spread democracy

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Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

What does this even mean? Sure, Israel can evade Iran's air defenses and bomb some strategic targets there. But Israel has no ability to "destroy" Iran.

Israel can’t even destroy Hamas or Hezbollah let alone Iran. They want us to destroy Iran.

Well let’s see, Iran is the only country where the destruction of the state of Israel is literally in their constitution and a stated goal of their government … despite that, the country/government that would be the happiest if the US “destroyed” Iran is not Israel but Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia and Israel should join forces and attack Iran.

Population of Saudi 36 million, population of Israel 9 million( only 7 million allowed to in the military) vs Iran 88 million. Israel and Saudi fought a 10 year war in Yemen and lost. The Saudi suck as fighters, the Israeli can not draft enough citizens to fill its military(60k) and almost a 1/3 of Israelis are exempt from the draft. The exempt ultra orthodox say they will leave the country before fighting for Israel. I really think many non orthodox israelis at this point would refuse to be drafted to fight Iran. So yeah sounds like a great plan.

A saudi and Israeli war would be excellent for Iran. Two countries that can’t fight. Israel can’t control a dirt poor patch of sand called Gaza and Saudi Arabia couldn’t control another dirt poor patch of sand called Yemen because wealth and fancy schamncy american technology doesn’t win war .

The home turf advantage is real. Usually the ones on their own turf win. Israel should know this from the 48 war they did in self defense . When people are fighting to exist on their homeland, it’s different morale than fighting because of politics and because you were sent there to a foreign land .

America didn’t learn this from Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan so i guess we won’t ever learn.

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Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Perhaps Israel shouldn’t have gotten Trump to blow up the Iran nuclear deal then.

The Iran nuclear deal was a joke. We all know that.

It wasn’t a joke. Netanyahu kept claiming a nuclear Iran would be an existential threat to Israel so Obama found a non violent way to get Iran to stop production in favor of cash.

Stopping one bad option with another bad option perhaps but why should Iran be shamed for funding their proxies? If they lose the ability to produce nuclear a, they need a safety for deterrence and portraying dominance with their satellite groups in their nemesis’ (Saudi and Israel’s) backyard (Houthis , Hezbollah ) is their antidote to no longer having nuclear capability .

Personally , I think they’ve been freaked out since Bush’s Axis of Evil speech and I don’t blame them. You know, you really shouldn’t let someone know they’re next on the list

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Anonymous wrote:Israel should stand on their own. They made their own bed and can now lie in it. No U.S. involvement, period. I’m sick and tired of dumping trillions into a s hole region no one in this country even cares about while our people don’t have healthcare, childcare, long term care and infrastructure is falling apart.

But you support aid for Ukraine, right?

Nope.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel should stand on their own. They made their own bed and can now lie in it. No U.S. involvement, period. I’m sick and tired of dumping trillions into a s hole region no one in this country even cares about while our people don’t have healthcare, childcare, long term care and infrastructure is falling apart.

At least the Israelis have a chance at winning.

Winning what exactly?

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Anonymous wrote:War changes a public.

It automatically causes a hard reset to conservatism and wanting war/revenge. Look at us after 9/11.

That’s a normal reaction to an attack. So should we just keep attacking the entire region just because Israel says we should?

Let them fight their own battles there. They don’t help us with our 2 wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why should we help them?

How about it’s your only ally in a place of hatred and extremism towards America.

Ever asked yourself why they hate the US? And no, it’s not because “they hate our freedom”

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Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

What does this even mean? Sure, Israel can evade Iran's air defenses and bomb some strategic targets there. But Israel has no ability to "destroy" Iran.

Israel can’t even destroy Hamas or Hezbollah let alone Iran. They want us to destroy Iran.

Well let’s see, Iran is the only country where the destruction of the state of Israel is literally in their constitution and a stated goal of their government … despite that, the country/government that would be the happiest if the US “destroyed” Iran is not Israel but Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia and Israel should join forces and attack Iran.

Population of Saudi 36 million, population of Israel 9 million( only 7 million allowed to in the military) vs Iran 88 million. Israel and Saudi fought a 10 year war in Yemen and lost. The Saudi suck as fighters, the Israeli can not draft enough citizens to fill its military(60k) and almost a 1/3 of Israelis are exempt from the draft. The exempt ultra orthodox say they will leave the country before fighting for Israel. I really think many non orthodox israelis at this point would refuse to be drafted to fight Iran. So yeah sounds like a great plan.

They will come to the us on a visa and overstay.

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Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

Somewhat superior, yes, when they aren't going on strike. What's your point? Israel cannot defeat Iran and isn't trying to.

It's not clear what you mean by "defeat Iran." But Israel has superior military technology and readiness compared to Iran and in a direct conflict, Israel would have a clear advantage. Given that Israel is being isolated and cornered, the only responsible thing for the Israeli government to do is strike hard at Iran. Iran just launched 350 missiles within Israel, after funding an operation to murder and kidnap thousands of Israelis. The government would be derelict of duty to "show restraint."

Except you’re ignoring the fact that Israel is brutally occupying another people’s land. This has been going on for decades (since the creation of Israel in 1948). The people it occupies have been stripped of their land, their livelihoods, their human rights, etc… Israel is an apartheid state. All of this did not start in Oct 7th. If you believe that, then you need to read a history book.

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Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

Somewhat superior, yes, when they aren't going on strike. What's your point? Israel cannot defeat Iran and isn't trying to.

It's not clear what you mean by "defeat Iran." But Israel has superior military technology and readiness compared to Iran and in a direct conflict, Israel would have a clear advantage. Given that Israel is being isolated and cornered, the only responsible thing for the Israeli government to do is strike hard at Iran. Iran just launched 350 missiles within Israel, after funding an operation to murder and kidnap thousands of Israelis. The government would be derelict of duty to "show restraint."

Except you’re ignoring the fact that Israel is brutally occupying another people’s land. This has been going on for decades (since the creation of Israel in 1948). The people it occupies have been stripped of their land, their livelihoods, their human rights, etc… Israel is an apartheid state. All of this did not start in Oct 7th. If you believe that, then you need to read a history book.

Not accurate. The settlements and forcible relocation is wrong - but Gaza is not Palestine. There is no country of Palestine.

In 1948, the the people there, the Arabs, were offered two states, a Palestine and an Israel. Israel agreed but the Palestinians did not - so there is only one state and that is Israel. Gaza is not its own country, it is a part of Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:Dissenting view here, but I think the US's lack of support is forcing Israel's hand. They are now going it alone against an existential threat, so they really have no choice but to attempt to destroy their enemy while Israel still has the military upper hand against Israel. If Israel waits around, it just gives Iran more time to refine their weapons, build their nukes, etc.

This is similar to the story that Putin often repeats about when he chased a large rat around the "dvor" courtyard in the housing project he grew up in. He was thrilled to corner the rat and thought he won. Then the rat attacked him and he realized that cornering an enemy can actually put you at greater risk.

As Israel looks to the left and right and sees no allies next to her and an enemy blocking her, she has no choice but to lunge at the enemy. Anyone who expects a different outcome does not understand international politics.

Israel cannot defeat Iran and they aren't trying to. They're trying to defeat Hamas. Whether they can do that or not is a different question.

Israel is by far a superior military force compared to Iran. Iran is funding Hamas and Israel has no illusions about the head of this snake.

What does this even mean? Sure, Israel can evade Iran's air defenses and bomb some strategic targets there. But Israel has no ability to "destroy" Iran.

Israel can’t even destroy Hamas or Hezbollah let alone Iran. They want us to destroy Iran.

Well let’s see, Iran is the only country where the destruction of the state of Israel is literally in their constitution and a stated goal of their government … despite that, the country/government that would be the happiest if the US “destroyed” Iran is not Israel but Saudi Arabia.

So? The US orchestrated the assassination of the freely elected leader of Iran. Why? Because Iran’s newly democratic government wanted British Petroleum to pay royalties. BP paid no royalties because Iran was under UK colonial rule and all resources were owned by the crown. This pushed the population to see the US as evil(and hypocritical). The religious fanatics were the only ones fighting the brutal, oppressive regime we sponsored. So Iran is now a religious state like Israel. Iran sees the creation of Israel as evil because of the treatment of the Palestinians.

A much easier solution is to force the Israelis to give full rights of citizenship, right of return and compensation to the Palestinians vs the endless war to make the region accept Israel’s apartheid state and going genocide against the Palestinians.


There is only one choice and it is the only logical option.

Wow, finally a post by someone who actually knows the history of the region. You hit it on the nail.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if someone came and invaded us to get rid of Congress and the Senate and SC because it wasn’t “Democratic enough” because decades long wealthy bureaucrats /incumbents kept winning all the elections . We would be destabilized .

So why are we invading their governments and getting rid of the steady hand? It makes no sense yet we haven’t learned from the lessons of Iraq and Libya. Leave things alone

Who did the U.S. invade?

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if someone came and invaded us to get rid of Congress and the Senate and SC because it wasn’t “Democratic enough” because decades long wealthy bureaucrats /incumbents kept winning all the elections . We would be destabilized .

So why are we invading their governments and getting rid of the steady hand? It makes no sense yet we haven’t learned from the lessons of Iraq and Libya. Leave things alone

Who did the U.S. invade?

Which country hasn't the US invade?